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In age of flavor of the week coaches. Riley looking more and more like top tier... very happy for him.
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Wouldn't trade him for anyone else that's available or expected to make a change this season, including Herman, etc. We finally have the right guy for our program. He'll prove his worth at NU and will go into the books as one of the best to coach the game.
What exactly is a tier 1 coach? When I think of tier 1 I think Saban, Meyer, Fisher. Not a coach that went 6-7 last year and hasn't played a team of substance this year. But I sure hope I'm wrong and Nebraska wins it all! I'm drinking the kool aid bros!!
I don't have a great feeling about the next couple weeks, but regardless of how this season ultimately turns out, I couldn't be happier with Coach Riley. There's something so genuine about him that it seems almost unparalleled in sports today--I'd send my kid to play for him over any other coach in the country right now. Glad to have him as the face of our program.
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I remember when we beat Saban's Mich State teams in '95/'96 by a huge margin. You think Saban should've just hung it up after that? He got to the right fit at LSU and Bama and he's now seen as the best coach in the country. By the way, Bama offered Riley the job in early 2000's and he declined. Just saying... Riley is and has always been one of the most respected coaches in the country.
Whatever; Bo poisoned the well and that cost us a lot of early games last year; along with some bad luck. Its pretty well documented now; even here, what the coaches had to go through. Bo lost too South Dakota State on Saturday
Someone should make a thread titled
"Where are they now?"
that lists the coaches that posters wanted hired when Pelini was fired (or even BC or FS).
'Flavor of the Week' is correct. When our coaches were fired, so many names were brought up of coaches who were having a great season that year, only to fall back into the depths of coaching mediocrity.
What were the names of some of those coaches that aren't looking so hot now?
Coaches at MSU, TCU, Ark, etc.
Who knows if Riley is the best coach for us in the future, but just because an up-and-coming coach has one great season does not mean they are a great coach or will be a consistent winner.
"Where are they now?"
that lists the coaches that posters wanted hired when Pelini was fired (or even BC or FS).
'Flavor of the Week' is correct. When our coaches were fired, so many names were brought up of coaches who were having a great season that year, only to fall back into the depths of coaching mediocrity.
What were the names of some of those coaches that aren't looking so hot now?
Coaches at MSU, TCU, Ark, etc.
Who knows if Riley is the best coach for us in the future, but just because an up-and-coming coach has one great season does not mean they are a great coach or will be a consistent winner.
It is understandable that our fans started casting a wide net in pondering who our next coach should have been. The possibilities were wide open in many ways so it is human nature to speculate. And it is also a strong temptation to want us to make the so-called "splash" hire by going after the currently talked about up and coming coaches.
But that is why in a different thread I called the Riley hire a genius hire by our AD. He resisted the temptation to make a splash hire with a flavor of the month coach. He knew we could not screw up and endure our fourth straight failed coach. He knew he had to hire a veteran coach.
So he hires the under the radar Mike Riley who was toiling away at a hapless program. That took balls. When I first heard the news, like a lot of Husker fans, my first reaction was "who in the hell is Mike Riley?" I was disappointed. I wanted Scott Frost. But after further examination I realized that Eichhorst had done his homework. This Riley guy was actually one of THE most respected coaches by his peers in the country.
I love coach Riley. I hope our fan base gives him the time he needs to succeed. Bo left him a dumpster fire
What Tier is higher than Tier 1? Because I think that is where Riley is really at.
And? Are you suggesting Saban didn't become a good coach until he got older? Awesome! Riley is poised to do some amazing things then! Great post!
Riley's humbleness and willingness to learn is inspiring. He's also doing a great job at laying the future groundwork for the program. We may not win the next two weeks, but I'm impressed with him in getting the older guys to buy in better this season, and the sacrifices he's made in his own preferences of style for the overall success of the program.
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It doesn't matter what you say. Today it's his age. Tomorrow it's his demeanor. The next it's his clothes. He's not happy until Saban or Carrol walk through the door. We need to PAY THEM! It's the only way, man!
I hear what you are saying, about being in the age of the flavor of the week. Because I really think that is what it is now. There is always such a knee jerk reaction both good and bad about coaches and programs based on week to week results. If you are basing that on win % that probably is not the case. If you are basing that on titles, that is probably not the case. If you are basing that on X & O knowledge, personality and player development I could see that.
Ranking coaches and putting them in tiers is so hard because it is so subjective. I think Riley is well liked and respected, but I don't know yet that he is in that group yet. He could get there, but I truly think that will be decided after his career is done.
I like Riley and he appears to be a good fit at Nebraska. Regardless of result - his teams have played tough, close games. So I think he manages games well. Can he move the needle on recruiting and player development? I think so on recruiting - time will tell. The 4th quarter stuff this season DIRECTLY answers the player development question - at least for learning in games AND strength and conditioning. Why the slow starts this season and offensive funk??? Not sure - I think some of it is clearly the injuries and missed practice time. I still question Banker at times - but hard to argue with the results he is getting in 2016.
I remember when NU played MSU and Saban was their coach. MSU was no world beater. Pete Carroll "failed" as a first time NFL coach pre-USC days and USC fans were not thrilled with his hire. Not many Tom Osbornes happen where they get one job and are very successful at it for an entire career. Experts have known Riley was a fine coach in spite of some of his records. Why else would both Bama and USC try to hire him? He will still be a very good coach even if we have a bumpy next five weeks.
He got better as he got older and shored up his philosophy while refining and sharpening the way he does things. He has had a bunch of his coaches come and go without skipping a beat.
The jury is still out on Riley. People on here can make all the stupid excuses they can for last season's debacle but that was a terrible performance by Riley and staff last year. We should have won a minimum of 10 games. Yeah we beat Michigan St but we also embarrassingly lost to Purdue.
People on here are going ga-ga over this season. It's good to be happy about our start this year but let's not go overboard. In looking at the schedule before the season, there was a decent shot at going to Madison undefeated. Looking at our opponents right now we damn well better be 7-0.
Let's bring home a victory Saturday and that will truly be something to be proud of!
There is something to be said for excuses, and something to be said for explanations. I agree we lost games we had no business losing, and part of that was on coaching. Absolutely.
But to turn a blind eye and say the culture last year was conducive to winning 10 games is also wrong. The culture explains why we struggled so much last year, just as the coaching issues explain the struggles.
At least recognize the culture also played a part in those losses. If the guys had bought in from the start do we lose all those games? Some, probably so. But 7? Not a chance in my opinion.
So it was both coaching and environment that led to the struggles. If you can't admit that then you just simply don't like Riley as a coach. In my opinion.
Listen, I don't give a rat's ass what you think. I think Riley is a good guy but he's gonna have to prove to me that he is going to be a winner. We need to recruit much, much better. People on here don't know what good recruiting is. They think he's doing well. A class ranked 17 or 20 won't get it done here.
Eichorst is giving Riley a lot more resources than the previous regime had. We won't beat Michigan or Ohio St if we don't recruit better. We need more difference makers. Hopefully we can close out recruiting with a bunch of big time players!
What does Riley need to do differently? You are on record that he needs to recruit much better... He has brought in more 4 and 5 star players than any other school in the nation. This place is a must see for recruits across the country. Yes, they need to sign on the dotted line, but what does he need to do better RIGHT NOW? Pay them? There is no early signing period... So how can you be so sure that he is sucking at recruiting?
I know you don't like him as a coach, that he needs to prove to you that he can get it done. Fair enough. But everybody else has recognized, even his haters, that last year was a tough situation to inherit. Except you. 10-1 in his last 11 games. It hasn't been pretty, but the only person who has a better record in his last 11 games in the country is Saban. Saban is 11-0. And if you think Riley at 10-1 in his last 11 games is unimpressive, that's on you.
Add to that the fact that Riley is 10-1 over the last 11 while being forced to utilize the depleted talent pool Pelini left behind.
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HuskerFiend-- ask any coach about star ratings... Star ratings give you an initial indication of a kid's potential but it's not the only factor. Teams need to cover their needs and sometimes the star rating doesn't play into it. Top star recruits typically expect a lot early on in their involvement in a program. Case in point-- LSU, which is almost always top five / top ten in recruiting. Coaches know what they need to move up. I like it that Coach Riley holds out for key guys we need and doesn't just try to fill a class right away. It says a lot about his confidence and true direction.
You don't, that's for certain.
Eichorst gave plenty of opportunities to the previous staff, and Pelini either declined it or sat on his ass. Like he usually did.
Nebraska will not get top 10 classes very often going forward. If it happens it will be the exception and not the rule. If that's what you are wanting, you're out of luck.
The refs hurt us bad in a couple games. Indiana game was a joke; they could tackle our players and still play offense without penalty.
Because it hurts his agenda, that's why.
Culture is extremely important in just about everything in life; especially sports.
Because last year is done… And clearly any issues have been fixed. The peculiar part has to do with some certain posters.
Agree that last year is done. I am only bringing it up due to huskerfiend's blind obsession with Riley's record. Last year's record was impacted by the culture as well as the coaching.
But yes, culture seems to have been fixed this year, pretty clearly.
Blind obsession? Lol. You and your minions will defend anything to do with Riley at all costs. No one can be critical of the savior from big bad meany Bo. Lol
Oh but they're getting the most 4 and 5 star players to visit. If that's the truth then why in hell are we taking commitments from lesser players with no big offers?
Riley isn't getting more resources? Bo asked for help in recruiting and it fell on deaf ears. Who's Billy Devaney then? Eichorst has pumped in the money to help HIS coach. There's nothing wrong with that but they must win or they should all be gone.
Riley gets great help from the analytics department the likes of which no one in the country has. He gets great social media assistance. That's Bo's fault right there about not using social media because that dumb ass didn't see any use for it. But even if he did use it, he wouldn't have gotten the assistance in social media that the current staff enjoys.
Keep making excuses about last year but fail to see Riley tried to fit a round peg in a square hole by passing the ball all over the field. Why did it take him till the Bowl game to run what we should have run the whole year?
He's learned his lesson this year because he couldn't afford to lose again like he did last year. We must have top 10 recruiting classes to fuel his pro offense. He won't win here if he doesn't recruit better.
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I have said again and again he did a poor job coaching, along with the culture playing a part as well. So go ahead and take that off your plate right now. You say I need to work on my reading comprehension? Back at ya.
And it is hilarious that you claim Bo didn't have the support in one breath and then say he wouldn't have used it in the next. so why give Bo the same resources (that you claim he never received) if he's never gonna use them? The reason Mike has these resources is because he asked for them. He gets recruiting. He doesn't yield to anybody. He won't get everybody, but he's laying a foundation that is turning heads...
But you're right. He sucks at recruiting. I don't regret calling you an idiot before, nor do I now.
Glad I got the last post in... but I suspect you got my hopes up for nothing and are gonna still post.
Man you can't read. I never said anything about reading comprehension anywhere. Find it, but since you mention it you can add that. I said Bo didn't use social media. I said he got no help that he asked for in recruiting. You aren't very intelligent are you?
I'm done. You and your minions can continue to bait me but.....
