Completely agree. We have been out coached twice this year at every position by first year coaches. We don’t have a single coach who is earning their salary.
Rhule=Frost.2
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Completely agree. We have been out coached twice this year at every position by first year coaches. We don’t have a single coach who is earning their salary.
You should probably stop. It’s embarrassing you’re saying lack of talent. It’s objectively not true
I disagree. And it's embarrassing that you don't see that there is a talent problem with this team.
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I am totally in favor of giving him a year 3 - see how things play out. If he doesn’t win at least 8 next year, I’d be totally onboard to firing him.
As far as comparisons to Frost. There are similarities in game head scratchers and miscues. But I do believe Rhule works hard and doesn’t spend his time playing video games and skirt chasing Neb coeds.
In the end though - the results have been very similar. We will see if we can get that one more win. If we do go 6-6, I’d still say it’s a failure of a season. Should have won at least 8.
What kind of context do you want on 81 losses in 149 tries? You realize that’s bad right? Like really really bad. You want me to say “well he had two good years in there and then bolted after the good seasons? He preaches sustainability, please show me where he’s had a success that he sustained?
Firing football coaches vs. poor performing employees are two completely different things. 99% of employees don't have a 5-7 year buyout worth millions and millions of of dollars. You have a bad employee you might give them a little severance and tell em to hit the road. It's an apples vs. orange comparison/false equivalent.
Temple, Baylor and Carolina Panthers. There's your context.
I agree, we don't know if he can sustain success. What we do know is that he can turn a college football program around and we know that typically takes him 3 seasons to do so, but we're wanting to fire him after year 2? Doesn't make any sense to me.
I'm not going to guarantee that he'll have success next year at Nebraska, but right now, history tells us he will. We'll find out next year, but hopefully this year we can get another 1-3 wins.
Tell that to c3o. He's the one who brought up employees (negotiating a hire).
I disagree though, the concept is similar enough.
Talent problem is on the sideline & in the booth. Quit making excuses for poor coaching
The it takes him 3 years to turn it around does not excuse what has happened vs Indiana and UCLA this year. He has way too much experience at this point to have his team come out unprepared and uninspired. It’s one thing to go 5-7 again this year but that will mean a 6 game losing skid to finish the year. Time will tell if next season he actually does get things together and they win 8-9 games.
I completely agree and I've never made excuses for the Indiana & UCLA crap show.
The only thing I'm saying is I don't believe Rhule should be fired after this season.
I don’t think he should be fired either, it’s not going to happen after 2 seasons. I do think that those who subscribe to the it takes until the 3rd season set the stage for accepting failures this year, it didn’t have to be like this.
Rhule just looks lost most of the time during games. He doesn't value time on the clock. At several points during the losing streak you see our offense literally bleed the clock on every down. Then when we need that time at the end of then game we don't have it and panic sets it.
Correct about bleeding the clock, it gives the other team's side line time to signal/call out all their defensive pre snap adjustments( example "Hey Barney is in, watch the reverse") ....meanwhile when we are on defense a few time this season we got caught looking for the defense play calls and the other team snapped it and run a successful play....
Have I? Tell me how the product on the field in the first two years of Rhule is any different from the first two years of Frost? Tell me how much better this coaching staff is from Frost’s? Tell me how you can see real improvement in year 2 under Rhule that shows he is better than Frost.
Rhule is good at talking. But not much else
Really? Indiana is loaded with talent? No. But they’re all on the same page, they know what they’re doing and they execute well. They know exactly who they are. I’ve heard this talent issue going on for 20 years. It’s just a lame excuse to buy more time. Next year will be good. I tell you.! Just wait!
This is where I am locked in. He knows how to build a program and the culture. I don’t think he’s a particularly good gameday coach. He certainly has questionable hiring blindspots. I think that’s indisputable
You haven’t. Looking ahead to 2025, the schedule screams 4-8 or 5-7. I don’t have the same optimism I did a few months ago that things are turning around. A year ago, we were “a QB away” from 9 wins. I’m embarrassed that I even talked myself into believing that. There are just so many poorly coached positions, that it can’t all fall on the QB.
Yeah just fix turnover and qb problem and we’ll be great. Whoops. Satt is doing well in giveaways (for him) and we still suck
The leaky line also extends to perimeter blocking with wr and TE. We are so easy to defend since we can run any type of screen game to offset the pass rush. Failures in every aspect of the offense. Everybit bit of the offense needs blown up. Utter incompetence
this is why I think we should start promoting from within.. you get to chop off the head, without creating a massive expensive future contract, while still keeping a sense of order of things. Then if the guy you promoted on the cheap produces results, you reward him then.
I'm not firm on this yet but my assessment at this point is not good.
Getting to a bowl this year is critical. Probably won't happen.
Needs to revamp his staff with experienced winners. Probably won't happen.
I'm personally going to give him this off-season and 4-6 games next year before I go final with my assessment that he should be fired.
Getting to a bowl this year is critical. Probably won't happen.
Needs to revamp his staff with experienced winners. Probably won't happen.
I'm personally going to give him this off-season and 4-6 games next year before I go final with my assessment that he should be fired.
I'm no coach but I would imagine some hot routes or a quick slant would help with pressure. I think we gave up on the screen game for ucla. It sucked vs osu but was close to getting some big plays and osu defense has some guys. Satt is just bad at his job. Only time he did well was when he got all the plays for TN and Clemson from stallions.
