Returning Starters ( From Another Board)

[RedMyMind]

"I was looking at the depth chart and my 1st thought was... "I don't know how someone can NOT give Riley one more year to see what he can do."

Offense Returning Starters: 9

I'm almost able to call this 10 as El's back-up Lindsey. Not to mention the return of McQuitty
Unless Lee makes huge strides, we may see POB or most likely Gebbia leading the team.


Defense Returning Starters: 10

If defense can stay as stable as the last 10 quarters have shown.....IF... this is going to be a very tough defense.

I'm getting tired of the "Wait till next year" moniker, but next year looks very interesting."




"That's what happens when there's less than 10 teams in FBS with fewer returning starters than Nebraska had this season (and that was projected before the injury to Chris Jones).

We are as inexperienced as I can remember from a Nebraska team. And as a result, if we weren't rocking the boat hard, we'd have a ton of returning experience (and a very good recruiting class) for next season. But alas, the odds are, that's going to be blown up."

 

[Huskercigar]

This is stupid........if returning starters is so important he should have started more underclassman last year. See how that works.

 

[RedMyMind]

This is stupid........if returning starters is so important he should have started more underclassman last year. See how that works.

It doesn't detract from the fact that we are a very young inexperienced team.

Most of the upperclassmen he did inherit were playing but there was a big class gap in scholarship players, so he was forced to play senior walkons until he could get his guys in there and develop the underclassmen.

It didn't help that the gaps were everywhere.
The QBs
The LBs
The O line
The D line

Pretty important positions.

How many senior starters are playing this year? 3 or 4 (DPE, McNitt,Weber come to mind)
And 2 of those 3 were former walkons

 

[RedMyMind]

This is stupid........if returning starters is so important he should have started more underclassman last year. See how that works.

Yes, because Husker Nation would be A-Ok with developing for the future and to hell with the current year. That would have been received just fine.

 

[Snickerdoodle70]

"I was looking at the depth chart and my 1st thought was... "I don't know how someone can NOT give Riley one more year to see what he can do."

Offense Returning Starters: 9

I'm almost able to call this 10 as El's back-up Lindsey. Not to mention the return of McQuitty
Unless Lee makes huge strides, we may see POB or most likely Gebbia leading the team.


Defense Returning Starters: 10

If defense can stay as stable as the last 10 quarters have shown.....IF... this is going to be a very tough defense.

I'm getting tired of the "Wait till next year" moniker, but next year looks very interesting."




"That's what happens when there's less than 10 teams in FBS with fewer returning starters than Nebraska had this season (and that was projected before the injury to Chris Jones).

We are as inexperienced as I can remember from a Nebraska team. And as a result, if we weren't rocking the boat hard, we'd have a ton of returning experience (and a very good recruiting class) for next season. But alas, the odds are, that's going to be blown up."

Why did he manage to shit the bed with virtually all returning starters in 2015? Took a 9-win team to a 5/6 win team (bowl game). He doesn't need any more time. His record at Nebraska and prior are telling.

 

[Snickerdoodle70]

It doesn't detract from the fact that we are a very young inexperienced team.

You guys have been using that excuse since Riley's first year. Last I checked, cfb players have four years of eligibility - coinciding with their graduate track.

 

[coachDubs]

This is stupid........if returning starters is so important he should have started more underclassman last year

Holy toledo, did you really just post this?

 

[HuskerDana]

I have not advocated for firing MR right now. I think most haven't....and for those that have, well that is just ridiculous to want that. You hand MR the rope. He either pulls himself off of the ledge with it or makes his own noose. He deserves to prove which one of those two possibilities will happen.

Hell, even Scott Frost himself would most likely tell you the same thing.

 

[RedMyMind]

Why did he manage to shit the bed with virtually all returning starters in 2015? Took a 9-win team to a 5/6 win team (bowl game). He doesn't need any more time. His record at Nebraska and prior are telling.

If you don't know the answer to this question by now, there is no helping you.

You guys have been using that excuse since Riley's first year. Last I checked, cfb players have four years of eligibility - coinciding with their graduate track.

Again, having awareness would benefit you greatly. Inherited a roster with very little depth and average talent with an attitude problem. This was compounded with huge recruiting misses and lopsided classes.

 

[huskerbaseball13]

"I was looking at the depth chart and my 1st thought was... "I don't know how someone can NOT give Riley one more year to see what he can do."

Offense Returning Starters: 9

I'm almost able to call this 10 as El's back-up Lindsey. Not to mention the return of McQuitty
Unless Lee makes huge strides, we may see POB or most likely Gebbia leading the team.


Defense Returning Starters: 10

If defense can stay as stable as the last 10 quarters have shown.....IF... this is going to be a very tough defense.

I'm getting tired of the "Wait till next year" moniker, but next year looks very interesting."




"That's what happens when there's less than 10 teams in FBS with fewer returning starters than Nebraska had this season (and that was projected before the injury to Chris Jones).

We are as inexperienced as I can remember from a Nebraska team. And as a result, if we weren't rocking the boat hard, we'd have a ton of returning experience (and a very good recruiting class) for next season. But alas, the odds are, that's going to be blown up."

Regardless of who is returning or how inexperienced we may or may not be...this team has enough talent to win 7-8 games this year. If we do that, sure then give Riley next year. Anything less and his job should be on the line.

 

[HuskerDana]

I have so much as said that my support is behind getting Frost.....if things go further south this season. For crying out loud though, to say that MR doesn't deserve the chance to prove he can turn it around with 3/4's of the season left is ridiculous. And, even though I am not to confident that it happens, I still hope he does. That will be better for the program.

I know that you do not keep a coach around for recruiting, but IF HCMR is able to find a way to get us on the right track this year, some of you that are snubbing your nose at MR in regards to recruiting have no idea what is in store. NU has maybe one of the best recruiters in quite some time on their roster right now. I am not going any further with this, but if NU is headed in the right direction come Wisconsin game time, MR may be able to make many of us eat our words. GBR.

 

[mwulf]

Have you seen next years schedule...specifically the away schedule ...its gonna be ugly regardless of the roster

 

[HuskerDana]

Have you seen next years schedule...specifically the away schedule ...its gonna be ugly regardless of the roster

Maybe. I am just saying that comparing Bo to MR in regards to recruiting is ridiculous. That is a fact.

 

[kaz36]

Holy toledo, did you really just post this?

I think I have read more embarrassing stuff from Husker fans on here in the last couple weeks than in my whole time here combined. Good grief.

 

[jlb321]

Nebraska 2017

Offensive returning starters - 5
Defensive returning starters - 7

Northern Illinois 2017

Offensive starters returning - 5
Defensive starters returning - 7


https://www.google.com/amp/s/athlonsports.com/college-football/big-ten-football-2017-returning-starters-analysis?amp

https://www.google.com/amp/www.orla...ege-football-rankings-niu-0530-story,amp.html

 

[RedMyMind]

Recruiting progress shows a minimum 3-year lag time. What you see on the field now is the result of talent accumulated 3-4 years ago. That 2.8 average star class from 2014 hurts where 13 of the 25 have been busts or have already left the program. 2015 was the transitional year.

 

[Bugeater]

I think I have read more embarrassing stuff from Husker fans on here in the last couple weeks than in my whole time here combined. Good grief.

You have to admit, there's a certain entertainment value here that you just won't get anywhere else.

 

[RedMyMind]

Nebraska 2017

Offensive returning starters - 5
Defensive returning starters - 7

Northern Illinois 2017

Offensive starters returning - 5
Defensive starters returning - 7


https://www.google.com/amp/s/athlonsports.com/college-football/big-ten-football-2017-returning-starters-analysis?amp

https://www.google.com/amp/www.orla...ege-football-rankings-niu-0530-story,amp.html

Not saying it excuses that loss but I wonder what percentage of those NIU returners are seniors. We have 1 senior starter that was recruited. DPE.

And Nebraska is down 1 starter on Defense in Chris Jones, our best player.

 

[jlb321]

Nebraska 2017

Offensive returning starters - 5
Defensive returning starters - 7


Arkansas St 2017

Offensive returning starters - 5
Defensive returning starters - 5

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/spor...tball-rankings-arkansas-state-0611-story.html

 

[swissticuffs]

The passage of time is not a guarantee that imporovent will occur. Some of our players are regressing this year.

 

[huskerbaseball13]

Not saying it excuses that loss but I wonder what percentage of those NIU returners are seniors. We have 1 senior starter that was recruited. DPE.

And Nebraska is down 1 starter on Defense in Chris Jones, our best player.

You are making an assumption that just because players are returning that they will automatically get better. I’m not sure we should be excited about returning the bulk of our starters on a potential 5-6 win team. All we heard all offseason was how much better off our Oline would be due to the years under their belt. So much for that. We finally have an experienced QB that fits Rileys/Langsdorf to a T. So much for that. I’m not ready to throw in the towel on the season or on Lee but I also don’t see why people should be excited about returning a bunch of starters on a bad team.

 

[kaz36]

You have to admit, there's a certain entertainment value here that you just won't get anywhere else.

Yeah but my forehead is starting to hurt from all of the facepalms.

 

[Huskercigar]

Yes, because Husker Nation would be A-Ok with developing for the future and to hell with the current year. That would have been received just fine.

But that's what he did anyway remember. You guys were all fine with forcing their offense onto TA because you said they were building for the future. You also said no excuses this year because now he has primarily his guys.

Now the excuses are back

 

[Huskercigar]

Holy toledo, did you really just post this?

Yes I did just saying it and if you didn't catch the relationship between all the Pro-Riley giving him a pass the first year because he didn't have his players well then he should have started on it last year instead of trying to excuse away the third year too. This staff makes a habit of never substituting unless an injury forces it. We will go 8 games without ever using a back up Qb and then when he does you will give Riley a free pass because he has to use an inexperience RS freshman. He could have real easily given POB time last year. Its not like he's going to need the extra year of elgibility here.

 

[Huskercigar]

If you don't know the answer to this question by now, there is no helping you.



Again, having awareness would benefit you greatly. Inherited a roster with very little depth and average talent with an attitude problem. This was compounded with huge recruiting misses and lopsided classes.

Actually the attitude problem came after they lost their first few games under Riley. At least that was about the time the excuse makers started in.

 

[Huskercigar]

I think I have read more embarrassing stuff from Husker fans on here in the last couple weeks than in my whole time here combined. Good grief.

Yea.....I agree. Can you believe the number of people on here defending this staff. Its ridiculous the extent and amount of time they continue to act like they were right.

 

[gd81]

"I was looking at the depth chart and my 1st thought was... "I don't know how someone can NOT give Riley one more year to see what he can do."

Offense Returning Starters: 9

I'm almost able to call this 10 as El's back-up Lindsey. Not to mention the return of McQuitty
Unless Lee makes huge strides, we may see POB or most likely Gebbia leading the team.


Defense Returning Starters: 10

If defense can stay as stable as the last 10 quarters have shown.....IF... this is going to be a very tough defense.

I'm getting tired of the "Wait till next year" moniker, but next year looks very interesting."




"That's what happens when there's less than 10 teams in FBS with fewer returning starters than Nebraska had this season (and that was projected before the injury to Chris Jones).

We are as inexperienced as I can remember from a Nebraska team. And as a result, if we weren't rocking the boat hard, we'd have a ton of returning experience (and a very good recruiting class) for next season. But alas, the odds are, that's going to be blown up."

"I was looking at the depth chart and my 1st thought was... "I don't know how someone can NOT give Riley one more year to see what he can do."

Offense Returning Starters: 9

I'm almost able to call this 10 as El's back-up Lindsey. Not to mention the return of McQuitty
Unless Lee makes huge strides, we may see POB or most likely Gebbia leading the team.


Defense Returning Starters: 10

If defense can stay as stable as the last 10 quarters have shown.....IF... this is going to be a very tough defense.

I'm getting tired of the "Wait till next year" moniker, but next year looks very interesting."




"That's what happens when there's less than 10 teams in FBS with fewer returning starters than Nebraska had this season (and that was projected before the injury to Chris Jones).

We are as inexperienced as I can remember from a Nebraska team. And as a result, if we weren't rocking the boat hard, we'd have a ton of returning experience (and a very good recruiting class) for next season. But alas, the odds are, that's going to be blown up."

I agree with you plus we hear about a good class coming in. I'm sure the majority of those guys are gone if he and his staff goes.

 

[gd81]

This is stupid........if returning starters is so important he should have started more underclassman last year. See how that works.

You don't make any sense. WTF

 

[coachDubs]

You don't make any sense. WTF

Ya, my ignore list just grew by 1.

 

[JohnRossEwing]

Yeah the excuse train for MR is probably what it was like on the beaver boards...this is getting insane

 

[PeliniTheCrutch]

He needs more time. Gotta see a few more assistants fired, a couple more losses vs mediocre teams, and a little more ineptitude on offense. Only a moron wouldn't be able to see that the program is on the uptick.

 

[Huskercigar]

You don't make any sense. WTF

I'll explain it again......its directed at the people who always claimed it was alright to put the TA square peg in a round hole if it meant having our offense implemented in year three. Well then why didn't they start underclassman in year two so that we don't have to hear all these excuses again in year three.

On one end they support sacrificing the first two years to get to the third. But now they don't think we should have sacrificed some playing time in the 2nd year for other potential starters in year 3.

Its just another excuse in a year where there weren't supposed to be any excuses.

 

[timnsun]

Yea.....I agree. Can you believe the number of people on here defending this staff. Its ridiculous the extent and amount of time they continue to act like they were right.

This post is dripping with irony… You can’t make this stuff up.

 

[Huskercigar]

I agree with you plus we hear about a good class coming in. I'm sure the majority of those guys are gone if he and his staff goes.

If he and his staff go it is because they aren't getting it done. In which case most of the best recruits would have moved on anyway. Now if it appears like he isn't getting it done by midseason the AD has a chance of hiring a killer coach and maybe doing better than what MR was going to do.

 

[timnsun]

I'll explain it again......its directed at the people who always claimed it was alright to put the TA square peg in a round hole if it meant having our offense implemented in year three. Well then why didn't they start underclassman in year two so that we don't have to hear all these excuses again in year three.

On one end they support sacrificing the first two years to get to the third. But now they don't think we should have sacrificed some playing time in the 2nd year for other potential starters in year 3.

Its just another excuse in a year where there weren't supposed to be any excuses.

But this simply is not true… Look at last year. Tommy Armstrong rushed the ball a lot. Our offense ran the ball more than they threw. By a healthy margin, no less. They did not sacrifice last year like you seem to remember.

 

[Mr.Scary13]

Yeah the excuse train for MR is probably what it was like on the beaver boards...this is getting insane

No, more like some of you don't live in reality and think that a guy that has an N on his helmet is automatically a stud. What this team puts on the field as upperclassman and in particular seniors is a disgrace period. It would be a joke at a program like Vanderbilt, much less at Nebraska. People need to bite their tongue and let these guys coach a complete roster of their players. If the product sucks I'm all for going in another direction. Right now I'm content letting Riley overhaul the recruiting process at Nebraska and stacking the roster with players. I've always believed the guy after him would be the one with the chance to really get something done at Nebraska.

 

[JohnRossEwing]

No, more like some of you don't live in reality and think that a guy that has an N on his helmet is automatically a stud. What this team puts on the field as upperclassman and in particular seniors is a disgrace period. It would be a joke at a program like Vanderbilt, much less at Nebraska. People need to bite their tongue and let these guys coach a complete roster of their players. If the product sucks I'm all for going in another direction. Right now I'm content letting Riley overhaul the recruiting process at Nebraska and stacking the roster with players. I've always believed the guy after him would be the one with the chance to really get something done at Nebraska.

I don't live in reality, I live in Omaha.

 

[Toms Wife]

Maybe. I am just saying that comparing Bo to MR in regards to recruiting is ridiculous. That is a fact.

True. He just needs compared to the teams in our conference. Bo has been fired for good reason.

Now, let's all hope there is a turn around this season AND recruiting improves.

 

[HuskerDana]

True. He just needs compared to the teams in our conference. Bo has been fired for good reason.

Now, let's all hope there is a turn around this season AND recruiting improves.

Not sure of how many posts I have ever 'liked' of yours, Tom. Lol. But you are right. IF....big if I think, but if the season DOES turn around, trust me.....recruiting will be pretty damn good this year.

 

[Huskercigar]

But this simply is not true… Look at last year. Tommy Armstrong rushed the ball a lot. Our offense ran the ball more than they threw. By a healthy margin, no less. They did not sacrifice last year like you seem to remember.

I'm not saying they did......I'm saying the posters were all saying that. I'm not trying to make a point that we should have played more people last year so they were starters......I was trying to make a stupid comparison to all the posters building for year 3 and now they are using new excuses in year 3. Evidently it didn't come across right because several different posters are interpreting it differently than what I wanted to say. So that is my bad.

I guess that goes back to my philosophy on player mistakes. If I write something stupid and one person doesn't understand then it is on him......if a bunch of people don't understand than it is on me. If we have one player making mistakes its on him. When we have a lot of people making the same mistakes its on the coaches.