On principle, coaches deserve time.
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The only person who can fire the coach is the A.D and he hired the guy less than a year ago, he won't do it.
Allow the coaching staff to settle in and do their jobs, you do realize some of these coaches have NFL experience?
We all hated Bo's sideline demeanor, but I hate Riley's as well. Every time they show him, he seems to be just standing there by himself. Never see him engaging with players and coaching them up.
Right on. I'd have him thrown in prison, frankly. Fire the injury-prevention coach, also. I still say impeaching Ricketts is on the table. This happened under his watch.
It will be interesting to see if the tone changes out of the high profile former players and so forth.
My guess is not as in the whole they seem more even keeled than your average message board goer.
Say what? NHL experience means nothing...different league, different talent levels, different cultures...heck, it is practically a different sport!
not a fan either. seems like he always stands there staring with his mouth open.
I would respectfully state that you are mistaken.
The reason things collapsed so suddenly on Solich in 2002 was that he had finally run out of Osborne recruits.
LOL...this team has me thinking hockey already. The NFL has few similarities with the college game.
Well, MR may need more time, indeed. However, I think with really good players, he could get to 8-5....maybe. Keep the faith Husker Nation. WE WILL BE BACK. GBR
Pelini had plenty of recruits at QB that are/were highly rated....a certain 4 star who was also recruited by Riley who left this season is one example.
Yeah, OK. They lacked experience, not talent. Finished season with future Heisman QB Crouch after starting season with Newcombe, one of the elite athletes ever at NU. Makovika one of NU's best FB's ever. DeAngelo Evans a great but injury prone I-Back. Sheldon Jackson a great receiving TE. WR's were Davison, Kenny Cheatham, Shevin Wiggins, no problem there. Two future All-Americans on OL in Dominic Raiola and Russ Hochstein. They were not All-Americans yet, but the talent was there. "Bare cupboard" is ridiculous comment.
So your argument is Bo coached non high-profile players better than Riley? Hahaha, what a stupid post. Fact is we fired a 9 win coach a second time, and hired a scrub to replace him for a second straight time. Terrible admin decisions.
Ya I get it, if this was all injuries I'd be all in with you
This experiment also indicates that these are not great coaches
Period!
Probably not. I'm not getting better, I can tell you that. I blame that on Riley, for the most part--and having a busy family with kids in activities. I can't really commit to making great posts, so I resort to sarcasm too often.
The 98 offense was a total product of Frank's ....I don't know what to call, guess I'll call
OPTION, TO THE SHORT SIDE OF THE FIELD. Guys like Bobby Newcombe and Eric Crouch were "okay'
Why do coaches deserve time? They can leave at pretty much aNY time. They can perform poorly and get fired and keep getting paid years later making millions. This coaching staff has shown who they are. They don't deserve anymore time here, and didn't deserve to be here in the first place. This fan base deserves a lot better.
I usually don't put much stock into things like that, but there were multiple times they showed him on the sidelines like that, and I've never seen someone look so clueless.
It's both.
Our talent level sucks. Jeez. Look at the QB position, our linebackers, and our secondary. Bo forgot to put the stars on any of his recruits before he left.
The foundation has had cracks in it for over 15 years and the program is close to hitting rock bottom. The culture here needs to be completely rebuilt from the ground up and it is going to take time. We have sank to pre-Devaney era really.
Maybe Riley is the guy...maybe not. The sooner everyone comes to terms with this, the better. Seriously, I expect little right now and I cheer for first downs anymore. Sad but true. But I'm still a fan because someday (hopefully sooner) I'm going to say with other fans we were there during the low points and we've waited so long for this championship. Just like waiting so long for Tom's first NC during the 1994 season.
Nobody that is a Husker fan (casual or fanatic) is happy but this is fact.
Maybe Riley is the guy...maybe not. The sooner everyone comes to terms with this, the better. Seriously, I expect little right now and I cheer for first downs anymore. Sad but true. But I'm still a fan because someday (hopefully sooner) I'm going to say with other fans we were there during the low points and we've waited so long for this championship. Just like waiting so long for Tom's first NC during the 1994 season.
Nobody that is a Husker fan (casual or fanatic) is happy but this is fact.
Saban surrounds himself with very talented assistant coaches. He also shows about 100x the energy of Riley and actually coaches up the players on the sidelines. Riley seems like a spectator on the sidelines. Couldn't believe he took his headset off with 4 minutes left in the game.
If you read Shatel's column it is very clear nobody is going anywhere, I agree with Tom when he said letting this staff go after 1 year would be toxic suicide for the program nobody would touch the job with a 30 foot pole.
If you let this staff continue it's also toxic suicide.
We're 3-6...and we haven't even played a ranked team.
Riley should be given enough time to recognize the deficiency in his assistant's teaching, schemes and playcalling and make changes. If he chooses to not exercise his oversight obligation, then he in isolation should be judged for the team record.
He's said on at least a few occassions something to the effect of "I'm not naive enough to think that any of this is good/bodes well for my team", it would be interesting to know if Eichorst has sat down with him and said, "hey its not going well but we think XYZ are acceptable in terms of teaching ability, we need to see ABC improve to keep going, etc" or if Milt or anybody has been asked for advice on stabilizing things.
For all we know, Eichorst or other administrators have told the dude, "hey Pelini's guys are causing all kinds of mayhem and this year is a pass, see you in Year 2".
Every bad season under Kirk, and we've had plenty, fans want him fired. Most years he fields a respectable, competitive team. But Kirk has the occasional year like you guys are experiencing this year with Riley. Every now and then he fields a VERY good team and he's the second coming. Seems to happen just often enough to keep him employed.
I have more patience than most I guess. I never jumped on the fire Kirk bandwagon.
Although I never understood the hiring, I had to google Riley when it was announced, I don't see firing Riley after a year as a good thing. IMO, it is best to stick with a new coach at least for a few years to see what he can do. The coaching carousel is not good.
We need a strong husker team to make the west division look good. But not TOO strong.
I have more patience than most I guess. I never jumped on the fire Kirk bandwagon.
Although I never understood the hiring, I had to google Riley when it was announced, I don't see firing Riley after a year as a good thing. IMO, it is best to stick with a new coach at least for a few years to see what he can do. The coaching carousel is not good.
We need a strong husker team to make the west division look good. But not TOO strong.
I hope MR proves me wrong, but I doubt it. This was a bizarre hire from the get go by an AD who was also a bizarre hire. Going to
take a lot of work to fix this mess.
take a lot of work to fix this mess.
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