Ohio State and Michigan
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Ohio St was closer..
Jim Harbaugh is now 1-6 in bowl games at Michigan only win was in the Citrus bowl against Florida..
Jim Harbaugh is now 1-6 in bowl games at Michigan only win was in the Citrus bowl against Florida..
Michigan's defense faced these offenses in the regular season:
@SWIowahawks Feel free to let us know if Iowa's defense is great or just good, considering the awful offenses it played in 2022. The folks over at (checks latest re-branding of Rivals boards) "Go Iowa Awesome" (OMG that's awful) seem to think the defense is elite, and any semblance of Hawkeye offense would have put this team in the playoffs.
Addendum: Jack Campbell is an elite defender, no doubt.
- Colorado State — 126th of 131 teams in FBS total yards gained
- Hawai'i — 104th
- Connecticut — 124th
- Maryland — 56th
- Iowa — 130th
- Indiana — 110th
- Penn State — 34th
- Michigan State — 97th
- Rutgers — 127th
- Nebraska — 102nd (with Purdy at QB)
- Illinois — 70th
- Ohio State — 9th
- Iowa State — 82nd
- Nevada — 123rd
- Rutgers — 127th
- Michigan — 25th
- Illinois — 70th
- Ohio State — 9th
- Northwestern — 107th
- Purdue — 48th
- Wisconsin — 91st
- Minnesota — 65th
- Nebraska — 102nd
- Kentucky — 116th (and played bowl without 90% of its regular-season total offensive yards)
@SWIowahawks Feel free to let us know if Iowa's defense is great or just good, considering the awful offenses it played in 2022. The folks over at (checks latest re-branding of Rivals boards) "Go Iowa Awesome" (OMG that's awful) seem to think the defense is elite, and any semblance of Hawkeye offense would have put this team in the playoffs.
Addendum: Jack Campbell is an elite defender, no doubt.
For years non Big Tenners have been saying this but no one wants to listen.
Would have loved to see Oklahoma or Washington play Minnesota or Ioway in a bowl game than we would find out how good these B1G defenses are…Ioway D is very good but if they had to play a offense with a pulse.. Their offense couldn’t keep up.
interested in watching how Illinois handles Miss St without Leach and the Rose Bowl games when Penn St has it’s hands full with Utah..
BTW, Michigan's 2023 non-con schedule includes:
- East Carolina
- UNLV
- Bowling Green
- Utah State
- Iowa State
- Western Michigan
- at Colorado
- Northern Illinois
- Louisiana Tech
Two pick 6's and a turnover at the 1 yard line, the chances of a win in those circumstances is exceedingly low. That's what determined the game. The fact that they still kept it close shows Michigan deserved to be there.
Face it: SEC and other Southern teams dominate. More speed and highly skilled personnel.
When you lose to 4-8 teams like Nebraska and Iowa State, the argument could be made that no game is easy.
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Yeah look at how fast and physical Kentucky and Missouri looked in their bowl games, 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
Sorry iowas d is not good
Anytime they faced even agerage speed they were exposed
B1G is the no offense league. Best quarterback this “elite” conference has produced in 20 years is Kirk cousins
Gary Danielson finally mentioned Mich’s comically cowardly schedule in the 4th quarter after 3 hours of “ranked top ___” each time they were gashed
If campbell is any good he’ll have a long nfl career. Here’s guessing he’s a nobody at the next level
Anytime they faced even agerage speed they were exposed
B1G is the no offense league. Best quarterback this “elite” conference has produced in 20 years is Kirk cousins
Gary Danielson finally mentioned Mich’s comically cowardly schedule in the 4th quarter after 3 hours of “ranked top ___” each time they were gashed
If campbell is any good he’ll have a long nfl career. Here’s guessing he’s a nobody at the next level
Yea dude kentucky starting a 17 year old with zero experience instead of the probable #1 overall pick definitely had nothing to do with them losing
Typical mouth breather B1G fan - more clueless with every passing day and every embarrassing B1G ouster on the national stage
Michigan defense probably overrated, but then by same token so is Georgia‘s.
Bottom line is offense has the upper hand and if you can’t score 30+ pts in big games against the upper echelon teams then you likely won’t win regardless how good your defense is.
Alabama - lost to Tennessee. The very same Tennessee that got boat raced by flipping South Carolina.
Lost to LSU. The same LSU that got beat by flipping Texas A&M.
I think the Iowa defense was pretty solid, Throughout the season the offense did them no favors in regard to short fields, Having to be on the field for far too many minutes, Etc. Iowa does not have elite speed that the top teams in the country are able to sign. One area I think Iowa does very well compared to even the top teams is tackling overall and especially tackling in space, Very fundamentally sound.
Btw, Agree completely on the new board name, It’s like they had an elementary school class have a contest to name the site.
This year is just another year, in a long line of years, that show there are never more than 3...(and usually it's 2) teams with a realistic argument to have a shot to play for a natty. Expanding to 12 is a joke.
If these were directed at me (?) then yes I admit ohiost is a top 10 team
Also I have doubled down on Haarberg since our new coach sees the same thing in him that I do (great potential)
Wait, they really changed their rivals page to Go Iowa Awesome?! Ahahahahah
Sorry I deleted one of my posts because I quoted the wrong guy and didn’t want to backtrack.
Top 10?
Also, how did Haarberg do this year behind that walk-on from Hastings?
You try way too hard man.
What did it say before? Guess they need some reason to come to their forum. Probably don't have much to look forward to after celebrating their 8 win season and hanging the banner for the Music City Bowl. Though I suppose sucking at basketball and getting their annual wrestling beatdown by Penn State is something
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all 4 teams in the playoff were pretty dam equal. anyone could have won. what they all had in common was a good passing game. a great defense could beat all 4 of them and i mean a great pass rush.
At the same time, you won't get there if you don't have a very good defense as well. That's why Alabama and Tennessee had to sit out this year.
If herkie had to play someone with speed, I think we’d see how good they really are. They couldn’t keep up with Palmer, and he was just one guy. Imagine a much better team with multiple fast skill players with a good OL? They wouldn’t be as good.
Also Michigan, Iowa, and Wisconsin for years have benefited from being very high time of possession teams. High time of possession makes your regular offensive stats look bad and defensive stats look amazing.
And having low time of possession tends to do the reverse.
This is not me saying this but what Dr. Tom told me and the wife when he hosted us last night.
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Iowa would have been 9-3 and won the west if they score 14 points every game. 14 stinking points with a third year starting QB. That’s insane to me. It’s more insane that Brian hasn’t been fired.
I do think Iowa’s defense was stellar this year. Especially, when you consider the predicaments the offense put them in. The OSU game is a perfect example. The offense gave OSU starting field position at the Iowa 32, Iowa 34, Iowa 27, and the Iowa 32 in the first half. OSU settled for FG’s all four times. Then you had the pick 6 Spencer threw. 26 first half points for OSU and only 7 could be attributed to the Iowa defense. (Long 75 yard drive for a TD by OSU).
Second half starts and Iowa picks off Stroud on the first play and Iowa gets the ball T the OSU 45. What’s the Iowa offense do? Fumbles the first snap and puts the defense back onto the field. The defense then forces a 3 and out. Two plays later Iowa throws a pick. OSU goes 15 yards for the score. Holding OSU to 360 yards of total offense is pretty good, IMO.
Held Michigan to 27 points, (7 came with a short 28 yard field when the offense turned it over on downs late in the game.)
Purdue was third highest on your list and Iowa held them to 3 points in West Lafayette.
I do believe they had a CFP defense but a high school non playoff offense.
Michigan doesn’t get enough shit for their schedules. And numbers can absolutely be reflective of competition. Minnesota is the same.
Cooper DeJean is an elite defender as well, as we saw with his MVP performance yesterday. Next years defense is gonna be another stellar one.
