Good analogy.
I agree that coaching has been subpar, and even downright atrocious. In year one I gave a pass. In year two, I thought it still could have been a learning curve issue. Not this year.
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I agree that coaching has been subpar, and even downright atrocious. In year one I gave a pass. In year two, I thought it still could have been a learning curve issue. Not this year.
I am pretty sure timnsun and I are pretty much on the exact same page. It's time to s*it or get off the pot. I like Riley, but no more excuses....especially the way this season has started. Time to see some results or move on....
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If he gets to 8 wins, he will have earned another year. Anything less and we need to look at moving in a different direction.
So we are to believe that it's only a talent issue? I get why some may have completely washed the NIU game from their memory. It's true we need more talent...but, we also have enough talent to win at the very least 8 games. Certainly better than our projected 5-7 record. But hey, we don't live in "reality."
I'm not saying it is, but people need to lay off a little and let him get a complete roster on here to see what he can do. He's already proven he will make changes and is trying to do what's necessary to get Nebraska back. Once he has his roster it's put up or shut up.
If we have to wait 4+ years for the head coach to get his guys, why is the same privilege not afforded to assistant coaches? We had coaches fired after years 1 and 2.
And you are answer-less as usual. Let me help you with the appropriate answer since you seem to struggle with this. IF, and that still is a big IF, IF he is .500 or under this year there is nothing wrong with firing Mike. Just like there is nothing wrong with firing an associate who isn't getting it done.
I swear that this generation's idea that everyone needs coddled is getting in the way of excellence.
Your first post says insinuates that the assistant coaches should have been afforded 4+ years. Now if your point was to say what you said in the second post, you should have wrote......
If you are going to fire assistant coaches for not getting the job done after 1 or 2 years, then the head coach should be handled similarly.
I expect better from an Ivy Leaguer.
No, what I wrote insinuates that it's stupid to give a guy four years (regardless of him being a head or an assistant coach) if he's made a mess of things in three years. It is a sarcastic take on the fact that some find it fine that firing an assistant coach who doesn't have "the right" players is A-OK, but firing the head coach is a gigantic no-no in years 1-4.
Perhaps I should have written it without the sarcasm and said, "It's stupid to keep a head coach if he isn't getting the job done. Treat him like the other coaches."
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Yes, because Husker Nation would be A-Ok with developing for the future and to hell with the current year. That would have been received just fine.
I'm down for that with a coach that shows promise--- nothing about Riley as a COACH shows promise
I call BS.
You would be fine with it now because you think Frost is the next guy up. Which is fine, just don't feed the line that if the next guy who comes in, not named Frost, would get a year to blow it up and start over. I don't buy it.
Nope- don't care if Frost comes or not-- I want the best Coach. Sorry to tell you this but Riley is just not a good football coach.
I didn't mention Riley so don't try and turn this toward anything other than you saying you would be fine with blowing it up.
I will just say talk is cheap. This fan base has always been and will always be results or bust oriented. No one is going to be satisfied with starting over.
Sooooo.......everyone pretty much agrees that the AD should have been fired because he didn't do his due diligence on hiring the football coach and the results are not acceptable because of his poor decision. In the same breath, these same folks are saying that his hire has not had time to play itself out and may still be successful so we should give him more time.....
Are you opposed to letting the season play out?
I see plenty on here saying let him finish the season and judge him at the end. Is that a bad idea?
I was one who was warning that this was a very inexperienced team and that fan expectations for this season were likely overly ambitious. Vegas, Phil Steele, Connelly, ESPN's model, ect...were all calling for 6-6 or 7-5. I thought we'd be better than that and picked 8-4. I was prepared for some strife this season. Having said that, I don't think there is much of an excuse for how we've started, both in record and the overall performance. I thought we'd start 3-1. Granted, it's just one game off, but we almost went to OT against ASU and lost to NIU.
I think a lot of folks on both sides of the fence have their minds made up already. If we can get to 7-5, I'm going to be in favor of another year. Based on what we've seen thus far, that may be difficult. But they may get some things figured out on offense and make big strides. Plenty of teams get better or worse as the season wears on. And this could potentially be a pretty salty group next year. At the same time, based off of what we've seen so far, it's natural to be thinking contingency plans.
The next several weeks will be very telling. Anything less than 2-2 and 7-5 looks extremely far fetched.
I think a lot of folks on both sides of the fence have their minds made up already. If we can get to 7-5, I'm going to be in favor of another year. Based on what we've seen thus far, that may be difficult. But they may get some things figured out on offense and make big strides. Plenty of teams get better or worse as the season wears on. And this could potentially be a pretty salty group next year. At the same time, based off of what we've seen so far, it's natural to be thinking contingency plans.
The next several weeks will be very telling. Anything less than 2-2 and 7-5 looks extremely far fetched.
I’m 100% with you. Only people with agendas will find away to disagree or call bs on this point. That many returning starters usually means the season before is very young and inexperienced. Which is the case for us this year and top it off we had key injuries right out of the gate which forced us to play one CB who had 1 career start and a was true sophomore and the other two CBs were starting there first careers starts (hell I do not think Eric Lee or Bootle even had any minutes of playing time the season before outside special teams). So there’s that.
Then there’s our QB, Lee hasn’t played a down in almost 2 years and he was coming from a small school and they didn’t play in a power 5 conference, so he’s as good as a true freshman right now, he’s learning on the fly. Plus side is he has some D1 experience.
Simply put, yes we have a terribly young team and if given the chance, I bet Riley and his staff will look light years better next year with all the returning starters. This I do feel is what the fans that want Riley gone are scared of. If he’s allowed to come back with that much experience coming back, he may do great next year and never get fired. So they want him gone this year while his team is young and struggling before he has a chance to have an experienced team that could actually do something. Just my opinion.
Hopefully new AD looks at this and how young and inexperienced we are this year and what Riley has coming back the following year. Bring in new coach, with new system and a new staff, all that experience goes right out the door. And we start all over again. It would take several years to get there system installed and players in place and experienced for us to contend for conf titles and so on. Unless we get a big name coach that runs similar offense and keeps Diaco as DC and a few of Rileys current staff like Donte Williams, Kieth Williams, and Par on Dine. But what’s the chances of that happening?
Sorry so long. There’s just a lot that goes into this. It’s nit as simple “oh Riley sucks” and “we need to fire a coach with an extremely young team who’s in his 3rd season of a rebuild”.
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