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Ot: Shotgun question

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Unless you know the guy is for sure there to murder you, I'd start with just yelling at them that you know they're in there, to get out, and that you're calling the cops. Burglars don't want to encounter you or anyone else if they can help it. If they're bent on coming through the door, do what you gotta do.

I'll still go shotgun full of birdshot if I have to fire inside a house. Most homes you don't have anywhere that they'd be at a range of more than about 15'. You'd do plenty with some #6 from 5 yards.

Was watching "Hacking the System" on Netflix, not a very good show but they did an interesting series on burglaries. Most of them don't happen late at night, if they're pros they'll watch and learn when you're not home, and most burglaries happen during daylight hours. Showed how they can bump a lock, how parking your car in the driveway instead of the garage is just a huge "HEY THIS IS WHEN I'M NOT HOME" billboard, where most people keep certain crucial items like car keys, cash, etc.

You are right about being smart about not telegraphing that you aren't home. I'm very cognizant of that, or at least try to be. And you are right about most burglaries not occurring at night as well. That being the case is why a nighttime burglary is a scary prospect. If someone is breaking into a house at night, when they know someone is likely to be home, they likely have more than burglary on their mind. That is even more so the case for me, working in the correctional system and all, never know who I might have pissed off.

Some people will say you shouldn't yell, I think it depends on the situation. I might, but you better bet I'll have a light on them and some kind of firearm, handgun, shotgun, or rifle, at the ready when I do. I'm not one of those people that is eager to use a gun, quite the contrary I hope I never have to. But I prefer to have thought through the scenarios before they happen.
 
You are right about being smart about not telegraphing that you aren't home. I'm very cognizant of that, or at least try to be. And you are right about most burglaries not occurring at night as well. That being the case is why a nighttime burglary is a scary prospect. If someone is breaking into a house at night, when they know someone is likely to be home, they likely have more than burglary on their mind. That is even more so the case for me, working in the correctional system and all, never know who I might have pissed off.

Some people will say you shouldn't yell, I think it depends on the situation. I might, but you better bet I'll have a light on them and some kind of firearm, handgun, shotgun, or rifle, at the ready when I do. I'm not one of those people that is eager to use a gun, quite the contrary I hope I never have to. But I prefer to have thought through the scenarios before they happen.
Yeah sadly some people don't take into consideration why someone may choose to have a firearm as backup tonprotect their family. But oh well. I personally don't believe in having a light on them or laser sights. Then they know where I am.
 
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Yeah sadly some people don't take into consideration why someone may choose to have a firearm as backup tonprotect their family. But oh well. I personally don't believe in having a light on them or laser sights. Then they know where I am.

Agreed. Also, I prefer the clean, classic lines of a semi-auto, sans lights or rails.
 
You are right about being smart about not telegraphing that you aren't home. I'm very cognizant of that, or at least try to be. And you are right about most burglaries not occurring at night as well. That being the case is why a nighttime burglary is a scary prospect. If someone is breaking into a house at night, when they know someone is likely to be home, they likely have more than burglary on their mind. That is even more so the case for me, working in the correctional system and all, never know who I might have pissed off.

Some people will say you shouldn't yell, I think it depends on the situation. I might, but you better bet I'll have a light on them and some kind of firearm, handgun, shotgun, or rifle, at the ready when I do. I'm not one of those people that is eager to use a gun, quite the contrary I hope I never have to. But I prefer to have thought through the scenarios before they happen.
I'm not under the illusion that anyone is going to read this thread and say, "Oh, you're right! I'm gonna go hand my guns over at the police station and never own one again!" What I don't like is when people act like having a gun is the one-and-only solution they need against home invasion. It's arguably the worst strategy you could have, because you're forfeiting so many other great deterrents and basically saying, "I'm gonna take my chances in my first ever shootout."

From a tactical perspective, it's just incredibly sloppy. And here's the bigger problem:

Any of you boys ever sneak over to your girlfriend's place after her parents went to bed? Some sad stories out there of dads killing their daughter's boyfriend because somebody thought there was a strange guy in the house. Dad shows up, the kids panic, guy tries to hide, daughter starts lying because she's scared shitless that dad is pumped full of adrenaline with a gun in his hand, boyfriend makes some kind of move and POP, lights out. I'm not making that up, you can google the news stories.

Or how'd you like to catch your son climbing back in the window, trying to sneak back in because he wasn't supposed to be out, and he assumes you're a burglar breaking in and puts a few slugs center mass? Ever sneak out of your parents' house? Lord knows I did.
 
I'm not under the illusion that anyone is going to read this thread and say, "Oh, you're right! I'm gonna go hand my guns over at the police station and never own one again!" What I don't like is when people act like having a gun is the one-and-only solution they need against home invasion. It's arguably the worst strategy you could have, because you're forfeiting so many other great deterrents and basically saying, "I'm gonna take my chances in my first ever shootout."

From a tactical perspective, it's just incredibly sloppy. And here's the bigger problem:

Any of you boys ever sneak over to your girlfriend's place after her parents went to bed? Some sad stories out there of dads killing their daughter's boyfriend because somebody thought there was a strange guy in the house. Dad shows up, the kids panic, guy tries to hide, daughter starts lying because she's scared shitless that dad is pumped full of adrenaline with a gun in his hand, boyfriend makes some kind of move and POP, lights out. I'm not making that up, you can google the news stories.

Or how'd you like to catch your son climbing back in the window, trying to sneak back in because he wasn't supposed to be out, and he assumes you're a burglar breaking in and puts a few slugs center mass? Ever sneak out of your parents' house? Lord knows I did.
They should be charged. If you don't know your target, you don't pull the trigger. Simple really.
 
I'm not under the illusion that anyone is going to read this thread and say, "Oh, you're right! I'm gonna go hand my guns over at the police station and never own one again!" What I don't like is when people act like having a gun is the one-and-only solution they need against home invasion. It's arguably the worst strategy you could have, because you're forfeiting so many other great deterrents and basically saying, "I'm gonna take my chances in my first ever shootout."

From a tactical perspective, it's just incredibly sloppy. And here's the bigger problem:

Any of you boys ever sneak over to your girlfriend's place after her parents went to bed? Some sad stories out there of dads killing their daughter's boyfriend because somebody thought there was a strange guy in the house. Dad shows up, the kids panic, guy tries to hide, daughter starts lying because she's scared shitless that dad is pumped full of adrenaline with a gun in his hand, boyfriend makes some kind of move and POP, lights out. I'm not making that up, you can google the news stories.

Or how'd you like to catch your son climbing back in the window, trying to sneak back in because he wasn't supposed to be out, and he assumes you're a burglar breaking in and puts a few slugs center mass? Ever sneak out of your parents' house? Lord knows I did.
The boyfriend thing almost happened to me. I was a little drunk, senior in high school. I thought I was being so quiet. I went in through the garage, she had left the door open for me. We had been fighting it was time for some makeup love. I walked in and slowly closed the door, without a sound....I thought. As I turn around the light comes on, her dad is standing there, in his tighty whities, with a glock pointed at me about fifteen feet away. He quickly realized who it was and lowered his weapon. He gave me this look and without a sound turned around and headed back towards his room. When he got to the hallway, he stopped, lifted his leg and ripped the manliest fart I've ever heard. Then, he just went to bed. Never said a damn word. I just stood there, wasn't sure what to do. I figured I almost died, I deserved some love and headed downstairs.
 
The boyfriend thing almost happened to me. I was a little drunk, senior in high school. I thought I was being so quiet. I went in through the garage, she had left the door open for me. We had been fighting it was time for some makeup love. I walked in and slowly closed the door, without a sound....I thought. As I turn around the light comes on, her dad is standing there, in his tighty whities, with a glock pointed at me about fifteen feet away. He quickly realized who it was and lowered his weapon. He gave me this look and without a sound turned around and headed back towards his room. When he got to the hallway, he stopped, lifted his leg and ripped the manliest fart I've ever heard. Then, he just went to bed. Never said a damn word. I just stood there, wasn't sure what to do. I figured I almost died, I deserved some love and headed downstairs.
Hah, exactly. Not even the threat of death is strong enough to stop a teenager from trying to dip his wick.
 
I'm not under the illusion that anyone is going to read this thread and say, "Oh, you're right! I'm gonna go hand my guns over at the police station and never own one again!" What I don't like is when people act like having a gun is the one-and-only solution they need against home invasion. It's arguably the worst strategy you could have, because you're forfeiting so many other great deterrents and basically saying, "I'm gonna take my chances in my first ever shootout."

From a tactical perspective, it's just incredibly sloppy. And here's the bigger problem:

Any of you boys ever sneak over to your girlfriend's place after her parents went to bed? Some sad stories out there of dads killing their daughter's boyfriend because somebody thought there was a strange guy in the house. Dad shows up, the kids panic, guy tries to hide, daughter starts lying because she's scared shitless that dad is pumped full of adrenaline with a gun in his hand, boyfriend makes some kind of move and POP, lights out. I'm not making that up, you can google the news stories.

Or how'd you like to catch your son climbing back in the window, trying to sneak back in because he wasn't supposed to be out, and he assumes you're a burglar breaking in and puts a few slugs center mass? Ever sneak out of your parents' house? Lord knows I did.

Right. Any good low-light defense class will teach that you do not shoot unless you know exactly what the target is. There's a reason I have a light mounted to or available to use with almost every firearm I might use in defense of me or others in my house. I still need to mount one to my shotgun.
 
Right. Any good low-light defense class will teach that you do not shoot unless you know exactly what the target is. There's a reason I have a light mounted to or available to use with almost every firearm I might use in defense of me or others in my house. I still need to mount one to my shotgun.
I have a magnetic-mounted flashlight on my Mossberg. You can easily pull it off without tools. It's not perfect because it could shift around after firing, but you'll at least have a well-illuminated first shot...the most important one.
 
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