Radical change needed

[Pennsyhusker]

The idea that one should fire a first year coach who inherited a mess from the previous coach is a very bad idea on its face. It should be done rarely and only with good cause. So I share the concerns of those who are counseling for patience.

But the loss to Purdue, with a total defensive collapse against a woeful offense, has caused me to reevaluate. I think we were 100% correct to fire Bo. But I have never understood the Riley hire. And yesterday confirms my fear. This team is collapsing before our eyes. And if there are all these "pro Bo" players still on the team creating dissension, that is still on Riley. He should identify such players and kick them off the team. Why not? We could not have had a worse season anyway so why not make such a clear statement? These coaches are soft West Coasties it seems to me. Their style of football is unimaginative and weak. Less than 100 yards rushing again? That is not Pelini's fault folks. And the talent on the offensive line is not THAT bleak.

In short, first year or not, low talent or not, injuries or not, THIS IS A POORLY COACHED FOOTBALL TEAM. This is the most poorly coached Nebraska team I have seen in my lifetime. Yes Callahan had a wretched first year too. But at least in his first year he gave us hope by hauling in a top 5 recruiting class. But these coaches not only seem lost as coaches, but also seem mediocre as recruiters. I would be more patient if they were putting together a great recruiting class but they aren't.

We need to fire the AD and these coaches. And count me among those who say we need to reinfuse the program with Nebraska bloodlines. Trev Alberts, Scott Frost and a bevy of former players who are now coaches of various kinds. I know I know... "Times have changed" blah blah blah. "Frost is unproven!" Well yes ... But Riley is "proven"? At what exactly?? 5-7 seasons??

 

[Captain Nick]

Unfortunately, we seem to find ourselves in a bit of a pickle here. If MR leaves, whether it be of his own choosing or if someone is forcing his hand, the same idiot who got us into this mess in the first place will be hirering the next guy too. Change needs to start at the top with Eichorst first and that's probably unlikely to happen until Pearlman retired next summer. My advice would be to settle in because this sideshow is likely to continue for another year.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

Solid stuff Pennsy, I can't "like" it because I am still more N than out with Riley, but that was solid.

 

[otismotis08]

DELTA

 

[red rover 70]

So are we having a meeting of the second party??? Cool! Now i get to find out exacly what this group's demands are??? They've caused enough mass hysteria to feel confident in forwarding their acceptable alternative.

 

[jflores]

The idea that one should fire a first year coach who inherited a mess from the previous coach is a very bad idea on its face. It should be done rarely and only with good cause. So I share the concerns of those who are counseling for patience.

But the loss to Purdue, with a total defensive collapse against a woeful offense, has caused me to reevaluate. I think we were 100% correct to fire Bo. But I have never understood the Riley hire. And yesterday confirms my fear. This team is collapsing before our eyes. And if there are all these "pro Bo" players still on the team creating dissension, that is still on Riley. He should identify such players and kick them off the team. Why not? We could not have had a worse season anyway so why not make such a clear statement? These coaches are soft West Coasties it seems to me. Their style of football is unimaginative and weak. Less than 100 yards rushing again? That is not Pelini's fault folks. And the talent on the offensive line is not THAT bleak.

In short, first year or not, low talent or not, injuries or not, THIS IS A POORLY COACHED FOOTBALL TEAM. This is the most poorly coached Nebraska team I have seen in my lifetime. Yes Callahan had a wretched first year too. But at least in his first year he gave us hope by hauling in a top 5 recruiting class. But these coaches not only seem lost as coaches, but also seem mediocre as recruiters. I would be more patient if they were putting together a great recruiting class but they aren't.

We need to fire the AD and these coaches. And count me among those who say we need to reinfuse the program with Nebraska bloodlines. Trev Alberts, Scott Frost and a bevy of former players who are now coaches of various kinds. I know I know... "Times have changed" blah blah blah. "Frost is unproven!" Well yes ... But Riley is "proven"? At what exactly?? 5-7 seasons??

I think folks hoping for radical stylistic change in terms of the offense are going to be disappointed. I don't think there's any way that Riley and Langs go to breakfast with Milt today, and then start running power as a matter of extreme habit.

As far as the "he should identify those folks and kick them off the team", its been rumored just that is going to happen this off season, with some folks saying losing 15 players or so is in the works.

I have a lot of concern for this team same as anyone else, but I don't see Riley reinventing the offensive wheel due to fan pressure. Its going to be like any other coaching situation, there will probably be some scrutiny of specific coaches and/or techniques by fans and media, but on the whole it'll be a wait and see what his guys do that gets him past year 2.

As far as the "more Nebraska" thought, Vrzal basically straight up said on Over Reaction that "sending a bunch of 90's guys down there to fix it" is not how this thing is going to work. Zatechka before him, basically said that "installing Alberts and Frost with West O money" was basically a message board pipe dream and ill advised to boot. Granted they are only opinions, same as anyone else, but we're not seeing a whole lot of movement in the former player base to patchwork together some sort of NU alumni dream team.

I think in terms of "getting back to Nebraska", its not going to be so much personalities, but styles. While saying that Frost and Alberts were not the answer (at least near term), Zatechka did go off to support the fact that we need to instill physicality and a better run game, whoever the coach is.

 

[B3Vandy]

Shawn and Harvey need to FIRED first!!!!! Pathetic Football Management Skills!!!

 

[red rover 70]

Solid stuff Pennsy, I can't "like" it because I am still more N than out with Riley, but that was solid.

Now please! You were out the second your guy wasn't hired. Honestly i think you guys are lower then scum. At least i can respect the Bo group... they actually believe in their BS. You guys are just low life opportunists looking to piggy back of all the destruction Bo's group is causing.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

Ummm Rover, I wanted Riley, a lot, but you have me curious now. Who was "my guy"?

I will add, I think you are a certified lunatic. Some of the stuff you post about me in terms of what you think I think? It's weird to say the least.

 

[Wasker77]

I don't understand those who continue to support Riley. What has he ever done to give you hope in anything? This blind loyalty to someone who has been at Nebraska for less than a year is baffling. I think we all need to support the players. They are just kids and they did not create this mess. However, Mike Riley and his staff have done everything possible to lose our respect. As far as change happening sooner than later I too believe politics will prevent this. Perlman is not firing Eichorst and Eichorst is not firing Riley. Until there is change at the top I don't think there is a chance in hell that any change takes place.

 

[dinglefritz]

Oh goodie. Just what we needed another fire Eichorst and Riley thread......

 

[red rover 70]

Ummm Rover, I wanted Riley, a lot, but you have me curious now. Who was "my guy"?

I will add, I think you are a certified lunatic. Some of the stuff you post about me in terms of what you think I think? It's weird to say the least.

You're the one wanting a change in leadership. Why don't you tell us who you think is better suited for Shawn and Mike's job?

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

Ummm, again, I am not wanting that . You cannot point to a single post I have ever made wanting MR gone or SE, or both. You have me confused with somebody else.

 

[huskerbaseball13]

Now please! You were out the second your guy wasn't hired. Honestly i think you guys are lower then scum. At least i can respect the Bo group... they actually believe in their BS. You guys are just low life opportunists looking to piggy back of all the destruction Bo's group is causing.

"Your guy." Who is that guy BTW?

 

[Wasker77]

Oh goodie. Just what we needed another fire Eichorst and Riley thread......

Dingle, Again, You are so fast to attack any anti-Riley talk. Give me hope. Tell me what Mike Riley has done to make me a believer? Tell me how he has united the team. Tell me how he has brought pride to the program. Tell me anything positive. Oh, that's right. You don't ever cite any actual facts. You are the chest pumper boy. Come on! Give me one substantiated fact about Mike Riley that has been a positive.

 

[red rover 70]

Ummm, again, I am not wanting that . You cannot point to a single post I have ever made wanting MR gone or SE, or both. You have me confused with somebody else.

Group #2... check.

 

[red rover 70]

Lightspeed, if you weren't in group 2 you would understand Riley is literally in a no win situation right now. The players are single handedly sinking the ship and he's trying to save them. He's trying to do the honorable thing and it very well may cost him his job.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

I do not call for Riley to be fired lightly. It is a very risky move. But why not look at the evidence on the field and conclude: hiring this guy was a mistake. And IF that is a valid conclusion then why let him stick around?

 

[huskerbaseball13]

Lightspeed, if you weren't in group 2 you would understand Riley is literally in a no win situation right now. The players are single handedly sinking the ship and he's trying to save them. He's tryst do the honorable thing and it very well may cost him his job.

Yet how many changes has he made to the starting lineup? If players are single handedly sinking the ship then put them on the bench! Start a team of freshman if you have to. In reality what may cost him his job is hi inability to beat teams like Purdue and Illinois......he is responsible and thus far he has been a train wreck.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

Seriously Rover, I have zero idea WTF you are talking about. That put's me in the "group" that thinks you're kinda whacko.

 

[HuskerBandGeek]

This season is unfortunate on a lot of fronts, I won't bemoan the fact that the losses are unacceptable.

What I will argue with you until I am blue in the face is throwing this at the feet of the current regime. The recruiting that put this team together is beyond questionable, it is clear now Pelini et al had no clue how to handle roster construction and to recruit to the needs of the teams depth chart. We are beyond woefully stocked at key positions throughout the team, and no longer playing a style of defense that makes up for the lack of talent is making it show. The current scheme plans to aggressively stop the run and leave the second level to handle its business as opposed to years past where lineman filled gaps and we played coverage to hide the deficiencies at corner. The defense backs on this team, besides maybe the ones red shirting, are ill suited to play coverage in this scheme. You can argue the staff should have made adjustments to handle the deficiency, but what good does that do for you? You don't intend to do that moving forward, so continuing to teach it is hamstringing your ability to recruit that kind of corner and putting the kids at a disadvantage in the future.

The offense at time has been a machine, but at others has been frustratingly inefficient. The running game has regressed, but with out Ameer we are left with a back at times has seemed indecisive and misses cut back lanes and dances instead of hitting the hole. The lack of usage of Devine and Wilbon has been a head scratcher, but I have to presume there is a reason. The passing game has clearly been an accurate QB that makes good decisions away from being pretty good. The drops haven't helped anything for sure, but there have been times where swings/screens/wheels have been dramatically over/under thrown and that doesn't help. Pair that with the occasional bone head throw directly to the defense and you have a recipe for trouble. I love Tommy's heart but there are occasional issues between the ears that lave you scratching your head. This Purdue game featured an alarming five turnovers from the offense, many perpetrated by the back up QB who was playing a game where it became a shoot out and called for him to pass a ton. A yeomen effort for sure, but his turnovers didn't help a short handed defense keep the score down. The fact we had that many turnovers and still kept the score with in ten is a positive in my mind.

One thing I will take from this year, besides the fact that internet fans are a fickle bunch, is the fact we are close to turning the corner. If you go back to 2011, the average margin of defeat for the Nebraska team has been 19.75, 18.5, 16.25, and 11.75. This year we, even with the Purdue loss, sit at 3.83 margin of defeat. An off season that seems destined to purge some malcontents from the team, bring some kids off red shirt or into the program from the outside to fill gaps on defense and potentially get a QB that can reliably complete a short pass and we should be able to close the gap. I'll leave the doom and gloom for all you internet debbie downers, but I will go on record as saying firing a coach after one year will be a devastating blow to fixing what is wrong with this program. We will be on the short side of another recruiting year, will still have the culture issues we have now and barring an absolute home run hire will be years from fixing this. If Mike and Co. can't do better than this next year then the topic is open, but going extremely short term view and being myopic to the problems this program has will just make it worse.

 

[Archie Graham]

This season is unfortunate on a lot of fronts, I won't bemoan the fact that the losses are unacceptable.

What I will argue with you until I am blue in the face is throwing this at the feet of the current regime. The recruiting that put this team together is beyond questionable, it is clear now Pelini et al had no clue how to handle roster construction and to recruit to the needs of the teams depth chart. We are beyond woefully stocked at key positions throughout the team, and no longer playing a style of defense that makes up for the lack of talent is making it show. The current scheme plans to aggressively stop the run and leave the second level to handle its business as opposed to years past where lineman filled gaps and we played coverage to hide the deficiencies at corner. The defense backs on this team, besides maybe the ones red shirting, are ill suited to play coverage in this scheme. You can argue the staff should have made adjustments to handle the deficiency, but what good does that do for you? You don't intend to do that moving forward, so continuing to teach it is hamstringing your ability to recruit that kind of corner and putting the kids at a disadvantage in the future.

The offense at time has been a machine, but at others has been frustratingly inefficient. The running game has regressed, but with out Ameer we are left with a back at times has seemed indecisive and misses cut back lanes and dances instead of hitting the hole. The lack of usage of Devine and Wilbon has been a head scratcher, but I have to presume there is a reason. The passing game has clearly been an accurate QB that makes good decisions away from being pretty good. The drops haven't helped anything for sure, but there have been times where swings/screens/wheels have been dramatically over/under thrown and that doesn't help. Pair that with the occasional bone head throw directly to the defense and you have a recipe for trouble. I love Tommy's heart but there are occasional issues between the ears that lave you scratching your head. This Purdue game featured an alarming five turnovers from the offense, many perpetrated by the back up QB who was playing a game where it became a shoot out and called for him to pass a ton. A yeomen effort for sure, but his turnovers didn't help a short handed defense keep the score down. The fact we had that many turnovers and still kept the score with in ten is a positive in my mind.

One thing I will take from this year, besides the fact that internet fans are a fickle bunch, is the fact we are close to turning the corner. If you go back to 2011, the average margin of defeat for the Nebraska team has been 19.75, 18.5, 16.25, and 11.75. This year we, even with the Purdue loss, sit at 3.83 margin of defeat. An off season that seems destined to purge some malcontents from the team, bring some kids off red shirt or into the program from the outside to fill gaps on defense and potentially get a QB that can reliably complete a short pass and we should be able to close the gap. I'll leave the doom and gloom for all you internet debbie downers, but I will go on record as saying firing a coach after one year will be a devastating blow to fixing what is wrong with this program. We will be on the short side of another recruiting year, will still have the culture issues we have now and barring an absolute home run hire will be years from fixing this. If Mike and Co. can't do better than this next year then the topic is open, but going extremely short term view and being myopic to the problems this program has will just make it worse.

Excellent addition to the absurd dialogue going on right now. Thanks for this.

 

[StrongArm517]

People talk about Frost all the time but does anyone know if he would even accept the job?

After all, he turned down his scholly offer out of HS and he isn't the proven guy you could justify throwing a ton of money at.

 

[HuskerBandGeek]

Excellent addition to the absurd dialogue going on right now. Thanks for this.

Anytime, I've been involved in several heated arguments in other media forms than this board about this topic and finally decided to say something. I can't believe people can look past the roster issues and just go full venom at the current staff. Pelini and company set us up for this and Riley caught the bouncing grenade when it finally went off. It's unfortunate, and as a guy who was in the band the year Pelini interim coached the alamo bowl and chanted for his hire it hurts to admit how wrong I was about him, but his results at lesser division school show he wasn't the guy and our current mess falls at his feet.

 

[nebcountry]

I think Riley can put together 6-7-8 win seasons. Don't take that as a vote of confidence or a proclamation of being good. Unfortunately, we will have people proclaiming him the football messiah and he will get a effin contract extension if he wins one more game next year.

Firing him after this year would likely dig a deeper hole for us. We've backed ourselves into a corner and now there is no good way out.

AND PLEASE, we've lost to Illinois and Purdue, quit talking about margin of losses.

 

[StrongArm517]

Anytime, I've been involved in several heated arguments in other media forms than this board about this topic and finally decided to say something. I can't believe people can look past the roster issues and just go full venom at the current staff. Pelini and company set us up for this and Riley caught the bouncing grenade when it finally went off. It's unfortunate, and as a guy who was in the band the year Pelini interim coached the alamo bowl and chanted for his hire it hurts to admit how wrong I was about him, but his results at lesser division school show he wasn't the guy and our current mess falls at his feet.

Do you still have contacts in the band or know someone who could get our base drummer dialed in to the fact that he can control the crowd with two beats and lead the D- Fence chant?

 

[vs540husker]

It all starts at the top and it has become very clear that Riley wasn't hired to "take us over the hump" but purely for selfish reasons of Perlman & Eichorst not wanting to deal with Bo or anyone like Bo. They asked who the nicest guy in football was and were told to check out Riley. They interview him and only him and make the hire. Riley's entire career completely overlooked because he was a nice guy. Riley in turn hires on the staff that he was told by Oregon State to let go or he would be facing the axe. We ended up doing Oregon State a favor and for a blue blood program like Nebraska, that is entirely inexcusable.

You can't sit there and say "give them time", they've had decades of time already. You give *NEW* coaches time, this isn't Temple that is in their third year with a new coach who had no prior experience and was brought in after a 4-7 season. This is Nebraska, that went 9-4 and yet, brought in a coach who was on the hot seat for going 5-7 and had a 18 year career .500 record. This team is regressing as the season progresses, you should be getting better as the season moves on, not getting worse.

Perlman and Eichorst need to be removed and people that actually care about winning need to be brought in.

 

[SnohomishRed]

This season is unfortunate on a lot of fronts, I won't bemoan the fact that the losses are unacceptable.

What I will argue with you until I am blue in the face is throwing this at the feet of the current regime. The recruiting that put this team together is beyond questionable, it is clear now Pelini et al had no clue how to handle roster construction and to recruit to the needs of the teams depth chart. We are beyond woefully stocked at key positions throughout the team, and no longer playing a style of defense that makes up for the lack of talent is making it show. The current scheme plans to aggressively stop the run and leave the second level to handle its business as opposed to years past where lineman filled gaps and we played coverage to hide the deficiencies at corner. The defense backs on this team, besides maybe the ones red shirting, are ill suited to play coverage in this scheme. You can argue the staff should have made adjustments to handle the deficiency, but what good does that do for you? You don't intend to do that moving forward, so continuing to teach it is hamstringing your ability to recruit that kind of corner and putting the kids at a disadvantage in the future.

The offense at time has been a machine, but at others has been frustratingly inefficient. The running game has regressed, but with out Ameer we are left with a back at times has seemed indecisive and misses cut back lanes and dances instead of hitting the hole. The lack of usage of Devine and Wilbon has been a head scratcher, but I have to presume there is a reason. The passing game has clearly been an accurate QB that makes good decisions away from being pretty good. The drops haven't helped anything for sure, but there have been times where swings/screens/wheels have been dramatically over/under thrown and that doesn't help. Pair that with the occasional bone head throw directly to the defense and you have a recipe for trouble. I love Tommy's heart but there are occasional issues between the ears that lave you scratching your head. This Purdue game featured an alarming five turnovers from the offense, many perpetrated by the back up QB who was playing a game where it became a shoot out and called for him to pass a ton. A yeomen effort for sure, but his turnovers didn't help a short handed defense keep the score down. The fact we had that many turnovers and still kept the score with in ten is a positive in my mind.

One thing I will take from this year, besides the fact that internet fans are a fickle bunch, is the fact we are close to turning the corner. If you go back to 2011, the average margin of defeat for the Nebraska team has been 19.75, 18.5, 16.25, and 11.75. This year we, even with the Purdue loss, sit at 3.83 margin of defeat. An off season that seems destined to purge some malcontents from the team, bring some kids off red shirt or into the program from the outside to fill gaps on defense and potentially get a QB that can reliably complete a short pass and we should be able to close the gap. I'll leave the doom and gloom for all you internet debbie downers, but I will go on record as saying firing a coach after one year will be a devastating blow to fixing what is wrong with this program. We will be on the short side of another recruiting year, will still have the culture issues we have now and barring an absolute home run hire will be years from fixing this. If Mike and Co. can't do better than this next year then the topic is open, but going extremely short term view and being myopic to the problems this program has will just make it worse.

I agree he gets another year to right the ship but next year cannot just be ok with some bad losses. The problem I have with this staff is that I really just do not see their decision making changing, the schemes also need to change.

Fans are not fickle NU as a program is in complete meltdown right now.

 

[HuskerBandGeek]

I think Riley can put together 6-7-8 win seasons. Don't take that as a vote of confidence or a proclamation of being good. Unfortunately, we will have people proclaiming him the football messiah and he will get a effin contract extension if he wins one more game next year.

Firing him after this year would likely dig a deeper hole for us. We've backed ourselves into a corner and now there is no good way out.

AND PLEASE, we've lost to Illinois and Purdue, quit talking about margin of losses.

I don't think he will be extended if he wins one more game next year, and I'm not about to call him a football messiah, but the amount of vitriol thrown at the current staff is bordering on absurd.

The Purdue loss does sting, but not having our starting QB got us in a mess against a team that almost got to Michigan State. Illinois also stung, but its not like they walked away with the game. This year was destined to be struggle based off the injuries and roster issues. If the reports about locker room hostility and players not giving 100 percent effort are true, then clearly this should be looked at an unfortunate transition year and next year should be the litmus test.

 

[Wasker77]

This season is unfortunate on a lot of fronts, I won't bemoan the fact that the losses are unacceptable.

What I will argue with you until I am blue in the face is throwing this at the feet of the current regime. The recruiting that put this team together is beyond questionable, it is clear now Pelini et al had no clue how to handle roster construction and to recruit to the needs of the teams depth chart. We are beyond woefully stocked at key positions throughout the team, and no longer playing a style of defense that makes up for the lack of talent is making it show. The current scheme plans to aggressively stop the run and leave the second level to handle its business as opposed to years past where lineman filled gaps and we played coverage to hide the deficiencies at corner. The defense backs on this team, besides maybe the ones red shirting, are ill suited to play coverage in this scheme. You can argue the staff should have made adjustments to handle the deficiency, but what good does that do for you? You don't intend to do that moving forward, so continuing to teach it is hamstringing your ability to recruit that kind of corner and putting the kids at a disadvantage in the future.

The offense at time has been a machine, but at others has been frustratingly inefficient. The running game has regressed, but with out Ameer we are left with a back at times has seemed indecisive and misses cut back lanes and dances instead of hitting the hole. The lack of usage of Devine and Wilbon has been a head scratcher, but I have to presume there is a reason. The passing game has clearly been an accurate QB that makes good decisions away from being pretty good. The drops haven't helped anything for sure, but there have been times where swings/screens/wheels have been dramatically over/under thrown and that doesn't help. Pair that with the occasional bone head throw directly to the defense and you have a recipe for trouble. I love Tommy's heart but there are occasional issues between the ears that lave you scratching your head. This Purdue game featured an alarming five turnovers from the offense, many perpetrated by the back up QB who was playing a game where it became a shoot out and called for him to pass a ton. A yeomen effort for sure, but his turnovers didn't help a short handed defense keep the score down. The fact we had that many turnovers and still kept the score with in ten is a positive in my mind.

One thing I will take from this year, besides the fact that internet fans are a fickle bunch, is the fact we are close to turning the corner. If you go back to 2011, the average margin of defeat for the Nebraska team has been 19.75, 18.5, 16.25, and 11.75. This year we, even with the Purdue loss, sit at 3.83 margin of defeat. An off season that seems destined to purge some malcontents from the team, bring some kids off red shirt or into the program from the outside to fill gaps on defense and potentially get a QB that can reliably complete a short pass and we should be able to close the gap. I'll leave the doom and gloom for all you internet debbie downers, but I will go on record as saying firing a coach after one year will be a devastating blow to fixing what is wrong with this program. We will be on the short side of another recruiting year, will still have the culture issues we have now and barring an absolute home run hire will be years from fixing this. If Mike and Co. can't do better than this next year then the topic is open, but going extremely short term view and being myopic to the problems this program has will just make it worse.

Mike entered this season with a 48% winning percentage in conference games. He is now at 46.9%. Do we wait until he drops a few more points before we start to think maybe he is not the right man to lead our football team?

 

[HuskerBandGeek]

I think Riley can put together 6-7-8 win seasons. Don't take that as a vote of confidence or a proclamation of being good. Unfortunately, we will have people proclaiming him the football messiah and he will get a effin contract extension if he wins one more game next year.

Firing him after this year would likely dig a deeper hole for us. We've backed ourselves into a corner and now there is no good way out.

AND PLEASE, we've lost to Illinois and Purdue, quit talking about margin of losses.

Do you still have contacts in the band or know someone who could get our base drummer dialed in to the fact that he can control the crowd with two beats and lead the D- Fence chant?

Lol, sometimes leading crowd chants can be hard. You have no idea how hard it is to keep tempo with people clapping and shouting at their own pace can be, sometime you should try to metronome in your head when people clap to the fight song. It's hilarious.

 

[HuskerBandGeek]

It all starts at the top and it has become very clear that Riley wasn't hired to "take us over the hump" but purely for selfish reasons of Perlman & Eichorst not wanting to deal with Bo or anyone like Bo. They asked who the nicest guy in football was and were told to check out Riley. They interview him and only him and make the hire. Riley's entire career completely overlooked because he was a nice guy. Riley in turn hires on the staff that he was told by Oregon State to let go or he would be facing the axe. We ended up doing Oregon State a favor and for a blue blood program like Nebraska, that is entirely inexcusable.

You can't sit there and say "give them time", they've had decades of time already. You give *NEW* coaches time, this isn't Temple that is in their third year with a new coach who had no prior experience and was brought in after a 4-7 season. This is Nebraska, that went 9-4 and yet, brought in a coach who was on the hot seat for going 5-7 and had a 18 year career .500 record. This team is regressing as the season progresses, you should be getting better as the season moves on, not getting worse.

Perlman and Eichorst need to be removed and people that actually care about winning need to be brought in.

Yawn, do you keep that copied to the clip board at all times. Riley is not established here, yes you can argue all you want about his career record, but career record isn't a lock in step predictor of future success. We haven't been the only elite program to look his way in recent memory, so its not like they hired a no name with no interest elsewhere.

 

[jflores]

Excellent addition to the absurd dialogue going on right now. Thanks for this.

Agreed

 

[HuskerBandGeek]

Mike entered this season with a 48% winning percentage in conference games. He is now at 46.9%. Do we wait until he drops a few more points before we start to think maybe he is not the right man to lead our football team?

I do believe you should allow him to exercise the demons left by the prior staff before showing him to the hangman's noose. Nebraska is not Oregon State, so continuing to pretend Oregon State results are the be all end all is, and I apologize in advance, stupid. Oregon State was at the bottom of a stacked Pac 10-12 conference, so pretending he should have had a 70 percent conference win percent is equally stupid.

 

[Archie Graham]

We should have beat BYU and Illinois. Other than that I'm not surprised about the results. Frankly, I can't believe people thought we would beat Purdue with Fyfe starting at QB. It goes to show exactly how out of touch some people are in our fan base. We have been a very average team for a few years, and now that a few playmakers are gone (i.e., Ameer, Randy, DPE) and some roster mismanagement appears, we see exactly how close we have been to the edge. Add in some key injuries and the installation of new offensive and defensive schemes and this is what we get. Riley and his staff deserve some criticism for the result this year; however, the amount of nonsense being thrown his way is laughable. It's also laughable to see how ignorant people are with the way things work in a college administrative structure. Fire everyone! Hah.

 

[HuskerDana]

Seriously Rover, I have zero idea WTF you are talking about. That put's me in the "group" that thinks you're kinda whacko.

You have to admit, reading this s**t is pretty entertaining.

 

[otismotis08]

We don't have the time to "wait and see" if HCMR can get this thing turned around. He knew what he was getting into. There are not really many promising signs out there. Even if he did get us to a "decent" record next year (say 8-4), how many years of this would be endure before it gets stale again and he retires?

Make the bold move with a younger, lifetime-committed guy who understands what it means to be a Cornhusker.

 

[HuskerBandGeek]

We don't have the time to "wait and see" if HCMR can get this thing turned around. He knew what he was getting into. There are not really many promising signs out there. Even if he did get us to a "decent" record next year (say 8-4), how many years of this would be endure before it gets stale again and he retires?

Make the bold move with a younger, lifetime-committed guy who understands what it means to be a Cornhusker.

So in your mind giving a coach a second year is wait and see? We waited and saw with Pelini, seven years no improvement and the program has flat lined. I think we can give a guy two years to install a healthy culture and get roster issues solved. We would be nuts to punt a second consecutive recruiting cycle.

 

[huskerj12]

Now we can't even expect to beat Purdue??

 

[jflores]

We don't have the time to "wait and see" if HCMR can get this thing turned around. He knew what he was getting into. There are not really many promising signs out there. Even if he did get us to a "decent" record next year (say 8-4), how many years of this would be endure before it gets stale again and he retires?

Make the bold move with a younger, lifetime-committed guy who understands what it means to be a Cornhusker.

Frost isn't going anywhere and he'd come running even if he did. I think the university would prefer someone else give him a tryout so they can be sure the last hope to the Osborne coaching tree is not another bum coordinator hire