Raiola
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He doesn’t have a weak WR room. Could it be better? Absolutely yes. One year in AM’s tenure - his starting wr core were 3 walkons. So AM had a poor WR core for a year or two. DR doesn’t have a “weak” WR room in comparison. But it could be better for sure.
Still, our blocking isn’t great. Would have liked to see some mid level passing instead of 3 straight plays of losing yards
WR coach was insanely better under Frost vs what we have today.
Yep, Too bad Mickey married the wrong woman. Then lost his shit.
Just curious. Do you think he was told not to run before this game? Or his ankle was bothering him more than it is now?
For a true frosh, DR is doing fine. But he needs to improve.
I definitely point to coaching as the bigger problem, including most of DR’s issues.
While we’re a couple close throws (or a FG) away from 7-1, with a top 5 Win, I think we’re one better-than-average OC away from winning those close games by 2-3 scores.
I believe we’re paying better than average, and recruiting better than average (out of 100+ teams). We should get better than average results from the professional with the tools he has. Ranking in the 80’s and below for repeated years tells me offensive coaches are not getting it done.
Rhule and Satt were “chasing 3” pts. per game, but a decent OC could have chased 10-14 pts per game given our poor performance last year. Set the expectation properly, and results will follow!!
*I’ll leave judgement of the assistants off this, but haven’t forgot them.
I definitely point to coaching as the bigger problem, including most of DR’s issues.
While we’re a couple close throws (or a FG) away from 7-1, with a top 5 Win, I think we’re one better-than-average OC away from winning those close games by 2-3 scores.
I believe we’re paying better than average, and recruiting better than average (out of 100+ teams). We should get better than average results from the professional with the tools he has. Ranking in the 80’s and below for repeated years tells me offensive coaches are not getting it done.
Rhule and Satt were “chasing 3” pts. per game, but a decent OC could have chased 10-14 pts per game given our poor performance last year. Set the expectation properly, and results will follow!!
*I’ll leave judgement of the assistants off this, but haven’t forgot them.
I forget which previous WR Carricker was interviewing but he said he went to the DL coach to learn how to use his hands to get off the LOS... I thought that was interesting.
We would be 8-0 if Raiola was Mahomes and we are only 5-3 with Raiola. But what would we be if he stayed with his Georgia commitment? And what would the next two years look like?
Given the poor play of the offensive line and the two highly touted transfer receivers, I think Raiola has been just fine. Even on that INT yesterday, his receiver ran a route that looked like he was hiding from Raiola instead of getting open for him.
As for comparing him to AM’s freshman year, you may recall AM was being touted for the Heisman Trophy before his sophomore season, so yeah he probably had a better freshman year. But hopefully a combination of much better coaching, much better oline play and much better portal receivers in the next couple years will vault Raiola far beyond what AM accomplished after his freshman season.
Given the poor play of the offensive line and the two highly touted transfer receivers, I think Raiola has been just fine. Even on that INT yesterday, his receiver ran a route that looked like he was hiding from Raiola instead of getting open for him.
As for comparing him to AM’s freshman year, you may recall AM was being touted for the Heisman Trophy before his sophomore season, so yeah he probably had a better freshman year. But hopefully a combination of much better coaching, much better oline play and much better portal receivers in the next couple years will vault Raiola far beyond what AM accomplished after his freshman season.
We will have to disagree. I can’t remember worse wide receivers. What do those two portal dudes do well? Blocking? Catching 50-50 balls? Getting open? Of course there are other guys in the room but the guys we expected to be the difference makers have not produced.
Supposedly they both expected this year to really help their draft stock. I’ll bet neither will get drafted nor ever see a snap in the NFL.
As others mentioned, the difference is coaching.
For some reason, Rhule decided to fool around and hand the WR room over to a 23 year old with no coaching experience and whose own athletic career topped out as walk-on benchwarmer at Baylor.
We have had two years to observe the on-field results from the position group that he leads. They don’t run great routes, they don’t get separation, they dog it when they are not the target, they cant hold on to a contested ball if they are, and they are terrible at blocking. That is all coaching. Either he doesn’t know what to do, doesn’t know how to teach it, or doesn’t know how to command respect of those he leads. Probably all of the above.
Rhule needs to upgrade here. But he probably would feel guilty for hiring the kid and dealing him a career setback before it really starts. But he gets paid many millions to do what it takes. If he doesn’t like it, he shouldn’t hire people like that. It really shows bad judgment on his part.
Maybe we could land a 5 star WR like Terry, but not with who he sees will be coaching him. Maybe DR loses faith in his Nebraska experience and transfers at season’s end. These can be the potential consequences of trying to be cute with who you hire.
9 penalties and a serious lack of run yardage were also major problems against Illinois.
When you lose three yards on the play, you are way behind the sticks and are pretty screwed.
I agree that Rhule hiring the inexperienced young son of a buddy coach was ridiculous and needs to be fixed for 2025. But those two portal dudes had come here with an expectation they were working on improving their draft stock. Instead, neither one can block or get open. Imagine CU’s Hunter playing here. He would be getting open even if you or I was his coach. So it’s more than incompetent coaching. It's kind of a repeat of our portal qb last year.
I watched mahomes throw 5 picks against wvu. Give him time. This years a wash. But we can be good next year big we can get some dline.
People forget that at one point am was better than Joe burrow
Wow, just wow. Not going to bother reading the thread. You're Jekyll and Hyde is bad enough but now we're going to throw our freshman QB under the bus. It's never as simple as if he hit this guy we'd have this record.
Sorry man, stupid take. Look at the OC first
Sorry man, stupid take. Look at the OC first
The failure of those two portal dudes to elevate their draft stock will be noticed by other WR targets. All the more reason why Rhule needs to upgrade the WR coach.
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so you don’t remember the 3 walkon starting WRs? Cade Warner was running fly patterns. You think that receiving corp was better than what we have now with Banks, Neyor and Barney? Really??
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This is what we should have expected from a true freshman (5-3, not 7-1). AM was 1-7 after eight games, although it was not all his fault.
Let's see how he finishes the season.
Agree with pretty much everything. Especially quick timing passes… spants, quick outs and short hitch routes. I expect DR to improve on that, but will he be able to maximize his improvement and reach his ceiling with this offensive staff. Very doubtful this staff will be able to get everything that DR is capable of.
They forget Adrian peaked as a Freshman. Raiola i expect to improve next year
I think we’d be 3-5 with the alternative choice at QB. But maybe Danny Dimes Kaelin would be playing and who knows where we’d still might be 5-3.
Jmo i think Thomas has helped but satt has slowed down the process by is terrible play calling
I'll agree, somewhat,on the Rutgers game but the windy conditions did play a factor.It does appear he floats the longer passes, especially the one missed TD against Ohio St.He may have an issue with his shoulder.
Some of the overthrows are the defense contacting our receivers and messing up timing. The Illinois miss and 2 of the misses at OSU were balls released before the receivers separated from their coverage. He’s been taught to anticipate where the receivers will be and not wait for them to be clear of the defender. In the NFL if you wait until they're open, you’re too late. Some of it is probably just the difference in timing when you’re dealing with so many different guys with varying acceleration and top end speed.
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Mmm I’ll go along with the OC being subpar but Raiola has enough talent around him. He’s a true freshman. I predicted 1.5 INTs/game based on that alone.
Talent around him based upon paper projections from some things they did elsewhere, or HS stars from years ago?
Or talent around him based upon what we’ve seen on the field for this team this year?
Name one offensive player whose production is being held back due to the struggles of our true frosh QB this year. Just one.
But that wasn’t the time of position to enter the game.. it was after Hartzog interception that put the ball inside the 8 yard line..
Lots of finger point which happens when you lose games.
We probably have one of the best WR groups we have ever had. Big bodied guys with experience. Didn't say they are first round draft picks. We have experience, size and speed, not necessarily in the same package but who does? You have track guys, tall guys and lots of guys with good hands. Despite the few drops and the 50-50 balls that our guys didn't come down with, they have done a pretty good job. These guys have made some pretty amazing adjustments and catches despite the ones people seem to hold against them. Look what we started with last year and what we ended up with after the injuries. This year the guys who played after the injuries last year can hardly find the field. I suppose the coaches are just playing the wrong guys.
I am of the opinion that Raiola is having a difficult time adjusting as D's give him lots of different looks. tOSU didn't try to disguise coverage for the most part, they went man-to-man primarily. I don't see the big strong arm from Raiola that I expected to see. He likes to throw balls with touch and has since the first game despite Dr. Dingle's diagnosis. He doesn't seem to be finding outlets and hot route guys although he finally did Saturday. We have good hands at TE but not much of a down field threat, more a possession lumbering kind of guy. Whatever happened to a smaller fast guy in the slot that often had LB covering them?
I would say Sat doesn't impress me with his communication in press conferences. What I do know is, I can't recall any OC that the fans have said anything positive about since TO and that was hit and miss. People didn't like either of Frosts or Riley's and on and on it goes.
I still ask the same questions about play calling, what plays were sent in and which ones did the QB run and which ones did they ditch? What was the D doing to warrant the play? Does Raiola even understand his check downs at this point and what options he has available. There is a lot going through his young head and the learning curve is step.
We probably have one of the best WR groups we have ever had. Big bodied guys with experience. Didn't say they are first round draft picks. We have experience, size and speed, not necessarily in the same package but who does? You have track guys, tall guys and lots of guys with good hands. Despite the few drops and the 50-50 balls that our guys didn't come down with, they have done a pretty good job. These guys have made some pretty amazing adjustments and catches despite the ones people seem to hold against them. Look what we started with last year and what we ended up with after the injuries. This year the guys who played after the injuries last year can hardly find the field. I suppose the coaches are just playing the wrong guys.
I am of the opinion that Raiola is having a difficult time adjusting as D's give him lots of different looks. tOSU didn't try to disguise coverage for the most part, they went man-to-man primarily. I don't see the big strong arm from Raiola that I expected to see. He likes to throw balls with touch and has since the first game despite Dr. Dingle's diagnosis. He doesn't seem to be finding outlets and hot route guys although he finally did Saturday. We have good hands at TE but not much of a down field threat, more a possession lumbering kind of guy. Whatever happened to a smaller fast guy in the slot that often had LB covering them?
I would say Sat doesn't impress me with his communication in press conferences. What I do know is, I can't recall any OC that the fans have said anything positive about since TO and that was hit and miss. People didn't like either of Frosts or Riley's and on and on it goes.
I still ask the same questions about play calling, what plays were sent in and which ones did the QB run and which ones did they ditch? What was the D doing to warrant the play? Does Raiola even understand his check downs at this point and what options he has available. There is a lot going through his young head and the learning curve is step.
Taylor had a decent OL and run game to help him. DR has neither.
Our WRs are not good. Period. Can't block at all consistently. Can't get open. What makes them good or even close to the best. Nothing. Glad the seniors are seniors. Coach probably needs to follow them out the door.
