Did those coaches come in and take over for a "9 win coach?" Think that made things tougher for Riley?
Post-game interview...Riley really sounds like
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Did those coaches come in and take over for a "9 win coach?" Think that made things tougher for Riley?
My concern is that Tommy almost didn't even seem to care as the game winded down. He's usually very upset visually and he seems calm.
That Miami loss is no indication of slack of talent
Quite the contrary it only indicates the Miami state of mind today
If it's a case of the players not buying in, then why didn't more of them transfer after Spring Ball? They bought in enough to stay here, even after Bo told them they shouldn't, and called Eichorst a p---- with no integrity.
If they still not buying in after 11 months, that's more of a reflection of the current coach than the former coach.
If they still not buying in after 11 months, that's more of a reflection of the current coach than the former coach.
Uh, did you not see the speed difference on the field? We were lucky to get back into that game.
Yeah, He took a team that has been winning 9 games and made them into a team that has lost 5 games. I think that made it pretty easy for Riley to accomplish. I don't understand your logic. Because Nebraska has a history of winning it is a harder place to coach than a school that doesn't win. Please explain.
Our LBs, and DBs are NAIA guys. Not a single one of them could catch there slow @ss qb. My grandmother could catch him, and she is 6 feet under, God rest her soul. Those same 7 players play with no passion to tackle the QB as he is prancing down the field. It is pathetic. I was still drinking the Kool-aid until today. It is obvious that many of these kids don't care....and that is a reflection on their prior coach. We should have won this game today 35-0....easily.
I'll never really understand the logic or loyalty on this board. Lets back a proven failure who has never won and a guy whose been with the program for less than a year over kids who have proven they can win. Many of these kids we've been behind for like 7 years including recruiting years. Kids we know that can play. Maybe not 13-0 talent but much much better than 3-5 talent. Let's keep blaming them, it's probably their fault. Can't be freaking Mike Riley's fault. Mike Riley is the next coming of Bill Walsh without the "breaks" or the "right situation".
My goodness, give me a freaking break. Our kids can play football. Under many different coaches in the nation, this team could be 8-0. The schedule is there. And for those that state "give MR" time, how much time? Guy is an old man. He wasn't brought in to win in 5 years, he was brought in to win NOW!!! He's not freaking young enough to rebuild NU from the ground up.
My goodness, give me a freaking break. Our kids can play football. Under many different coaches in the nation, this team could be 8-0. The schedule is there. And for those that state "give MR" time, how much time? Guy is an old man. He wasn't brought in to win in 5 years, he was brought in to win NOW!!! He's not freaking young enough to rebuild NU from the ground up.
Did the players want Bo gone? Did the players think it was right to fire Bo? We're they pissed off?
None of those other coaches faced that. Those coaches were most likely viewed as a new hope that things would get better.
Sorry, but that makes no sense to me. Football is not rocket science. Riley is not teaching the kids a new method of playing that makes it impossible for them to throw, catch, tackle and block. The young men need to show some pride and go out there and do their jobs. The players simply are not getting the job done. Riley can't throw it, catch it or make tackles. Although, I am pretty sure he is faster than our linebackers.
So your blaming the players and BO for the 3-5 record? Cause the players don't want to win, right? Do you think all of those huskers are just spiteful SOBs?
What exactly do you think is the coaches job? There isn't some super secret scheme that someone has developed and only that coach knows it and can run it. The coaches job is to make sure that the players can throw, catch, run, block and make tackles.
Spinner I liked what you wrote. I just listened To Mike's press conference. I wonder how many times the Oregon State fans heard the very same thing. I told you all last summer that when things went bad, Mike would cross his arms and look down at the ground. Have you guys got tired of that look yet? It's laughable that people write give Mike 3-4 years and he will turn it around. (I thought he was hired to take us to the next step) By that time he will be at his beach house on the Oregon coast, watching the fire and smiling as he mumbles "Suckers" whenever there is mention of Nebraska on the TV. WE PAID for his RETIREMENT!!!
Sorry, since I'm a "moron" I need you to elaborate more please on your previous responses about how the other first year coaches didn't have the issues MR had. Because it sure reads like you are stating that MR is in a no win situation and that the players aren't behind him. But forgive me, I'm a "moron" but it sure reads like that.
Thanks for the response. I honestly didn't know how to. That's like saying, "why have generals in war time? They don't fight wars" or "why do publicly traded companies have CEO's? They don't sell the products."
Honest question for those who say we have inferior talent - would you switch rosters with Northwestern this year?
Or, say Fitzgerald was coaching Nebraska this year, and Riley was coaching Northwestern this year, do you think the outcomes would have been the same?
I still don't buy the argument the program was in such bad shape, that any coach would have a losing record here, especially with the soft schedule we've had.
Or, say Fitzgerald was coaching Nebraska this year, and Riley was coaching Northwestern this year, do you think the outcomes would have been the same?
I still don't buy the argument the program was in such bad shape, that any coach would have a losing record here, especially with the soft schedule we've had.
So if the belief is tha players aren't buying in then you have 3 choices imo.
1. Do nothing and wait until they graduate.
2. Play lesser talented players that are trying and do care and deal with the results.
3. Boot the malcontents off the team and deal with the consequences.
I would prefer options 2 or 3 rather than playing anyone that hasn't bought in. The season is shot already so the short term hit is not as extreme now as it would've been around the Miami game. Just my 2 cents.
1. Do nothing and wait until they graduate.
2. Play lesser talented players that are trying and do care and deal with the results.
3. Boot the malcontents off the team and deal with the consequences.
I would prefer options 2 or 3 rather than playing anyone that hasn't bought in. The season is shot already so the short term hit is not as extreme now as it would've been around the Miami game. Just my 2 cents.
The coaches put the players in a position to throw, catch, run, block and tackle.....and then the players must make the plays on the field. There were 11 players who could have made a play to stop that sloooooowww QB as he rumbled for 65 yards. How is that the coaches fault? Players make plays. I admit that I don't like the offensive play calling, but the coach is hamstrung with Tommy's tiny skill set, but the defense is poor because of a lack of talent and it is becoming really obvious that desire is not there either. That QB had 171 yards rushing on the season. He nearly ran for that today....and it wasn't because of any blocking.
Frankly, there isn't much difference in talent. Lowry was the best defensive player on the field today, and the Northwestern DL held their own. NU (the real NU) had the better defensive backfield, IMO. JJackson didn't gain many yards today because our OL talent is not very good, but he is a special RB. Solomon Vault (a UNL recruit) is very good. Vitale is a damn good TE/HB with good hands (he caught the long pass for a TD). Our OL needs serious work, but then so does UNL. Thorson is a work in progress, but he's got talent (strong arm, 4.6 speed, 4*), will only get better (if our horrid OL gets better) over the next three years. Where you're clearly better than us is at WR, but UNL kept shooting themselves in the foot with drops.
My two cents worth: I don't think Riley is a strong enough leader. A great guy, wants everyone to like him - players, asst coaches, media, opposing coaches (and they love him), but I don't think he is assertive enough to lead this team to greatness.
Well, neither does Northwestern, but yet we make them look that way. Just saying.
Riley is an above average person, but a below average coach. He has turned his below average coaching into a life-long career due to his likability. Good on him. He should write a book.
It called loyalty and comrade, get it.
Had Bo walked away from Nebraska on his own, to the players, he abandoned them. But Bo was let go. Good or bad, like it or not, there is a bond there and if you expect under those circumstances for there to be 100% buy in then you've never been in a similar situation.
Have you ever in your life had a coach, teacher, boss, leader etc that you felt was unfairly treated? Well if you don't expect that some players haven't got over the fact Bo if gone, not by his choosing, and not by their liking, then you don't understand human beings.
Narducci replaced Chryst who left Pitt. The Pitt players didn't resent Narducci for replacing Chryst.
McElwain, Harbaugh, and Herman replaced underachieving coaches on talented teams. Harbaugh was the hot name NFL coach who made it to the superbowl, and Herman was the OC of the first team with win the playoff. I dont in any of those situations see near the buy in problem on those teams that Riley faced.
I made no claims that it was Bo's fault. I pointed out there are human psyche issues that would be tough for anyone short of Vince Lombardi to overcome.
Got it now?
If they don't know how to catch, run, block and tackle by the time they make it to a DI football team, then they need to leave, NOW. This isn't Pop Warner football. These coaches job is not to teach these so called experienced players the basics. They should already know that. It is ridiculous that we have players that lack such basic mechanics. You can criticize these coaches all you want, but these players flat out aren't very good and they certainly play like they could give a flying you know what if they even play. Quite frankly, I'm tired of seeing their piss poor attitudes on the field.
Sounds great but I am not buying it. Maybe losing 1 or 2 games like we have you could chalk it up to the luck of draw. 5 losses just affirms what I have thought all along and I live Pac 12 country. Mike Riley is just a mediocre coach
Bingo...where are we grossly underachieving? We have some nice talent at a few skill positions and DT. Other than that either average, or below, with little experience, IMO. Calling for new coach's head in year one? Sometimes, I wish the microwave oven had never been invented.
Yep he was a .540 coach at at .200 program for the 24 years prior to his arrival.
He might be a mediocre coach, but he's going to be ours for a few years. Bitching about it ain't going to do anything unless you have about 8 figures to donate to the athletic program.
I agree to an extent. But when you are dead last in FBS in pass defense, that is coaching. We haven't even played a tough schedule. I can't believe that 126 teams have more talent on defense than we do.
I absolutely agree on offense. I love Armstrong and his spirit, but let's face it, he's never going to take us to the next level. Our line gets pushed around, and that doesn't help, but he's average on his best day and today wasn't his best day.
I agree... The coaches deserve our support, but aren't exempt from criticism either when it is warranted. Today was frustrating in so many ways. I have been giving the offensive coaches a pass for the most part, maybe because I missed the two worst games offensively this season, Illinois and Wisconsin. But seeing this today I just didn't understand why, when Tommy was struggling in the first half to throw effectively, we didn't run more. I get the balance thing, but we seemed to run the ball pretty well in the first half. When NW shut it down in the second half, Tommy had to pass. I was fine with that. I was puzzled with the first half at times...
Defensively, I am just sick at how easy it is for teams to always find the open receiver (seems like it's a pick 'em, as many are open). I have heard many different theories on this, and still want very badly to support the coaches, but today against a VERY bad NW team, their QB looked awfully good in the second half. Fortunately, their wide receivers have trouble catching the ball as well.
I still believe talent is an issue for this team, but as others have stated, even with the lack of talent we have, we shouldn't be 3-5. I'm supporting the coaches, but it is getting harder to defend some of the problems going forward. Will things get better? I still think we will have a good recruiting class, so I hope things improve dramatically. It will need to be a dramatic improvement, or the natives will become even more restless, which is saying someting.
We all were embarrassed by Bo? Agreed. We all were unhappy with Watson, then Beck's playing calling? Agreed We had all grown tired of getting blown out in games by the likes of Wisconsin. Agreed I am agreeing with everyone that Bo and staff weren't very good coaches. Then why can a bad staff win 9 games every year with the same players people on this board write are not good enough win for Mike Riley and his staff?
You are talking about two plays. Guess what, no matter how good you are the other team is going to make some plays. Those two plays didn't lose us the game. We don't know how to win games. These coaches don't know how to win games.
LOL. This isn't the NFL. College football is all about developing players not relying on high school coaches to do your job for you. That is the mentality that has plagued this program since the turn of the century.
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