POB

[waterfield123]

Ameer was one of the top 5 running backs of all time. He is the basically the sole reason we were over .500 the last couple years....and he is gone.

Ameer was a weapon Bo utilized in an efficient manner to win football games. Give him credit.

This year, we have a seasoned QB, a stable of WR, and a pretty deep looking OL. All on paper. And I think our RB are better than advertised.

We should be better, IMO. Good enough to win these close games, not choke them away.

 

[waterfield123]

Come on. It might not have been the right call, but if they would have thrown an incompletion and given Whisky another 30 seconds and won you would be hammering them for that too.

Play action works when the other team is expecting a running play. Wake up.

 

[Harry Caray]

Riley the QB guru can't get TA to stop throwing off of his back foot. Even the announcers kept giving him crap about it. And we expect he's going to have a true-freshman QB ready to come in and dominate the Big Ten?

 

[crinin the thane]

Not bashing the kid, he plays hard and was brought here, but this isn't pee wee league. He's not a QB. There are plays to be made all over the field and he just can't execute them.

The coaches are not playing to his strengths, contrary to the preseason propaganda. Not putting TA into a position to succeed. Yes the play calling is idiotic, given the make up of the team.

 

[Mr.Scary13]

The coaches are not playing to his strengths, contrary to the preseason propaganda. Not putting TA into a position to succeed. Yes the play calling is idiotic, given the make up of the team.

Name his strengths....

 

[HuskerO]

Not bashing the kid, he plays hard and was brought here, but this isn't pee wee league. He's not a QB. There are plays to be made all over the field and he just can't execute them.

Not bashing him yet calling him incompetent.... I do agree with you 100% though on your last posts.

 

[crinin the thane]

Name his strengths....

Well let's see. He is a playmaker with his feet. How many plays has he made with his feet this year alone. Remember the option ala Michigan 2013 to win the game. He could be a weapon if used appropriately. Your disdain sucks the intellect out of your head.

 

[barney44]

One thing is consistent and that is some recruit who is supposed to show up and save the day..

We've been waiting for quit some time now, our savior has yet to arrive..

 

[Mr.Scary13]

Not bashing him yet calling him incompetent.... I do agree with you 100% though on your last posts.

Stand by it. As a QB, he's incompetent. He can't do basic things QB's learn in high school and younger. No doubt, he's had zero coaching since arriving at Nebraska, but he is what he is now and it's not changing. Can't wait to get some actual QB's here and not athletes or projects.

 

[Mr.Scary13]

Well let's see. He is a playmaker with his feet. How many plays has he made with his feet this year alone. Remember the option ala Michigan 2013 to win the game. He could be a weapon if used appropriately. Your disdain sucks the intellect out of your head.

So your answer is to have Tommy and Nebraska just line up and run the ball straight time... got it. News flash, this team can't run the ball. Nice recipe to get shut out on a regular basis.

 

[planored]

We went 20 yrs before Tommie showed up

 

[schuele]

Well let's see. He is a playmaker with his feet. How many plays has he made with his feet this year alone. Remember the option ala Michigan 2013 to win the game. He could be a weapon if used appropriately. Your disdain sucks the intellect out of your head.

Yeah I don't quite follow the argument, "There's nothing wrong with our play-calling, we're just calling a lot of plays that our QB can't execute."

 

[crinin the thane]

Yeah I don't quite follow the argument, "There's nothing wrong with our play-calling, we're just calling a lot of plays that our QB can't execute."

Let me spell it out. If you take an option quarterback and try to convert him into a drop back passer, it may not work out so well. Complicated?

 

[planored]

Tommy was never an option QB in HS

 

[schuele]

Let me spell it out. If you take an option quarterback and try to convert him into a drop back passer, it may not work out so well. Complicated?

I was agreeing with your point, actually.

I'm not arguing that NU go back to the option, or run the ball 80 percent of the time. But there are way too many low-percentage pass plays being called that put them in 3rd-and-long and 3rd-and-medium situations that they can't convert.

 

[Harry Caray]

TA has resembled '04 Joe Dailey the last few games.

The strange thing is, we seemed to run a lot of spread read option stuff in the Spring Game, so I had some optimism that our staff would ease the transition this year and not try to fit square pegs into round holes.

 

[crinin the thane]

I was agreeing with your point, actually.

I'm not arguing that NU go back to the option, or run the ball 80 percent of the time. But there are way to many low-percentage pass plays being called that put them in 3rd-and-long and 3rd-and-medium situations that they can't convert.

Agreed!!

 

[Mr.Scary13]

I was agreeing with your point, actually.

I'm not arguing that NU go back to the option, or run the ball 80 percent of the time. But there are way to many low-percentage pass plays being called that put them in 3rd-and-long and 3rd-and-medium situations that they can't convert.

You don't understand basic football. Tommy is the one responsible for the low percentage passes. These plays have multiple routes and Tommy more times than not either locks on to one guy or just heaves the ball deep. Try using dvr sometime and watch how many times guys are wide open undeneath and Tommy heaves the ball 40 yards down field or into double coverage. He's also extremely late with the ball allowing coverage to get on the wideouts.

 

[crinin the thane]

You don't understand basic football. Tommy is the one responsible for the low percentage passes. These plays have multiple routes and Tommy more times than not either locks on to one guy or just heaves the ball deep. Try using dvr sometime and watch how many times guys are wide open undeneath and Tommy heaves the ball 40 yards down field or into double coverage. He's also extremely late with the ball allowing coverage to get on the wideouts.

So what are the coaches teaching him, week after week I thought Langsdorf was, like, a quarterback whisperer. If he is constantly not putting the ball where it is intended or if he is uneducable, why is he still the starter?

 

[schuele]

I'm not suggesting Armstrong isn't part of the problem. But how long do you stick with a game plan that depends almost entirely on his ability to make good decisions in the pocket, when he doesn't make good decisions in the pocket?

You repeatedly squeal at people who want to run the ball more, because NU isn't good at running the ball. So why should they stay with this game plan, when they aren't good at running it either?

 

[Mr.Scary13]

So what are the coaches teaching him, week after week I thought Langsdorf was, like, a quarterback whisperer. If he is constantly not putting the ball where it is intended or if he is uneducable, why is he still the starter?

The point is He's not a QB and you can't change him now. He is what he is. The problem is, there aren't any other QB's on the roster either. The fact that the team can't just line up and pound the ball only magnifies the problem.

 

[Mr.Scary13]

I'm not suggesting Armstrong isn't part of the problem. But how long do you stick with a game plan that depends almost entirely on his ability to make good decisions in the pocket, when he doesn't make good decisions in the pocket?

You repeatedly squeal at people who want to run the ball more, because NU isn't good at running the ball. So why should they stay with this game plan, when they aren't good at running it either?

A large % of the pass plays are designed for TA to not be in the pocket for this very reason. They are doing everything they can for him to succeed, but you can't magically turn him into a QB in a few months.

 

[schuele]

A large % of the pass plays are designed for TA to not be in the pocket for this very reason. They are doing everything they can for him to succeed, but you can't magically turn him into a QB in a few months.

I really don't disagree with your assessment of the QB situation. But the staff is still running an offense that's way too dependent on Armstrong making plays that he can't consistently make. When you can't put teams like Southern Miss and Illinois away despite numerous opportunities to do so, how do they expect that game plan to work as the competition gets better?

 

[HuskerLegion]

The coaches are not playing to his strengths, contrary to the preseason propaganda. Not putting TA into a position to succeed. Yes the play calling is idiotic, given the make up of the team.

This is exactly right. Who expected TA to turn into Joe Montana? It is the epitome of square peg round hole.
We were told the staff would utilize the players strengths. Tommy is not a great pocket passer he has to run the ball and so do the backs to take some pressure off of him in the passing game. He isn't great at going through progressions either. He is a play maker but not as much of one in this style of offense. So where does the blame fall? Is it on Tommy for being what he is? ......

 

[HuskerLegion]

Name his strengths....

Qb run game and throwing out on the edge.

 

[HuskerLegion]

I really don't disagree with your assessment of the QB situation. But the staff is still running an offense that's way too dependent on Armstrong making plays that he can't consistently make. When you can't put teams like Southern Miss and Illinois away despite numerous opportunities to do so, how do they expect that game plan to work as the competition gets better?

You know this one is a head scratcher maybe Mr.scary knows.

 

[Mr.Scary13]

I really don't disagree with your assessment of the QB situation. But the staff is still running an offense that's way too dependent on Armstrong making plays that he can't consistently make. When you can't put teams like Southern Miss and Illinois away despite numerous opportunities to do so, how do they expect that game plan to work as the competition gets better?

Again, this team can't line up and pound the ball. There really is no other choice.

 

[HuskerLegion]

Again, this team can't line up and pound the ball. There really is no other choice.

Well they can't throw it either so whats next?

 

[Mr.Scary13]

You know this one is a head scratcher maybe Mr.scary knows.

Actually it's not. The answer arrives in the next recruiting class. Hopefully a juco will be on board too.

 

[Mr.Scary13]

Well they can't throw it either so whats next?

If it were me I'd go full blown on playing freshman and Tommy would go to the pine and I'd try and start developing one of the young QB's (Bush or Darlington). Of course they would be crucified for it.

 

[HuskerLegion]

Actually it's not. The answer arrives in the next recruiting class. Hopefully a juco will be on board too.

Look I hope POB does well also but were talking about a true freshman.

 

[newAD]

Oregon St has 23 players listed on NFL teams as of Monday, Neb 27 as of mid Sept. OSU has 3 QB's on NFL rosters pretty sure you know the number of Huskers QB's in NFL.

Yea, someone name the last Nebraska QB to take a snap in the NFL. If you aren't old enough to remember the early 80s, you won't know the answer.

 

[HuskerLegion]

If it were me I'd go full blown on playing freshman and Tommy would go to the pine and I'd try and start developing one of the young QB's (Bush or Darlington). Of course they would be crucified for it.

They wouldn't be crucified so much for it if they had said that was the plan from the start. Instead they said they would play to the players strengths and they aren't doing that.

 

[newAD]

TA has resembled '04 Joe Dailey the last few games.

The strange thing is, we seemed to run a lot of spread read option stuff in the Spring Game, so I had some optimism that our staff would ease the transition this year and not try to fit square pegs into round holes.

The only good thing is TA doesn't throw to the opposition as much.

 

[schuele]

If it were me I'd go full blown on playing freshman and Tommy would go to the pine and I'd try and start developing one of the young QB's (Bush or Darlington). Of course they would be crucified for it.

Well if that's what you are arguing for, that's fine. But if the staff is going to stick with the existing personnel, they need a more intelligent mix of run and pass that emphasizes moving the chains.

Today, for example, they pissed away a first-and-five near midfield on a possession that absolutely should have produced points. They also got six yards on first down from their own one-yard line, then threw two incompletions and punted from the shadow of their own goal post. You don't have to be a line-up-and-pound-it team to keep those drives alive, but you do have to be mildly interested in running the ball.

 

[suhnami]

Tommy was never an option QB in HS

Well he sure as hell wasn't a pro-style QB.

 

[suhnami]

Yea, someone name the last Nebraska QB to take a snap in the NFL. If you aren't old enough to remember the early 80s, you won't know the answer.

Eric Crouch. Edit: That's wrong, it's Jamal Lord.

 

[ctscts]

Well they can't throw it either so whats next?

Punt?

 

[ctscts]

Well if that's what you are arguing for, that's fine. But if the staff is going to stick with the existing personnel, they need a more intelligent mix of run and pass that emphasizes moving the chains.

Today, for example, they pissed away a first-and-five near midfield on a possession that absolutely should have produced points. They also got six yards on first down from their own one-yard line, then threw two incompletions and punted from the shadow of their own goal post. You don't have to be a line-up-and-pound-it team to keep those drives alive, but you do have to be mildly interested in running the ball.

You mean the 2 incompletes that TA missed a simple swing pass that would have resulted in a 1st down or close to it? If you cant rely on your QB to complete that pass it tends to handcuff the O.

 

[schuele]

You mean the 2 incompletes that TA missed a simple swing pass that would have resulted in a 1st down or close to it? If you cant rely on your QB to complete that pass it tends to handcuff the O.

Yes there were some passes in those series that seem simple for a QB to execute. But for this QB, they aren't. I don't see that suddenly changing.