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Most of the adults who are residing in the US as undocumented work jobs. So there is a cost to the GDP of the country if they are deported. At the present time, undocumenteds are approximately 3% of the overall US population, and yet there has been upward pressure on wages and employees (at least good ones) come at a premium in the service sectors of the economy. The US construction industry runs on immigrants, some with papers, other not. One could argue that we need more immigrants to fill available jobs. I would rather we find a way to do this within the law, but others think if we just keep them out and also kick them out, the economy will be better. The math doesn't support that.
  • More than 1.4 million undocumented immigrants work in construction, accounting for 13 percent of all construction workers.
  • Approximately 25 percent of workers in farming, fishing, and forestry occupations are undocumented—although this is likely an undercount—as are 16 percent of workers in construction and extraction occupations.
 
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inWV said:
Most of the adults who are residing in the US as undocumented work jobs. So there is a cost to the GDP of the country if they are deported. At the present time, undocumenteds are approximately 3% of the overall US population, and yet there has been upward pressure on wages and employees (at least good ones) come at a premium in the service sectors of the economy. The US construction industry runs on immigrants, some with papers, other not. One could argue that we need more immigrants to fill available jobs. I would rather we find a way to do this within the law, but others think if we just keep them out and also kick them out, the economy will be better. The math doesn't support that.
  • More than 1.4 million undocumented immigrants work in construction, accounting for 13 percent of all construction workers.
  • Approximately 25 percent of workers in farming, fishing, and forestry occupations are undocumented—although this is likely an undercount—as are 16 percent of workers in construction and extraction occupations.
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Don’t distract the mob with facts…. They like high inflation activities like deporting all our workers and tariffs…. Hate is easier than educating yourself..
 
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Most of the adults who are residing in the US as undocumented work jobs. So there is a cost to the GDP of the country if they are deported. At the present time, undocumenteds are approximately 3% of the overall US population, and yet there has been upward pressure on wages and employees (at least good ones) come at a premium in the service sectors of the economy. The US construction industry runs on immigrants, some with papers, other not. One could argue that we need more immigrants to fill available jobs. I would rather we find a way to do this within the law, but others think if we just keep them out and also kick them out, the economy will be better. The math doesn't support that.
  • More than 1.4 million undocumented immigrants work in construction, accounting for 13 percent of all construction workers.
  • Approximately 25 percent of workers in farming, fishing, and forestry occupations are undocumented—although this is likely an undercount—as are 16 percent of workers in construction and extraction occupations.
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Do they pay taxes?
 
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Most of the adults who are residing in the US as undocumented work jobs. So there is a cost to the GDP of the country if they are deported. At the present time, undocumenteds are approximately 3% of the overall US population, and yet there has been upward pressure on wages and employees (at least good ones) come at a premium in the service sectors of the economy. The US construction industry runs on immigrants, some with papers, other not. One could argue that we need more immigrants to fill available jobs. I would rather we find a way to do this within the law, but others think if we just keep them out and also kick them out, the economy will be better. The math doesn't support that.
  • More than 1.4 million undocumented immigrants work in construction, accounting for 13 percent of all construction workers.
  • Approximately 25 percent of workers in farming, fishing, and forestry occupations are undocumented—although this is likely an undercount—as are 16 percent of workers in construction and extraction occupations.
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Scare tactic doesn't work anymore. It's proven Americans will do those jobs and legal immigrants as well

Another establishment myth to scare people.

Besides automation will do that indirectly. Another reason to get rid of people.
 
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Don’t distract the mob with facts…. They like high inflation activities like deporting all our workers and tariffs…. Hate is easier than educating yourself..
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I find it interesting that it isn’t looked at as why is the US Congress failing to revise the system of immigration so that sectors of the economy that are critical have a sufficient number of employees. The truth is that American business is reflexively hostile to regulation and has historically cared little about the immigration status of their employees and now there is total lack of political interest in actually arriving at a solution.
There is a reason that the talented and hard working have flocked to the US. If you work hard and pay attention you can write your own ticket, be that in science, medicine, engineering, etc or on a factory floor. That’s why I’m always bullish on immigrants. Being here means something to them.
 
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Most of the adults who are residing in the US as undocumented work jobs. So there is a cost to the GDP of the country if they are deported. At the present time, undocumenteds are approximately 3% of the overall US population, and yet there has been upward pressure on wages and employees (at least good ones) come at a premium in the service sectors of the economy. The US construction industry runs on immigrants, some with papers, other not. One could argue that we need more immigrants to fill available jobs. I would rather we find a way to do this within the law, but others think if we just keep them out and also kick them out, the economy will be better. The math doesn't support that.
  • More than 1.4 million undocumented immigrants work in construction, accounting for 13 percent of all construction workers.
  • Approximately 25 percent of workers in farming, fishing, and forestry occupations are undocumented—although this is likely an undercount—as are 16 percent of workers in construction and extraction occupations.
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Youre right. Its impossible to have a secure border, deport known criminals, and still allow for legal immigration of people whose identity and motives we can process. Simply impossibe. Just gonna have to take the gangs and crime with the workers.

Leaving the border wide open, shipping peopele in and filtering them all over america on taxpayer dime, then shrugging shoulders regarding rapes, murders, narcodics, and other crimes isnt political at all and has nothing to do with amquest for power. Nor the cost and how much govt spends on them. Zero issue.
 
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inWV said:
I find it interesting that it isn’t looked at as why is the US Congress failing to revise the system of immigration so that sectors of the economy that are critical have a sufficient number of employees. The truth is that American business is reflexively hostile to regulation and has historically cared little about the immigration status of their employees and now there is total lack of political interest in actually arriving at a solution.
There is a reason that the talented and hard working have flocked to the US. If you work hard and pay attention you can write your own ticket, be that in science, medicine, engineering, etc or on a factory floor. That’s why I’m always bullish on immigrants. Being here means something to them.
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The only broken thing about America's immigration system is failure to enforce laws.
November elections have ended that failure.
 
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How if they’re not legal? I assume no SS number.
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They don't have a SS # or at least not a legit SS #

And the fact that they are "undocumented" but that we supposedly have all this data on them just goes to show one of two things

1. All that info is made up (likely)
2. They are undocumented BUT clearly are accounted for which means they should be paying taxes but clearly are not.
 
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Most of the adults who are residing in the US as undocumented work jobs. So there is a cost to the GDP of the country if they are deported. At the present time, undocumenteds are approximately 3% of the overall US population, and yet there has been upward pressure on wages and employees (at least good ones) come at a premium in the service sectors of the economy. The US construction industry runs on immigrants, some with papers, other not. One could argue that we need more immigrants to fill available jobs. I would rather we find a way to do this within the law, but others think if we just keep them out and also kick them out, the economy will be better. The math doesn't support that.
  • More than 1.4 million undocumented immigrants work in construction, accounting for 13 percent of all construction workers.
  • Approximately 25 percent of workers in farming, fishing, and forestry occupations are undocumented—although this is likely an undercount—as are 16 percent of workers in construction and extraction occupations.
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Don't worry. The rich, connected people won't have their illegals deported. Somehow they will end up with visas. That's my biggest problem with any of this politically motivated stuff. The people in power get to choose.
 
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Most of the adults who are residing in the US as undocumented work jobs. So there is a cost to the GDP of the country if they are deported. At the present time, undocumenteds are approximately 3% of the overall US population, and yet there has been upward pressure on wages and employees (at least good ones) come at a premium in the service sectors of the economy. The US construction industry runs on immigrants, some with papers, other not. One could argue that we need more immigrants to fill available jobs. I would rather we find a way to do this within the law, but others think if we just keep them out and also kick them out, the economy will be better. The math doesn't support that.
  • More than 1.4 million undocumented immigrants work in construction, accounting for 13 percent of all construction workers.
  • Approximately 25 percent of workers in farming, fishing, and forestry occupations are undocumented—although this is likely an undercount—as are 16 percent of workers in construction and extraction occupations.
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We are rapidly laying off the same number of "non-essential" Government "workers." I have no doubt that those layoffs will soon learn to thrive in "essential" agriculture and construction jobs after the illegal aliens have departed. Life is good.
 
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BTF69 said:
They don't have a SS # or at least not a legit SS #

And the fact that they are "undocumented" but that we supposedly have all this data on them just goes to show one of two things

1. All that info is made up (likely)
2. They are undocumented BUT clearly are accounted for which means they should be paying taxes but clearly are not.
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The Word for undocumented is called illegal immigrants.
 
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Scare tactic doesn't work anymore. It's proven Americans will do those jobs and legal immigrants as well

Another establishment myth to scare people.

Besides automation will do that indirectly. Another reason to get rid of people.
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You know any Americans volunteering to work in a turkey plant? How about a meat packing plant?
 
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Now this guys cares about inflation.. on brand
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We have open boarders for 4 years. Break every record ever set for illegal boarder crossings. Record amounts of tax payer dollars spent to facilitate these illegal boarder crossings all while inflation hits record numbers… And this fvcking guy wants people to believe that mitigating illegal immigration will lead to more/worse inflation. 🤣

They really have no shame and will say anything, no matter how outlandish and ridiculous it is, to back their bias uninformed opinions. Sad…
 
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Don't worry. The rich, connected people won't have their illegals deported. Somehow they will end up with visas. That's my biggest problem with any of this politically motivated stuff. The people in power get to choose.
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And that is where the Bannons of the world differ with the South African.
 
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