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Conspiracy thread and political trolling is not allowed.

And she basically describes how the measles thread went, Joe too.
 
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Make sense of this, please …

That's a vaccine used in areas with high incidence's of TB or leprosy. It's usually given to babies in those areas. Efficacy is reported as 20-80%. It's not widely used but when maybe when you have a baby born in to an immigrant household where one or more family members are TB carriers, it might be a good idea. It's a modified live organism developed from Mycobaterium Bovis so it is capable of producing an abcess in immunocompromised people but even a killed vaccine can cause a "sterile abcess". Humans make mistakes. Clearly the Dr. or nurse F'd up.
 
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That's a vaccine used in areas with high incidence's of TB or leprosy. It's usually given to babies in those areas. Efficacy is reported as 20-80%. It's not widely used but when maybe when you have a baby born in to an immigrant household where one or more family members are TB carriers, it might be a good idea. It's a modified live organism developed from Mycobaterium Bovis so it is capable of producing an abcess in immunocompromised people but even a killed vaccine can cause a "sterile abcess". Humans make mistakes. Clearly the Dr. or nurse F'd up.
So a pointless shot? Am I reading 20-80% efficacy? Why??
 
So a pointless shot? Am I reading 20-80% efficacy? Why??
You also asked: " Make sense of this, please …"

Much of the article's technical aspects were likely covered in biology/human physiology classes. Getting to 100% in medicine when talking about populations and biology is not likely (insert death and taxes joke here).

I'm curious if you found science classes interesting in high school or college. Biology? Human Physiology? Microbiology?
 
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Much of the article's technical aspects were likely covered in biology/human physiology classes. Getting to 100% in medicine when talking about populations and biology is not likely (insert death and taxes joke here).

I'm curious if you found science classes interesting in high school or college. Biology? Human Physiology? Microbiology?
I did pre med at Purdue while I interned as a pharmacist tech at Walgreens. I ended up changing majors. My sister is a doctor and my mom has been an RN since the 70s.

Now, a lady gets a TB shot by mistake and ends up with TB infection that took 6 months to clear. That’s what makes no sense on multiple levels. 20% efficacy for a shot that can cause many direct issues is astounding.
 
No. The story lost all credibility when they called the vaccine a virus.
I've typically found you to be one of the more reasonable posters on here, but your refusal to even hear counter evidence about vaccines is really quite something. Unfortunately, it's been way too common a reaction for way too long. Glad Covid had woken so many people up.

You should at least listen for a bit starting at 47:30.
 
I did pre med at Purdue while I interned as a pharmacist tech at Walgreens. I ended up changing majors. My sister is a doctor and my mom has been an RN since the 70s.

Now, a lady gets a TB shot by mistake and ends up with TB infection that took 6 months to clear. That’s what makes no sense on multiple levels. 20% efficacy for a shot that can cause many direct issues is astounding.

You also asked: " Make sense of this, please …"

Much of the article's technical aspects were likely covered in biology/human physiology classes. Getting to 100% in medicine when talking about populations and biology is not likely (insert death and taxes joke here).

I'm curious if you found science classes interesting in high school or college. Biology? Human Physiology? Microbiology?
I just love the condescending tone.

Arguments from authority took a huge hit during Covid, too.
 
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I've typically found you to be one of the more reasonable posters on here, but your refusal to even hear counter evidence about vaccines is really quite something. Unfortunately, it's been way too common a reaction for way too long. Glad Covid had woken so many people up.

You should at least listen for a bit starting at 47:30.
He conflated the podcast with my article to boot
 
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I did pre med at Purdue while I interned as a pharmacist tech at Walgreens. I ended up changing majors. My sister is a doctor and my mom has been an RN since the 70s.

Now, a lady gets a TB shot by mistake and ends up with TB infection that took 6 months to clear. That’s what makes no sense on multiple levels. 20% efficacy for a shot that can cause many direct issues is astounding.

Funny, I pictured you for a gynecologist.
 
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I did pre med at Purdue while I interned as a pharmacist tech at Walgreens. I ended up changing majors. My sister is a doctor and my mom has been an RN since the 70s.

Now, a lady gets a TB shot by mistake and ends up with TB infection that took 6 months to clear. That’s what makes no sense on multiple levels. 20% efficacy for a shot that can cause many direct issues is astounding.
To be accurate she didn’t get “TB”. The article is extremely flawed starting with headline.
 
To be accurate she didn’t get “TB”. The article is extremely flawed starting with headline.
The article stated she had TB from the shot.

What do you think of this quip?

Severe complications of the Bacillus Calmette-Guérin (BCG) vaccine for TB, particularly in healthy people, are rare, with about one to 10 percent of recipients recorded in the medical literature having experienced them.

Extremely rare, err I mean 10%
 
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BCG is used in Europe and other countries of high TB incidence. The United States has debated for decades about whether or not to use it here, the decision was not to use it partially because the incidence of TB was lower, and partly because of the concern that it would interfere with screening using the skin test for TB as it could create false positive reactions. The nurse/doctor screwed up but even then normally it’s no big deal to get a BCG vaccine, but in this case it was.
Just because somebody mixes up a measles vaccine with a paralytic agent as in Samoa or someone gets the wrong vaccine, doesn’t mean the whole concept of vaccination is BS.
JMHO it’s like saying that because there are car accidents, we should ban cars.
 
The article stated she had TB from the shot.

What do you think of this quip?

Severe complications of the Bacillus Calmette-Guérin (BCG) vaccine for TB, particularly in healthy people, are rare, with about one to 10 percent of recipients recorded in the medical literature having experienced them.

Extremely rare, err I mean 10%
Slightly better odds than Russian Roulette.
 
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To be accurate she didn’t get “TB”. The article is extremely flawed starting with headline.
Yes, she had TB bacterial infection due to medical malpractice. And also stated 10% of people who take the stupid shot have severe effects
 
Yes, she had TB bacterial infection due to medical malpractice. And also stated 10% of people who take the stupid shot have severe effects
BCG is not TB. It’s a related bacteria. The article is factually incorrect.
 
Yes, she had TB bacterial infection due to medical malpractice. And also stated 10% of people who take the stupid shot have severe effects
Medical malpractice? How could this happen from these heroes? How many have they killed again?
 
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The attenuated BCG vaccine does not use human 'TB' bacteria (Mycobacterium tuberculosis). It uses a related bacteria that elicits an immune response and helps people be protected against TB. The infection noted in the article would not be from M tuberculosis but from M bovis. The M bovis bacteria is the version found in cattle (bovine).

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  • The BCG vaccine is made from a weakened (attenuated) form of the Mycobacterium bovis bacteria, which is related to the bacteria that causes TB.
  • When the vaccine is given, it stimulates the body's immune system to recognize and fight off the TB bacteria.
  • This stimulation helps the body's immune system to be better prepared to fight off TB infection if it occurs later in life.
  • While BCG doesn't prevent TB infection, it does help protect against the development of severe disease.
 
The attenuated BCG vaccine does not use human 'TB' bacteria (Mycobacterium tuberculosis). It uses a related bacteria that elicits an immune response and helps people be protected against TB. The infection noted in the article would not be from M tuberculosis but from M bovis. The M bovis bacteria is the version found in cattle (bovine).

web bullets
  • The BCG vaccine is made from a weakened (attenuated) form of the Mycobacterium bovis bacteria, which is related to the bacteria that causes TB.
  • When the vaccine is given, it stimulates the body's immune system to recognize and fight off the TB bacteria.
  • This stimulation helps the body's immune system to be better prepared to fight off TB infection if it occurs later in life.
  • While BCG doesn't prevent TB infection, it does help protect against the development of severe disease.
Thank you for the search engine post
The woman got a TB bacterial infection that took her 6 months to recover from thanks to a shot she didn't ask for or need.
 
Rest and fasting.

Do you run to the doctor?
Well, I’m mindful of the quote that a physician that treats himself has a fool for a patient so I don’t treat myself
But the answer to the question is no I don’t run to the doctor. I have a car. 😉
I do think it’s helpful, blood pressure, cholesterol control, etc. I’m not awful with my diet, but I’m not exactly good either.
 
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Medical malpractice? How could this happen from these heroes? How many have they killed again?
BTW, The money is not in referring people who say they have been injured by vaccines to a law firm for a finders fee. The real big money is being an expert witness. I predict RFK Jr Is going to last about a year or two, then after he’s dug up a little dirt on vaccine companies with the help of his new minions-there’s always dirt somewhere on any business-he goes into the expert witness business.
 
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Well, I’m mindful of the quote that a physician that treats himself has a fool for a patient so I don’t treat myself
But the answer to the question is no I don’t run to the doctor. I have a car. 😉
I do think it’s helpful, blood pressure, cholesterol control, etc. I’m not awful with my diet, but I’m not exactly good either.
It’s nice to see AI to have a little humor programmed in there
 
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