Looks much better after sitting and watching for a few games. ARE YOU WATCHING SATTERFIELD? (And Matt).
OT: Bryce Young
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Who exactly are we supposed to put in?
Haarberg if even only for a series. Enough of this one play bullsh$$. Let Raiola watch for a bit. Haarberg looked better than Raiola when he came in last week.
Maybe. Who knows? He's been terrible and that's all we really know.
Won today, versus the Giants. Tap the brakes.
I’m not talking about the W:L result. I’m talking about how Young looked in the first half. I didn’t get to see the second half….but they did win too.
Yeah he couldn’t climb out of the hole Satt and Dylan dug for us.
HH threw the pick at the end of the game just like he (and every other QB on the roster) did last year.
The pick was on a deflection down the field. It wasn’t a horrible pass. He accounted for multiple first downs to give us a chance. I’m not lobbying for Haarberg to be our permanent starter. I’m lobbying for a banged up freshman QB to sit for at least a few series.
Oh come on. That last pass was stupid. Typical HH. Turnover at a critical time. Threw a bomb into double coverage. There was still enough time for three more plays. He choked. As usual.
But I don’t disagree about sitting Raiola a bit. Couldn’t hurt.
Had our WR been stronger going for the ball, stronger with his hands, or stronger when he landed (ball landed in his lap for a second) then the pick doesn't happen.
To me, it was more on the WR than it was for HH.
I don't think it's ever a fair position to put someone in to have the backup try to be the savior with 5 minutes left while the starter was pissing the entire game away. Give HH an actual fair shot and see what happens.
That was his shot. That was the actual shot. In real life. There was his opportunity. In the end, he was the same guy.
He looked better, because UCLA dropped into a softer defense to prevent the run. They definitely didn’t pressure HH the way they pressure DR.
It would help both quarterbacks if they actually had a game plan
Thank you. The amount of excuse making on this board for HH is a head scratcher. The dude is a very mediocre guy in terms of basic talent and he is a fricking turnover machine. But he can run! Not really. He is better than Raiola but HH can only run effectively if he has a wide open running lane. Otherwise he drops like a bag of stones. And once again, the sheer incompetence of Rhule to keep trying to wedge HH into the offense is on display. He obviously had to play him once DR got injured but his attempts at trotting HH out for one play (obvious QB run) is absurd in its incompetence
To prevent the run? He scrambled for at least one first down. The issue is we’re losing WITH Raiola and he looks terrible much of the time. He’s got an injured throwing shoulder and ankle. I’m not saying bench him indefinitely but for heaven’s sake either commit to the run or give somebody else at least a few series of downs. What we’ve been seeing is insanity.
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I think it is clear that Raiola has been playing injured. He is just not the same guy. So yeah, as much as I am not a HH fan the fact is a healthy HH is probably better for us than an injured Raiola. We have to do whatever it takes to get that sixth win.
The pass was noticeably late. He's behind in reading coverage.
Yeh, can't imagine how Barney failed to pull in this pass. Other than the ball arriving late and the safety completely blowing up the play, this should have been a walk in the park. Given the situation, I get why HH would try to squeeze the ball in there. But good Lord, blaming the receiver for that INT doesn't make any sense.
All criticism of HH aside, it is too bad that Barney was momentarily stunned by the hit he took because he could have caught that ball since it landed softly right on his chest.
All he had to do was
1. Lead a game winning TD drive
2. Lead a drive that ended in a change of possession on 4 downs
Instead he did the worst possible thing and do exactly what he did all season last year and throw a pick to end the game.
There was no “hole” that Satterfield got us into. HH had a shot to win the game and his old job back and showed us all again exactly why he isn’t the starting QB
He moved the ball better than Raiola had and didn’t look like a deer in headlights. Haarberg also didn’t throw the ball directly to a DB when he had a wide open tight end 15 yards further down the field. Face it. Raiola at times stunk too.
Evidence that HH has learned very little about quarterbacking in the last 12 months
Hit his right knee, actually. But yeah if Barney had not been KOed by the safety who read the play from the get-go, he might have had a shot at it. I give credit to the Bruins' #9 for not giving up on the play. Great effort on his part.
Raiola wasn’t good
But the biggest difference was Satterfield finally calling vertical routes. He has hamstrung Dylan over the last 6 games with his dink and dunk stuff he is running.
Not to mention the loose zone shells they ran on that final series vs what Dylan was dealing with.
Think about the things Dylan did his entire life to become a 5 star QB. Lots of vertical reps in his life in practice and 7s.
Satt has him throwing a lot of shorter route stems and it’s causing Dylan to have to distinguish man vs zone without the ability to stretch out the zone and more easily see what they are running. There is a reason he is throwing his INTs in roughly the same depth of the field. He’s getting it picked by the zone at depths that he wasn’t able to see if it was zone or man.
There is no way to run vertical routes until Raiola figures out how to be really good at dink and dunk stuff. Every defense is throwing all out blitz at us until he does. There is no way to wait for vertical to get open unless you just want to blindly chuck up deep stuff and hope receivers win 50/50 balls every time. Against these blitzes the quick stuff SHOULD be very effective, but Raiola refuses to hit those guys. Good coaching would demand that he complete those passes against pressure.
Yeah, but yesterday some QB in the NFL also threw an interception so HH isn’t to blame. You have no idea
I didn't say it was all on Barney. Both QB & WR can be blamed on that play. I just listed the reasons why I think it fell more on the WR.
I agree. It was late. Also, Barney had a chance to make a play as well and he didn't.
I'm not solely blaming that play on Barney, it would've been a very tough play to make, but still one that could have been made. He probably knows that too.
Completely incorrect.
We would go double tights and a RB in Max pro. Run verts and then get cute with delayed releases to flats and seams. To keep the blitzes honest.
Whatever LB side vacates is the dump.
Or run Verts with smash concept stuff from 21 and 22 packages.
You don’t seem to understand that constant short stems are disastrous to a freshman qb who has all of the physical tools but isn’t ready for the game speed decisions of reading the shells.
Teams that disguise their C4 shells are disastrous to a young QB.
And no one is running C3 against Satt because of his love of the sidelines, flats and idiotic stick and 0s he runs
He passed for 126 yards. In a NFL game.
