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Raiola: Is it just me or......

You must be young. From the early 1960s until the mid-80s (when Missouri really fell off), Missouri vs Nebraska produced some fantastic hard-fought games. Do yourself a favor and watch the 74 (TO's first loss), 75 (Bumerooski), or 78 (James Wilder) games. Then ask your dad who is this guy named Randy Jostes
I am too young to remember those ages so appreciate the corrections. It looks like they were studs in the 60’s and went 58-60 in the 70’s, which was apparently the start of their descent. Appreciate the lesson.
 
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I am too young to remember those ages so appreciate the corrections. It looks like they were studs in the 60’s and went 58-60 in the 70’s, which was apparently the start of their descent. Appreciate the lesson.
How old are you?
I am 63, I actually ran around on the grass of Memorial Stadium as a kid in mid 60’s. My father was a grad, an an engineer at Capitol Steel, across the street.

I got to enjoy the most incredible era of Nebraska football first hand. My father was also an usher at the Stadium in those days.

Never discount history in the rush to create new. We have more rivalry with PSU than probably any other B1G member.
 
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You can go back to thread - I never once said that CO and Mizzou were not rivals. Not sure how I was wrong. Was only stating that many on the board say that Nebraska is too good to have Iowa as a rival but we readily accept Mizzou as one. That logic confused me as Mizzou is a historical bottom feeder. Not sure how I became obtuse, but will go back and see. Not sure why I would put you on ignore - but feel free to do so to me since I’m apparently a troll.
Mizzou is absolutely not a historical bottom feeder. both Dan Devine and Gary Pinkel had them regularly in the top 10 during two separate decades.

meaningful games add fuel to a true rivalry

the reality is, our games against iowa will never be truly meaningful

either we will be good and they will be average or we will be bad and they will be average

neither of those scenarios produce much reason to care
 
I am too young to remember those ages so appreciate the corrections. It looks like they were studs in the 60’s and went 58-60 in the 70’s, which was apparently the start of their descent. Appreciate the lesson.
Randy Jostes, a DT from Ralston, playing for Mizzou, took out Jarvis Redwine’s knee on an insignificant XP attempt, intentionally.

More history.
 
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How old are you?
I am 63, I actually ran around on the grass of Memorial Stadium as a kid in mid 60’s. My father was a grad, an an engineer at Capitol Steel, across the street.

I got to enjoy the most incredible era of Nebraska football first hand. My father was also an usher at the Stadium in those days.

Never discount history in the rush to create new. We have more rivalry with PSU than probably any other B1G member.
I was never trying to discount history - only saying that it ain’t coming back any time soon unless we schedule those rivals as permanent non-conference games (those will be dwindling soon to) so we need to start duking it out and establishing true rivals with our conference foes.

I’m about 20 years your junior and didn’t attend my first game until out of college. I followed more pro’s growing up so didn’t fully experience our 90’s like I wish I would have. As I moved away from the state I started following it more closely as it was a great tie back to my roots and my family. So I would say I actually became a bigger fan the further away I was. I used to browse the HuskerMax forum and didn’t realize this one even existed. I think it’s more fun banter on this one and it seems like the news travels much faster here too.
 
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Never discount history in the rush to create new. We have more rivalry with PSU than probably any other B1G member.
amen, brother

it still requires a fair amount of cognitive dissonance when considering a former PSU linebacker is the best man to lead NU back to glory

funny how the world works sometimes
 
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As Nebraska is finding out, you cannot artificially create a rivalry. The reason Wisconsin and Minnesota didn't pick Nebraska was because they have a long established history playing other schools and those actual rivalries were more important than playing Nebraska. Look at Penn St if you want to view a similar situation. They have zero Big Ten rivals after nearly 33 years in the league, there is literally no Big Ten team that is saying, we need to play Penn St every year. Sometimes rivalries develop, but there is a good chance that Nebraska will be more like Penn St with no real rival than say Iowa who has 2 or 3 teams that they want to play every year.
 
As Nebraska is finding out, you cannot artificially create a rivalry. The reason Wisconsin and Minnesota didn't pick Nebraska was because they have a long established history playing other schools and those actual rivalries were more important than playing Nebraska. Look at Penn St if you want to view a similar situation. They have zero Big Ten rivals after nearly 33 years in the league, there is literally no Big Ten team that is saying, we need to play Penn St every year. Sometimes rivalries develop, but there is a good chance that Nebraska will be more like Penn St with no real rival than say Iowa who has 2 or 3 teams that they want to play every year.
too bad we can't put our roller skates/key together
 
Randy Jostes, a DT from Ralston, playing for Mizzou, took out Jarvis Redwine’s knee on an insignificant XP attempt, intentionally.

More history.
Actually, no. Randy Jostes had an egregious late hit on Turner Gill in the 82 game. The guy you're thinking of is Norm Goodman, who is in prison for life in Canada for sexual assaults
 
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Actually, no. Randy Jostes had an egregious late hit on Turner Gill in the 82 game. The guy you're thinking of is Norm Goodman, who is in prison for life in Canada for sexual assaults
Norm Goodman sounds like a real jerk.
 
Actually, no. Randy Jostes had an egregious late hit on Turner Gill in the 82 game. The guy you're thinking of is Norm Goodman, who is in prison for life in Canada for sexual assaults
I read wrong, plus OWH blocks the story.

Randy Jostes, “attempted dirty hit”, on Jarvis

Dirty hit on Turner.
 
Also could stand for dime bags, and it sounds very unimaginative.

I got a feeling the chances of 'Danny Dimes' turning into 'Danny Dime Bags' the way 'Johnny Football' turned into 'Johnny Eight Ball' are pretty low. Hard pass on a clown show like that. I mean, other than the Heisman that is.
 
You can go back to thread - I never once said that CO and Mizzou were not rivals. Not sure how I was wrong. Was only stating that many on the board say that Nebraska is too good to have Iowa as a rival but we readily accept Mizzou as one. That logic confused me as Mizzou is a historical bottom feeder. Not sure how I became obtuse, but will go back and see. Not sure why I would put you on ignore - but feel free to do so to me since I’m apparently a troll.
As has been illustrated, Mizzou (and CO) haven't always been bottom dwellers. And you don't have to go all the way back to before we were born for when either one was successful. Both were playing for conference championships and finishing in the top 25 in the early 2000s just like we were. Don't have to go back very far to remember when the Big 12 North was pretty much a 2 man race between the 3 of us any given year.
 
F@&$&$) A ladies, you’ve got this much capacity for a proposed nickname of a quarterback, not yet on the roster?
 
F@&$&$) A ladies, you’ve got this much capacity for a proposed nickname of a quarterback, not yet on the roster?

You've got this much capacity to bitch about people having capacity for a proposed nickname of a quarterback, not yet on the roster?
 
As has been illustrated, Mizzou (and CO) haven't always been bottom dwellers. And you don't have to go all the way back to before we were born for when either one was successful. Both were playing for conference championships and finishing in the top 25 in the early 2000s just like we were. Don't have to go back very far to remember when the Big 12 North was pretty much a 2 man race between the 3 of us any given year.
This has certainly been illustrated. But for perspective - is Mizzou better historically than Iowa? I would venture to say they have similar paths as a program. So to say that Iowa is beneath us as a rival but accept Mizzou doesn’t align. That was the only point I was trying to make. Let’s not act like Mizzou is a world beater, blue blood. Then piss on a rival that is right next door to us with similar credentials as Mizzou.
 
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This has certainly been illustrated. But for perspective - is Mizzou better historically than Iowa? I would venture to say they have similar paths as a program. So to say that Iowa is beneath us as a rival but accept Mizzou doesn’t align. That was the only point I was trying to make. Let’s not act like Mizzou is a world beater, blue blood. Then piss on a rival that is right next door to us with similar credentials as Mizzou.
You seem to want to create a rivalry with Iowa. Before Nebraska joined the Big Ten the teams only played 4 times after WWII. There was no interest in either team playing the other. They share nothing in common except a border.

They have played 53 times and even after losing 7 in a row to Iowa and 8 of the last 10, Nebraska still has won 60% of the games.

As I wrote, you cannot just create a rivalry, it has to grow organically. Can Iowa and Nebraska turn into a rivalry? Sure but it is going to take some time.
 
You seem to want to create a rivalry with Iowa. Before Nebraska joined the Big Ten the teams only played 4 times after WWII. There was no interest in either team playing the other. They share nothing in common except a border.

They have played 53 times and even after losing 7 in a row to Iowa and 8 of the last 10, Nebraska still has won 60% of the games.

As I wrote, you cannot just create a rivalry, it has to grow organically. Can Iowa and Nebraska turn into a rivalry? Sure but it is going to take some time.
Agree. I don’t care who our rivalries end up being - I’m just open to having some in the B1G. Iowa was used as an example. King made a good point about WI and others have said Penn St. Certainly don’t want it forced and many fans will have different opinions based on the people they interact with from other fan bases or neighbors (had a neighbor from Purdue so it was always fun to play them so we could razz each other). They will develop in time.
 
This has certainly been illustrated. But for perspective - is Mizzou better historically than Iowa? I would venture to say they have similar paths as a program. So to say that Iowa is beneath us as a rival but accept Mizzou doesn’t align. That was the only point I was trying to make. Let’s not act like Mizzou is a world beater, blue blood. Then piss on a rival that is right next door to us with similar credentials as Mizzou.

All true. But for more perspective - Mizzou was about #3 on our rivalry list...tops. OU and CU were always ahead of them and any given year, you could probably plug Texas and KSU in above Missouri. So, sure, if you want to compare apples to apples, Iowa should be about a tier 3 rival for us, tops.

Iowa's not a real rival. They likely never will be. Unfortunately, we no longer have a real one so we're forced to settle for a tier 3 contrived rival now. Our biggest "rival" is a team nobody outside of the state of Iowa has ever cared about. Just one of the many crappy results of joining the B1G.

Hell, I bet most NU fans would still take a win against an out of conference OU, CU (especially now with Deion), or Texas over a win against Iowa. For even more perspective.
 
Agree. I don’t care who our rivalries end up being - I’m just open to having some in the B1G. Iowa was used as an example. King made a good point about WI and others have said Penn St. Certainly don’t want it forced and many fans will have different opinions based on the people they interact with from other fan bases or neighbors (had a neighbor from Purdue so it was always fun to play them so we could razz each other). They will develop in time.
But the point that you have tried to make is that many believe Iowa is beneath Nebraska. It isn’t really about being beneath. There is literally 16 or 17 games of history since World War II.
 
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This has certainly been illustrated. But for perspective - is Mizzou better historically than Iowa? I would venture to say they have similar paths as a program. So to say that Iowa is beneath us as a rival but accept Mizzou doesn’t align. That was the only point I was trying to make. Let’s not act like Mizzou is a world beater, blue blood. Then piss on a rival that is right next door to us with similar credentials as Mizzou.
The games have to mean something

Iowa will never vie for anything meaningful & they won’t do scumbag stuff like intentionally hurt our guys with dirty plays on the field or vandalize our property/assault our fans off it

Those are 2 main rivalry ingredients that are now and will forever be missing
 
But the point that you have tried to make is that many believe Iowa is beneath Nebraska. It isn’t really about being beneath. There is literally 16 or 17 games of history since World War II.
And zero of those have meant anything
 
But the point that you have tried to make is that many believe Iowa is beneath Nebraska. It isn’t really about being beneath. There is literally 16 or 17 games of history since World War II.
Which is the sacrifice you make by switching conferences unfortunately. A ton of history lost in an instant.
 
And had he committed to Nebraska, things could very well have went boom for Nebraska too.

We will never really know though.

I think having a QB committed is the common denominator. That is what gets things rolling, especially a top ranked QB, or an Elite 11 QB.
With the transfer portal being such a game of musical chairs that extra recruiting effort often pays off later when a kid decides to transfer. He'll look at the schools that were 2nd, 3rd, or 4th choice. Look at Quinn Ewers for example. Was a Texas verbal commit, then signed with OSU, only to transfer to Texas.
 
With the transfer portal being such a game of musical chairs that extra recruiting effort often pays off later when a kid decides to transfer. He'll look at the schools that were 2nd, 3rd, or 4th choice. Look at Quinn Ewers for example. Was a Texas verbal commit, then signed with OSU, only to transfer to Texas.
Not sure what that has to do with it. You don't recruit a player with the hope of getting him on the rebound. Getting a QB in the class is important. That QB can be the lead recruiter for the rest of the class. It wouldn't have mattered if it was Raiola or Kaelin, either was going to start the ball rolling.
 
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