OT - Hate

[huskergina]

Sparky...I have started the timer...lol

 

[Lincoln100]

In general, public figures would do well to recognize that the opinions have shifted on the issue, and that particular train has left the station. Being against gay rights has become a minority opinion and laws that seek to define gay people as second-class citizens are not long for this nation. I would just about promise you that whoever wins the GOP primary will not go into the general election being vocally anti-gay-rights.

Great article here on how the opinions have shifted on the issue with each generation.

http://www.people-press.org/2013/03...iage-changed-minds-and-changing-demographics/

It is amazing that a Democrat, not too long ago, said that marriage was between a man and a woman and got elected to the highest office, but if a Republican says the same thing, they would immediately be labeled a bigot and a hater. Give me a break with this second-class citizen stuff, respectfully.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

Most likely that only makes sense to someone who holds those biblical views. To everyone else...it probably comes off as discrimination, judgement, intolerance, etc. For example, I am a conservative Evangelical. As a single person, if someone in the church called me out for having an affair....I know that it would be done out of love in an effort to bring me back to obedience. If I tried to correct a casual friend who is sleeping around...and not a practicing Christian....she would tell me to mind my own business. Its all about reference points.

FALSE. I live a Christian life, and attend bible studies and church with my family multilpe times a week. To get up and go down to talk in support of discrimination is HATE. There is no hiding behind the bible for that. If he wants to pick and choose what he supports that he sees as against Gods message, then he is full of it. To lash out against the University when they tell you to stop doing it like you are representing the University is childish. He should either preach full time, or stop picking groups and things he feels it is ok to go speak and discriminate against.

 

[siegsker]

Nobody wants to feel that they are a hater. A better word is intolerance. Here you are mentioning homosexuality in the same breath as alcohol problems, philandering, drugs, lying, pedophilia...

And yet, we enjoy a world where our own being -- whom we choose to love -- is almost universally accepted. So, try to understand that this luxury is something gay people do not have yet in our society, despite that society being based on principles such as loving your neighbor as you would yourself. In facing intolerance and lacking acceptance for something basic and central to their identity, they suffer a great deal needlessly. This is why there is effort to change things.

I do not believe anyone gets to be intolerant or promote it and then hide behind religion. I know religious people and even churches who are not this way. If people are homophobic, then that is their own issue. They don't get to drag Jesus in there with them. They don't get to ask respect for views that are not respectable.

 

[huskergina]

Yep....didnt take long

 

[Lincoln100]

FALSE. I live a Christian life, and attend bible studies and church with my family multilpe times a week. To get up and go down to talk in support of discrimination is HATE. There is no hiding behind the bible for that. If he wants to pick and choose what he supports that he sees as against Gods message, then he is full of it. To lash out against the University when they tell you to stop doing it like you are representing the University is childish. He should either preach full time, or stop picking groups and things he feels it is ok to go speak and discriminate against.

You do realize that many, probably most, laws discriminate against a set of people. Anyone under the age of 21 is discriminated against because they can't buy alcohol. Anyone under the age of 16 is discriminated against because they can't drive. etc. To say that someone hate's a person because what they think is "discriminatory" is flat out wrong.

 

[sparky62]

Sorry guys/gals. It's time.