Predictions for this season
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nope. If it was up to you how many wins will be needed this coming season for Riley to receive a contract extension?
Remember Tom's book title "More than winning"? It's really not about the wins and losses. It's more about trajectory and how things are done. If you do things right the wins and losses will sort themselves out.
Ha. Maybe I have not thought it through as much as I should. It was 5:00 AM and I was having fun speculating.
But I still think Wisky is going to be better than you think. They should have a solid defense and I don't think losing their DC will change their scheme much. At least that is what I read. I also read that their QB situation emerged in spring camp as a pleasant surprise. They do have issues on the OL but guess what? So do we. And our DL is very, very, scary thin. I think a game manager at QB for Wisky this year and a stingy defense wins them games. And I will wager that their new QB, unlike our veteran, knows what color jersey to throw the ball to.
3 to 4 losses
you are on record with 12-1 + a conference championship --- everyone hopes to hell you are correct
but if we fall short you are going to have to decide if it was:
A) poor coaching or
B) an idiotic prediction
for instance you were on record as being 95% certain we would beat Iowa, even predicting a blow-out
what happened?? -- was it poor coaching or was that just a ridiculously idiotic prediction?
Why not 14-1? Given your prediction, that would likely put us in the playoff. Why not go for it all if you're already at 12-1?
Ever the optimist, I'll go with 9-3. Losses to Oregon, tOSU, and someone else (take your pick of Wiscy, NW, Io_a).
"I'm not going to make any big, bold predictions, but I am very excited about our opportunity to play for the championship this year."
I love this comment by Riley!
I love this comment by Riley!
That feels like an 8-4 schedule to me. Ohio State is the only one I expect to lose, but there are several others where a loss wouldn't shock me.
In 2007 #1 USC was a 41-point favorite vs Stanford. Stanford ended up winning that game 24-23. I don't think USC's loss that day was because of poor coaching nor would it have been a ridiculously idiotic prediction to think USC would have won that game.
My point is that there are other reasons for an incorrect prediction than the 2 you came up with (but one of your 2 reasons could still apply).
Yeah, I agree with Beav. I think tOSU game is going to be brutal and a loss should be expected (just how bad the loss IS is the question), and I see about 2 other games on there (Oregon, then one of the Iowa, Wisconsin, and NW games) that COULD be losses. I still think 9-3 to 10-2 is well within reason given our talent level vis a vis our schedule.
completely agree ... if we go 11-2 and lose in the CCG then no one is going to have an issue with the 12-1 + conference championship prediction....
Red is on record as laying down the expectation for this coming year as 12-1 + conf championship .... 9-3, 8-4 and not even making the CCG would represent falling well, well short of expectations
12-1 is on the far extreme portion of the bell curve ... just as stating one is 95% certain that Nebraska would beat Iowa last year ....
I won't go game by game, but I feel that 8-4 to 10-2 are likely this year. I think we have a chance against OSU, a much better chance against Oregon, and will be in a dogfight in 2-3 others.
If we find QB consistency and can hold up on the defensive line, watch out! 12-0! We will find out about the QB part early when Armstrong feels the pressure against Oregon. IMO if he's poised for that one we will be in great shape for the rest of the year at QB!
If we find QB consistency and can hold up on the defensive line, watch out! 12-0! We will find out about the QB part early when Armstrong feels the pressure against Oregon. IMO if he's poised for that one we will be in great shape for the rest of the year at QB!
The season will hinge on our defense and how well that plays - If they do well we could win 10 games and the west imo. If Banker lays another egg then I would say a 6-6 or 7-5 season is in the cards. If our defense continues to give up the yards and points they have TA will then be tempted to push it on offense, which will lead to turnovers and some additional embarrassing losses
It must really burn you up that I knew Nebraska was going to dominate your mighty Hawkeyes. Iowa didn't convert a third down the whole game(0-9) against Banker! Hahahaha!
First downs... Nebraska-22 Iowa-10
Total yards... Nebraska 433 Iowa-250
Time... Nebraska- 36:06 Iowa-23:54
Iowa needed two long runs after Gerry got ejected and a pick six to even be in the game.
Enjoy last year cause Iowa won't be getting any gifts like that again.
My God shut up. NU lost. They go by score, not 3rd down conversions.
And how many posters were doing cartwheels over that loss??? One step closer to Riley getting canned so Bo can have his revenge??? Or is it one step closer to Scott getting the job??? I bet some can't wait for Sip to write another puff piece about that last staff. Oh wait... Sip old boy just did about Kaz! Did you guys cut it out and put it in your scrapbook???
And how many posters were doing cartwheels over that loss??? One step closer to Riley getting canned so Bo can have his revenge??? Or is it one step closer to Scott getting the job??? I bet some can't wait for Sip to write another puff piece about that last staff. Oh wait... Sip old boy just did about Kaz! Did you guys cut it out and put it in your scrapbook???
what will really get Riley fired is if someone who actually is involved in the hiring/firing decisions believes the drivel you are vomiting and holds him accountable when he doesn't go 12-1 with a conference championship next year
or puts him on the hot seat when some "expert" proclaims that it is 95% certain that he will beat an undefeated Iowa team with his 5-6 team
what if the AD actually held Riley accountable for achieving your ridiculous expectations ... you are actually increasing the probability that Riley and his staff are going to be put on the hot seat if they go 9-3 or 8-4
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I agree with this. Our whole season, in my opinion, hinges on the play of our revamped defensive line.
Normally I would disagree with Rover - but it was clear we out gained Iowa by a significant margin - I think this is the poster child game of what turnovers and miscues can do for you and honestly I place this game on the coaching staff not TA - seems to me if we had just done what Iowa did - Run the ball and play conservative we had a better shot at winning. As it was we never led or even threatened in a game where almost doubled their yardage. However this just shows the staff flaws and does not show well for them
Sorry. but the stats are meaningless. Iowa plays conservatively in normal conditions. When spotted with the lead they were and given field position and the probabilities of success, the coaching staff played very conservatively and allowed yards but not enough points. They did enough to win and some of that was by design by them once they had the opportunity. At the end of the year, we can all sit around the camp fire and talk about yards gained, yards given up, time of possession but someone will ruin it all by saying, but yea we went 7-5 which is what really matters isn't it. To say we dominated Iowa is a slight exaggeration. They beat us, no two ways about it and had they needed to take more chances, I am sure they could have.
On top of all of that, RR can't take himself seriously can he?
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Actually what the 2015 NU-Iowa game showed me is that Iowa was a team that could win when they didn't have their best stuff, which is a characteristic of a championship level team. Nebraska did not have that same luxury, we turn the ball over waaaaay too much.
...and TA's decision-making.
Those two factors will be "make-or-break" in many games.
You have to look at the big picture...if you are going to go with stats don't just hand pick the ones that help your argument. How many short fields did Iowa have because of the 4 turnovers? Short fields can make the yardage look worse than it really is along with first downs also, oh and also time of possession.
You are such a blotard. Anyone who isn't still on Bo's bandwagon would easily say this is a National Championship season. Stop hating on Riley with these "ifs" and "make the playoff". A true husker fan would say "win the playoff. (For those of you in idiotville, I'm obviously being sarcastic and throwing rover's crap back at him).
My prediction:
My heart says we win 10 this season and win the West. I want to believe that we learn from last season's mistakes and Tommy averages 10 passing attempts less and our defensive backs play much better from the get-go. 10 is entirely possible and quite frankly I personally expect it. It would also mean some serious, serious recruiting surges, but that's an afterthought as WINS are what matter.
My head says we only win 8 and everyone (especially Rover) blows their collective load about what an excellent job Riley did taking a 6-win team to an 8-win team.
(I think we beat Oregon either way)
This might be cheating having two, so just in case I'll go with 8-4.
I looked at last year's schedule and thought, "Wow...no reason they shouldn't be able to win any given one of these games. This might be a big year..." We all saw what happened. So I need to be shown (not told) otherwise before I'm bought into this identity of downhill running and boot action like they won't get caught up in a streak of too many pass calls against a team like Purdue. The staff needs to prove to me they know when to grind one out in boring, Iowa-like fashion by just shoving around an inferior team for 4 quarters and winning one 24-20 if they need to.
In particular, slooooooooow dooooooown on the sell job happening with the defensive line. People are actively trying to pretend it's no big deal that 4 seniors decided not to come back, like guys who make the NFL aren't that important, all these freshmen are gonna be better. Spoiler alert...they maybe will be in 2 more years, but this year they're raw.
I am excited about JP, he sounds like they found a great one. But these kids are green and young. You don't just roll the ball out there with a couple walk-ons and a bunch of redshirt freshmen and go win titles. There is talent there, but it's raw and they're thin. Catch 2-3 bad injuries on that line and it's gonna make for some LONG afternoons.
JP isn't out there trying to find JUCO linemen because everything is sunshine and puppy dogs in the trenches.
In particular, slooooooooow dooooooown on the sell job happening with the defensive line. People are actively trying to pretend it's no big deal that 4 seniors decided not to come back, like guys who make the NFL aren't that important, all these freshmen are gonna be better. Spoiler alert...they maybe will be in 2 more years, but this year they're raw.
I am excited about JP, he sounds like they found a great one. But these kids are green and young. You don't just roll the ball out there with a couple walk-ons and a bunch of redshirt freshmen and go win titles. There is talent there, but it's raw and they're thin. Catch 2-3 bad injuries on that line and it's gonna make for some LONG afternoons.
JP isn't out there trying to find JUCO linemen because everything is sunshine and puppy dogs in the trenches.
I'm riding with you. And I think the team will become just as stubburn to demand to play them on the field.
Interesting example you picked and one where you actually could argue it came down to coaching. Stanford had a first year D1A HC that had yet to make his name (as a coach that is). More importantly, his tendencies were not known...or should I say his lack of tendencies because his tendency is to throw new things at you each week. It is not crazy to say that maybe Carroll prepares his team differently if he knew (back then) what he knows about Harbaugh today. But I'd also assume that if Vegas knew just how good a coach Harbaugh was at the time they wouldn't have had them as 41 point dogs. So I'm not sure you are using the best example because unknowns like that are not exactly common.
Rewatch the game. It wasn't poorly coached by PC by any means. Booty's 4 picks is what lost it.
Iowa only had ten first downs and was 0-9 on third down. Canzeri picked up 101 of his 140 yards on three plays after Gerry gets ejected and let's not forget the two touchdowns. Now about those four pics. One gets taken back for a touchdown and do you know what happened with those other three??? Iowa has two 3 and outs and one 4 and out. Iowa didn't get yards or first downs because of a short field. The got almost doubled because the defense shut them down.
See this is why Bo was a failure. He couldn't understand how to correctly diagnose a problem when analyzing a game like Wisconsin or UCLA. That's why he'll never win a conference title. When you get into big games like that you have to be able to think on your feet and make adjustments. Now Riley is on a whole different level of coaching. We were in every game with a chance to win late. We had some growing pains but the players and coaches are on the same page now. And it's gonna show. Kickoff can't get here fast enough!
I think I get your point. And if your point is that even the best predictions are just predictions and things don't always work out like the odds say they should for a variety of rational reasons. Reasons (after the fact) that are also rational and don't mean the reasons you thought it wouldn't go that way were irrational. But I think you gave a bad example. But who cares if you gave an outlier example.
Back to the point...I think I get what the poster is saying about Red Rover's predictions and claims. If it's a shtick that is one thing. However, if he is being serious...yeah...if your predictions keep falling short maybe the way you analyze things should be questioned. The points you make should be questioned.
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Interesting... another posters says will go 11-1 and not one person even responds to that post??? They are after me and that's fine. Some want me gone because I rode Bo and his staff like a two dollar whore for years. Others are old Socialist who I regularly kicked around. It's all in a day's work.
I've been thinking about this for a while and IMO this season is really important for the future of Mike Riley. Nebraska has more returning offensive and defensive production than any other team in the Big Ten, in either division. That's even still the case after the departures of McMullen and Williams. Whether you like the QB or not, you can't dismiss the fact he's started over 40 career games and he will be in year 2 of the system with Riley and Langsdorf. The numbers for 2nd and 3rd year QBs with Riley and Langsdorf are fantastic, not just individually, but the overall improvement in record. Those are positives to view when considering Nebraska in 2016.
But, I believe the future of Mike Riley will solely be decided by 2016. He will need momentum and proof he can succeed in order to overcome what will likely be a 5 or 6 loss season in 2017 behind a massive rebuild. The schedules in 2017 and 18 are going to be much tougher than '15 and '16, and they will be replacing close to a dozen multiple year starters. Arguably 6 or 7 players from the 2016 team will also get drafted in Spring of 2017.
The other reality in play here is Nebraska boosters and fans don't subscribe to rational thought. You still have nearly a 3rd of the money folks who supported Bo and they only care about the score board. If Riley goes 6-7, then only 7-5 or 8-4, followed by another 6-7 type season, I don't believe he will be given a 4th year. I think he needs a 10+ win season to appease folks and help sell proof that the recruiting momentum will reap wins in the future.
With that said, I believe Nebraska will be 7-0 heading into Madison. How they handle back to back games at Wisconsin and Ohio State will decide their season.
The toughest game of the first 7 is vs. Oregon. That game is at home and the Ducks are replacing 4 offensive linemen, 6 of their front 7, their QB, and they are trotting out a brand new defensive scheme.
But, I believe the future of Mike Riley will solely be decided by 2016. He will need momentum and proof he can succeed in order to overcome what will likely be a 5 or 6 loss season in 2017 behind a massive rebuild. The schedules in 2017 and 18 are going to be much tougher than '15 and '16, and they will be replacing close to a dozen multiple year starters. Arguably 6 or 7 players from the 2016 team will also get drafted in Spring of 2017.
The other reality in play here is Nebraska boosters and fans don't subscribe to rational thought. You still have nearly a 3rd of the money folks who supported Bo and they only care about the score board. If Riley goes 6-7, then only 7-5 or 8-4, followed by another 6-7 type season, I don't believe he will be given a 4th year. I think he needs a 10+ win season to appease folks and help sell proof that the recruiting momentum will reap wins in the future.
With that said, I believe Nebraska will be 7-0 heading into Madison. How they handle back to back games at Wisconsin and Ohio State will decide their season.
The toughest game of the first 7 is vs. Oregon. That game is at home and the Ducks are replacing 4 offensive linemen, 6 of their front 7, their QB, and they are trotting out a brand new defensive scheme.
Actually, I was going to respond to that post, and give him a hard time. I decided not to post that cause I like the guy and didn't want to jerk his chain. You had to one up him though, and go 12-1, so you made yourself a target I think.
I could not agree more with this. Had Riley gone 9-4 or 8-5 last year he would have bought himself some time. But going 6-7, with some losses caused by boneheaded coaching decisions (BYU, Illinois, Purdue), puts much more heat on him this year. Another 5-7 season and he just might be shown the door THIS year. I doubt it, but it is a definite possibility given our fan base. Either way, another 5-7 season would kill this year's recruiting momentum and could even drive some of our current commits away as the acrimony against Riley increases.
Riley must put together a winning season this year or he is in deep trouble.
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