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ot: nfl's waning interest (nypost article)...

New demographics in this country.. it would not surprise me to see 'football' (soccer) overtake the nfl eventually.
 
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One of football's problems - though less so for the NFL than for college - is that the games have become interminably long. When there's a game I really want to watch, I go to the gym and watch the first half while I'm there. Then if it's a close game, I'll go home and watch the second half. At least that way I didn't sit on the sofa for 4 solid hours.
 
A 60 min game takes 3+ hours, hmmm. I have always said when the people stop watching go the NFL will be hurt. The main reason is without tv the money is not there in particular for the players risk. People say baseball is weak because of tv, what they miss is 70-80m a yr go to the games, NFL doesn't have that, not even close. Look at Cowboys they prob bring in <1m fans whereas the Rangers have 3m fans a yr. that is a lot of differnce in concessions etc.
 
Virtually everybody I know lost much of their enthusiasm for watching NFL football this year exactly when the anthem protests started. IF they don't think that has something to do with it they're in denial.
Same with their position on transgender bathrooms or guns or confederate flag or Redskins. There are a lot of people who love football and don't want to hear PC garbage from the NFL.
 
Until the powers to be make the players stand for the anthem, I will NOT watch another game. It is insufferable enough to have to sit through all the commercials (Kick off, 3 plays and out, punt, 4-5 commercials; score TD on opponents next possession PAT, 4-5 commercials, KO, 4-5 commercials, back to action) The NFL is becoming their own worst enemy, they need to re-evaluate their priorities fast and listen to their fan base. College football is getting there extremely fast.
 
I've been less and less interested in the NFL as the years have gone by. I don't give a crap about the anthem protests (I don't think they should play it at sporting events not involving a service academy to begin with.) Other people are bothered by it, and that's their right, but patriotic correctness makes as little sense to me as political correctness. My problem with the NFL is that it seems to take over the entire sports year. How many mock drafts do we really need? How many shows about the NFL do we have to endure during the second half of the NBA season and the first part of MLB? Furthermore, I have a hard time stomaching a league where the majority of the owners are eager to fleece taxpayers for stadiums when they're pulling in money hand over fist. The noxious overexposure, the homogenized, boring product, the lack of energy or personality, the overabundance of commercials, the average fan now caring more about their fantasy players than what their actual team is doing, it's just not fun to follow.
 
I think it's mainly the anthem protests. In a year where the news was 90% politics, I was really looking forward to to just watching some football, but the league has decided to become a bunch of Social Justice Warrior anti-Americans. Also, the fact that with the exception of the Cowboys, the traditional powers suck. Green Bay is garbage, Pittsburgh, can't get out of their own way. Peyton retired, Brady was suspended. It has not been a good year for the NFL.
 
Virtually everybody I know lost much of their enthusiasm for watching NFL football this year exactly when the anthem protests started. IF they don't think that has something to do with it they're in denial.


They may be true for some i guess but not me. Whether you lost interest or enthusiasm when the protest began depends on which side of the argument you agreed with imo. Most of my friends didnt have a problem with that aspect at all and most appreciated it. So idk take that fwiw.

As far as myself my interest level has gradually gone down due to rule changes(safety) for the most part. As well as some of the bogus things these guys get flagged for while celebrating in the end zone etc. The targeting,roughing calls are the worse. The game i watch today just seems less and less like the game i fell in love with as a kid . Thats one of the main reasons i dont watch as i used too.

Now when there is a big matchup between high level teams or whenever my Steelers play I watch. BUT anything e;se i just take a peak here and there/

I understand what the guys are TRYING to do for the game. But honestly some of the stuff on the field for me is hard to watch sometimes. Due.to new rules and referees controlling or should i say taking over games with what Id call ill advised,unnecessary whistles.


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Its simple for me and a lot of people i know...the NFL thinks of itself as a political machine now. Its not jist the anthem protests although for me it was the straw that broke the camels back. That worm bob costas made me decide no more sunday night football on nbc. Every day there are discussions about race in the nfl as if it matters. There are people that akin the NFL to slavery, my goodness. Constant bitching about white owners and coaches. a commisioner who is political.
Its the same with espn and sadly sports illustrated. They must think what they do isnt important enough or that they themselves are important and everyone cares about their views on politics. We want sports!
I didnt read this article but another tried to blAme lower rAtings on concussions. Give me a break. Same article didnt mention protests. That itself is a perfect example of why the NFL is down...and another example of media trying to project their views onto readers instead of actually being honest and figuring it out. Learned nothing from the election, evidently.
And it aint soccer, hispanics love the NFL in case you havent noticed.
 
When the Seattle Seahawks came out of the tunnel last year with their "hands up don't shoot" poses, I was out. Right then and there I thought to myself I have better things to do than support that crap. Final nail in the coffin for me was Kap. Anyone who doesn't think politics bleeding over into the NFL doesn't have something to do with the declining interest in the NFL is just flat out wrong. NFL players by and large, and yes I know there are exceptions, are seen as sympathetic to the BLM movement and most people are turned off by it. I still love me some Chiefs, but I don't even watch them as much anymore.
 
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One of football's problems - though less so for the NFL than for college - is that the games have become interminably long. When there's a game I really want to watch, I go to the gym and watch the first half while I'm there. Then if it's a close game, I'll go home and watch the second half. At least that way I didn't sit on the sofa for 4 solid hours.
I agree when it comes to watching games other than your team. Now, it can be a 11am-2am affair.
 
Agree with the above. The anthem thing wasn't really that big of a deal to me -- all by itself -- but it's just a slow steady drip of the NFL shoving everything but football out there. Whether it's the owners, the execs, or the players.

I used to watch football as kind of one of the few places left where someone wasn't hitting me over the head about politics or race or women's issues or fill in the blank. Not that I don't care about these things but really I'm pretty saturated with them the rest of the week.

But you really can't anymore How many games this year have we had an announcer counting and summarizing which players are sitting and which players are standing, and speculating as to why......... And I think many people have had their fill of it.
 
Totally agree with a lot of the posts above. It's a combination of a lot of things. The protests turn me and a lot of other people off, as did the "hands up" thing, which I think was the St. Louis Rams, even thought it was proven not to occur in Ferguson. But it's not just that. Players with choreographed celebrations for making routine tackles when their team is down 28-0, stupid penalties and total lack of discipline. I know the refs miss some calls but a lot of the calls they do make are obvious. They have to call them. Players need to clean themselves up on that issue. Lack of fundamentals. The list goes on and on. I will still watch my Packers but that's about it. Their attendance and ratings will continue to decline. Once people find other things to do on Sunday, it's very hard to get them back.
 
People want a reason to root for something, something they can connect with. if nfl players act like overpaid idiots, a lot won't connect.
kinda like hollywood folks telling the voters to eat cake in the last election.
for me also, growing up with the purple people eaters, the steel curtain, the hogs, etc.
it doesn't seem like the NFL has solid teams anymore that last for a decade, high turnover and players leaving for the highest dollar, seem like your rooting for a jersey anymore and not a group of characters.
 
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I have only watched part of one game this year. And that's because we had friends over for lunch, and they wanted the game on. Probably the only whole game I will watch this year will be the super bowl.

Deflategate is the biggest downer for me, but that's because I think they had been cheating for a long, long time.
 
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The NY Post.
So many things wrong with that article I will not even begin.
New York news source.. Funny that they are more ready to compare it to the fall of an empire based on violence. instead of the political garbage.. I do think, based on things my father has said, that all the show boating, dancing, whining, and frankly unsportsmanlike conduct. Is another reason older generation is tuning out.
NFL will be fine. It couldn't possibly maintain it's growth rate. It's down 27% after being up 2700% the last 20 yrs.
 
Totally agree with a lot of the posts above. It's a combination of a lot of things. The protests turn me and a lot of other people off, as did the "hands up" thing, which I think was the St. Louis Rams, even thought it was proven not to occur in Ferguson. But it's not just that. Players with choreographed celebrations for making routine tackles when their team is down 28-0, stupid penalties and total lack of discipline. I know the refs miss some calls but a lot of the calls they do make are obvious. They have to call them. Players need to clean themselves up on that issue. Lack of fundamentals. The list goes on and on. I will still watch my Packers but that's about it. Their attendance and ratings will continue to decline. Once people find other things to do on Sunday, it's very hard to get them back.

You could be right on the Rams as opposed to the Hawks as I previously thought. Right now I'm on valium, oxycodone, and morphine and believe it or not i'm a bit fuzzy on things that require a good memory. I know, shocking to me to.
 
I was also golfing until December in Colorado.. Just saying lot of factors here, but get politics out of the NFL
 
Honestly fantasy football has reduced my NFL watching for me...I don't watch specific games anymore, I just check my Yahoo apps to see how my guys are doing. Rarely watch any NFL any more, plus the Jets suck...sigh
 
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Its simple for me and a lot of people i know...the NFL thinks of itself as a political machine now. Its not jist the anthem protests although for me it was the straw that broke the camels back. That worm bob costas made me decide no more sunday night football on nbc. Every day there are discussions about race in the nfl as if it matters. There are people that akin the NFL to slavery, my goodness. Constant bitching about white owners and coaches. a commisioner who is political.
Its the same with espn and sadly sports illustrated. They must think what they do isnt important enough or that they themselves are important and everyone cares about their views on politics. We want sports!
I didnt read this article but another tried to blAme lower rAtings on concussions. Give me a break. Same article didnt mention protests. That itself is a perfect example of why the NFL is down...and another example of media trying to project their views onto readers instead of actually being honest and figuring it out. Learned nothing from the election, evidently.
And it aint soccer, hispanics love the NFL in case you havent noticed.


Its reflecting society in general.


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Furthermore, I have a hard time stomaching a league where the majority of the owners are eager to fleece taxpayers for stadiums when they're pulling in money hand over fist.

This grinds me to no end. Wealthy owners threaten to move unless they get hundreds of millions of public dollars to finance their new stadium, Politicians held hostage cave in and give them the money then pass it on in the form of taxes paid by wage earners who can't afford the price of a tickets to take their family to see a game. Ultra rich owners soaking the middle class and working poor and laughing all the way to the bank.

Honestly fantasy football has reduced my NFL watching for me...I don't watch specific games anymore,
Yep if it wasn't for fantasy football I doubt I would watch more than 2-3 games per season. I just follow my players on-line while switching back and forth between games on TV if my players are involved.
 
I really dont think people arent watching as much because the political stances are pretty much muted by now...its the style of play...every qb is scared to throw it deeper than 8 yards...its check down check down punt on 4th and inches...very little risk taking....I mean the Alex Smith, Blake Bortles, Brock Osweilers of the world are doing more to drive away viewers more the Kapernicks although the way he played yesterday was enough to drive away viewers too...Getting rid of the ads would help too
 
for me it's a simple as NFL Red Zone. I can do stuff around the house, work in the garage, and not have to devote 3 plus hours to watching 1 game. On Red Zone there are no commercials, it's just action followed by more action. If you leave and come back, it's like you never left, scores update and they just keep showing game action.
 
I think several factors are involved but much of it can be blamed on former players. Football as a whole has lost interest due to safety factors. Players suing because they werent smart enough to realize bashing your head against a brick wall 50 times a day could be damaging to your brain. who would have thought.

Also the NFL babying players and letting them think they can do what they want. How bout the NFL saying "we are your employer and you will do as we say or you will be unemployed". Instead they say, oh that is freedom of speech. Sorry, freedom of speech without consequences stops when you sign on the line to play. I cant make my own rules at my job without consequences and neither can any of you (well if you arent self emplyed anyways).
 
I've been less and less interested in the NFL as the years have gone by. I don't give a crap about the anthem protests (I don't think they should play it at sporting events not involving a service academy to begin with.) Other people are bothered by it, and that's their right, but patriotic correctness makes as little sense to me as political correctness. My problem with the NFL is that it seems to take over the entire sports year. How many mock drafts do we really need? How many shows about the NFL do we have to endure during the second half of the NBA season and the first part of MLB? Furthermore, I have a hard time stomaching a league where the majority of the owners are eager to fleece taxpayers for stadiums when they're pulling in money hand over fist. The noxious overexposure, the homogenized, boring product, the lack of energy or personality, the overabundance of commercials, the average fan now caring more about their fantasy players than what their actual team is doing, it's just not fun to follow.
Throw this in there for me as well...
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This grinds me to no end. Wealthy owners threaten to move unless they get hundreds of millions of public dollars to finance their new stadium, Politicians held hostage cave in and give them the money then pass it on in the form of taxes paid by wage earners who can't afford the price of a tickets to take their family to see a game. Ultra rich owners soaking the middle class and working poor and laughing all the way to the bank.


Yep if it wasn't for fantasy football I doubt I would watch more than 2-3 games per season. I just follow my players on-line while switching back and forth between games on TV if my players are involved.

The NFL has been the biggest source of anti-sports gambling rhetoric in the country. If the interest continues to dip, watch for the NFL to join the NBA in the pro sports gambling movement. And frankly, it's about time we join the rest of the free world in legalizing it.
 
Another thing besides the commercials, politics and sameness of mostly all the teams running the same pro style offenses is free agency. The teams have totally different personnel year to year, makes it hard to root for your favorite player. At least we had TA and Gerry on our team for 4 years.
 

It's kind of ironic, the NFL has spent the entire period since at least the Gulf War portraying itself as the Star Spangled Sports League. The NFL, more than any other pro sports league has transformed its events into spectacles of a muscular militaristic patriotism. While some people might think of the league as having been an apolitical entity, it really hasn't been for a long time; it probably would have been better for it if it had been apolitical. I think a lot of the anger is precisely because the NFL has always portrayed itself as having taken a particular "side" in America's cultural tensions, and when players behave in a way that directly subverts that identity, it's going to piss a lot of people off.
 
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My lack of interest in the NFL has come from a few different things. I'm a Texans fan so some relate to it while others not so much. I happen to agree with the Kaepernick protest so my declining interest is not because of that.

1. Having to watch Brock Osweiler - he broke me after 6 games, can't watch anymore. I had Sunday off, chose to take a random mid day nap instead of attempting to watch him play football.

2. Commercials, there's just too many too often. It feels like these games take 3.5 hours so just like baseball, I'm out.

3. The league claims they're all about player safety yet makes every team play a game or two on Thursday which is just a few days after their previous game. The games suck, guys wind up getting hurt and I have no interest in watching a half-assed product with players having their career shortened by greed from the league. Also hurts that the Texans have the worst medical staff in football with the worst field in football. Some dude on a Texans message board without access to any patient files (only what is reported on twitter or the newspaper) has been better at predicting injuries and future complications than the Texans medical staff - often months in advance. But hey, keep grinding these guys into the ground.

4. Terrible selection of games unless you buy Sunday Ticket. If it's not an intriguing game or team, I'm not interested. Subjecting me to watching the Bears on a regular basis on local TV means I'll skip (sorry Bears fans). Putting any AFC South team on primetime should likewise be a fireable offense, such an awful division.

5. It feels like half of the big plays are called back for penalties. I'd rather wait for the highlights if everything is going to get called back.

6. The NFL's ridiculous discipline penalty scale. Beat your wife or girlfriend, get suspended a game or up to 6 (yeah right). Smoke too much pot, banned from the league.

7. Just the overall quality of the league. It just isn't fun to watch unless your team is really good but even then, it's a whole lot of blah. At least in the NBA most every team has one or two good young players that make them watchable, the NFL not so much.

Lastly and most importantly, the proliferation of the 3 yard passing game and never throwing more than 10 yards. I heard a crazy stat last week that Aaron Rodgers is now throwing 70% of his passes for less than 5 yards. He's one of the best QBs in the game but only 3 of every 10 passes attempted are longer than 5 yards. Boring. That doesn't even take into account how basically 80% of the league has turned into imitations of Alex Smith's 3 yard passing or throw it out of bounds strategy. I have no interest in watching games with rarely any possibilities of big plays.

Those are just a few of the reasons I've seen my interest decline. Oh yeah and Brock Osweiler, he's the biggest reason. He's the worst QB I've ever seen and yet my team is stuck with him for another year with a terrible owner whose family will likely never sell or ditch his crappy son-in-law GM. But mostly Brock.
 
My lack of interest in the NFL has come from a few different things. I'm a Texans fan so some relate to it while others not so much. I happen to agree with the Kaepernick protest so my declining interest is not because of that.

1. Having to watch Brock Osweiler - he broke me after 6 games, can't watch anymore. I had Sunday off, chose to take a random mid day nap instead of attempting to watch him play football.

2. Commercials, there's just too many too often. It feels like these games take 3.5 hours so just like baseball, I'm out.

3. The league claims they're all about player safety yet makes every team play a game or two on Thursday which is just a few days after their previous game. The games suck, guys wind up getting hurt and I have no interest in watching a half-assed product with players having their career shortened by greed from the league. Also hurts that the Texans have the worst medical staff in football with the worst field in football. Some dude on a Texans message board without access to any patient files (only what is reported on twitter or the newspaper) has been better at predicting injuries and future complications than the Texans medical staff - often months in advance. But hey, keep grinding these guys into the ground.

4. Terrible selection of games unless you buy Sunday Ticket. If it's not an intriguing game or team, I'm not interested. Subjecting me to watching the Bears on a regular basis on local TV means I'll skip (sorry Bears fans). Putting any AFC South team on primetime should likewise be a fireable offense, such an awful division.

5. It feels like half of the big plays are called back for penalties. I'd rather wait for the highlights if everything is going to get called back.

6. The NFL's ridiculous discipline penalty scale. Beat your wife or girlfriend, get suspended a game or up to 6 (yeah right). Smoke too much pot, banned from the league.

7. Just the overall quality of the league. It just isn't fun to watch unless your team is really good but even then, it's a whole lot of blah. At least in the NBA most every team has one or two good young players that make them watchable, the NFL not so much.

Lastly and most importantly, the proliferation of the 3 yard passing game and never throwing more than 10 yards. I heard a crazy stat last week that Aaron Rodgers is now throwing 70% of his passes for less than 5 yards. He's one of the best QBs in the game but only 3 of every 10 passes attempted are longer than 5 yards. Boring. That doesn't even take into account how basically 80% of the league has turned into imitations of Alex Smith's 3 yard passing or throw it out of bounds strategy. I have no interest in watching games with rarely any possibilities of big plays.

Those are just a few of the reasons I've seen my interest decline. Oh yeah and Brock Osweiler, he's the biggest reason. He's the worst QB I've ever seen and yet my team is stuck with him for another year with a terrible owner whose family will likely never sell or ditch his crappy son-in-law GM. But mostly Brock.

So, tell us how you feel about Brock Osweiler.
 
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