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NU opens -8 over the Hooisers

Yes. The qb pressure is still severely lacking. If the staff is going to get major criticism early in their 1st year, I think true Nebraska fans would not be hypocrites and overlook obvious issues.


That D-line is on pace for 8 more sacks and double the QB hurries from a year ago. All while facing far fewer pass attempts.
If anything, D-line coaching is arguably the best on the team considering the talent on the roster.

Your take is completely off base.
 
Ohio State is scoring 50 points a game and is top-5 in total offense. You think Nebraska, when healthy, is that good? That seems like a little bit of an exaggeration to me. Ohio State's offense is the most explosive in the country from top to bottom.


No, I don't think Nebraska is just that good. I think their offense is better.... when healthy. Ohio State has more depth and can absorb injuries better than Nebraska. That's the result of elite recruiting. But Nebraska has some very talented front line players with far more experience.

Nebraska has the most balanced offense in the Big Ten. They're throwing it for 238 yards and running it for another 234 per game. They protect the QB, with only 3 sacks allowed in 5 games. They're leading the Big Ten in 3rd down conversion percentage at 53%. Nebraska has 107 first downs, without the aid of penalty this season. 53 have come by run. 54 have come through the air. And Nebraska still hasn't had a healthy compliment of their wideouts all in one game yet.

When Nebraska has the full compliment of their roster, you have to defend every possible scenario from any formation.
If Moore and Reilly are on the edge, with Westerkamp in the slot and Carter at Tight End/ H-Back, even an elite defense has to worry about every possible skill player on the field. Ohio State, in Tim Beck fashion, are a beat of a feast or famine offense. They're also a bit predictable. When you play bad teams that can't handle your athleticism, that doesn't matter. Watch them vs. Wisconsin, and watch Nebraska vs. Wisconsin. I don't think Ohio State knows how to handle someone punching them back in the face.

Vs. The Huskers You can try to cover Carter with a LB, but you will be succeptible to the Zone Read or outside zone. If you try to use a Safety or a Nickel on Carter, he will eat you up. You can try to use a Nickel on Westerkamp, but he's going to expose your 3rd best cover corner. If you take your number 1 guy and cover up Westy, you're leaving your self exposed on the edge vs Moore and Reilly. If you use a Safety for support on the back end, you're basically conceding Nebraska to go 5 to 7 yards a pop in the running game. If you cheat a safety in to stop the run, Nebraska is going to kill you in play action.

But it doesn't stop there. Morgan can replace any of the receivers out on the edge. Pierson - El is deadly in short to Intermediate routes. EVen if Nebraska subs their wideouts, they have enough depth to always force attention from the back 7. Somewhere Bill Callahan cries.

Nebraska can grind out the clock and put together long drives. They can get vertical. They have roughly 4 dudes who can carry the football on any play. They have a head spinning series of plays they can run out of any formation. The Buckeyes can run the ball on anyone, but also get a LOT more help from a devastating defense. That's where Ohio State is soooo much better than Nebraska.

So let's compare my comments to Ohio State. The Buckeyes are extremely talented. They are loaded. They are feasting on inferior and bad defenses. YOu can argue Nebraska hasn't played a good defense. That's fine. But The Buckeyes are explosive to a fault. You can't always rely on the big play, and you can't always rely on opposing defenses making terrible mistakes. Indiana slowed them quite a bit because the Hoosiers don't make mistakes on that side of the football.

They do have a better running back than anyone on Nebraska's roster though. Barrett won't make the occasional dumb play like Tommy. But from skill set standpoint, Tommy has a stronger arm and he's a better runner.
 
Realistically we are probably in the 18-22 range but I cant complain about 5-0 one bit....there is a good chance we will win ugly Saturday to go 6-0 ...also wont apologize for that. We are 2015 Iowa but with a much more difficult 2nd half schedule
 
That D-line is on pace for 8 more sacks and double the QB hurries from a year ago. All while facing far fewer pass attempts.
If anything, D-line coaching is arguably the best on the team considering the talent on the roster.

Your take is completely off base.
Nope. Giving up more rushing yards too. I demand satisfaction, immediately, and every play of the game.
 
People are not picking up on this yet?

Actually, as a fan base we are fortunate that the team has done well to this point. It allows us to be unified without arguing over losses due to coaches, players, toxicity, going maverick, etc.

Last year was bad, some people just want to keep picking the scab off for their jollies.
 
No, I don't think Nebraska is just that good. I think their offense is better.... when healthy. Ohio State has more depth and can absorb injuries better than Nebraska. That's the result of elite recruiting. But Nebraska has some very talented front line players with far more experience.

Nebraska has the most balanced offense in the Big Ten. They're throwing it for 238 yards and running it for another 234 per game. They protect the QB, with only 3 sacks allowed in 5 games. They're leading the Big Ten in 3rd down conversion percentage at 53%. Nebraska has 107 first downs, without the aid of penalty this season. 53 have come by run. 54 have come through the air. And Nebraska still hasn't had a healthy compliment of their wideouts all in one game yet.

When Nebraska has the full compliment of their roster, you have to defend every possible scenario from any formation.
If Moore and Reilly are on the edge, with Westerkamp in the slot and Carter at Tight End/ H-Back, even an elite defense has to worry about every possible skill player on the field. Ohio State, in Tim Beck fashion, are a beat of a feast or famine offense. They're also a bit predictable. When you play bad teams that can't handle your athleticism, that doesn't matter. Watch them vs. Wisconsin, and watch Nebraska vs. Wisconsin. I don't think Ohio State knows how to handle someone punching them back in the face.

Vs. The Huskers You can try to cover Carter with a LB, but you will be succeptible to the Zone Read or outside zone. If you try to use a Safety or a Nickel on Carter, he will eat you up. You can try to use a Nickel on Westerkamp, but he's going to expose your 3rd best cover corner. If you take your number 1 guy and cover up Westy, you're leaving your self exposed on the edge vs Moore and Reilly. If you use a Safety for support on the back end, you're basically conceding Nebraska to go 5 to 7 yards a pop in the running game. If you cheat a safety in to stop the run, Nebraska is going to kill you in play action.

But it doesn't stop there. Morgan can replace any of the receivers out on the edge. Pierson - El is deadly in short to Intermediate routes. EVen if Nebraska subs their wideouts, they have enough depth to always force attention from the back 7. Somewhere Bill Callahan cries.

Nebraska can grind out the clock and put together long drives. They can get vertical. They have roughly 4 dudes who can carry the football on any play. They have a head spinning series of plays they can run out of any formation. The Buckeyes can run the ball on anyone, but also get a LOT more help from a devastating defense. That's where Ohio State is soooo much better than Nebraska.

So let's compare my comments to Ohio State. The Buckeyes are extremely talented. They are loaded. They are feasting on inferior and bad defenses. YOu can argue Nebraska hasn't played a good defense. That's fine. But The Buckeyes are explosive to a fault. You can't always rely on the big play, and you can't always rely on opposing defenses making terrible mistakes. Indiana slowed them quite a bit because the Hoosiers don't make mistakes on that side of the football.

They do have a better running back than anyone on Nebraska's roster though. Barrett won't make the occasional dumb play like Tommy. But from skill set standpoint, Tommy has a stronger arm and he's a better runner.

The proof will be in the pudding. How many future NFL guys does Ohio State have on its roster? How many does Nebraska have? Nebraska's offense is good, but no one objectively believes it's as good or better than Ohio State. There's no one on Nebraska that has the game-changing ability of Curtis Samuel. They have, arguably, the best offensive line in college football with a terrific veteran QB and a great young tailback. For good measure, they have a deep core of receivers.

I respect your passion, but you're not thinking very clearly. That Ohio State offense is explosive. Probably the best in the country. The numbers back it up. You were talking about Nebraska's balance but OSU averaging almost 100 yards more than Nebraska, while being fairly balanced too. Nebraska might well have a top-10 offense and that's a great thing. But we're comparing it to easily one of the best offenses in the country and probably the singular best.
 
The proof will be in the pudding. How many future NFL guys does Ohio State have on its roster? How many does Nebraska have? Nebraska's offense is good, but no one objectively believes it's as good or better than Ohio State. There's no one on Nebraska that has the game-changing ability of Curtis Samuel. They have, arguably, the best offensive line in college football with a terrific veteran QB and a great young tailback. For good measure, they have a deep core of receivers.

I respect your passion, but you're not thinking very clearly. That Ohio State offense is explosive. Probably the best in the country. The numbers back it up. You were talking about Nebraska's balance but OSU averaging almost 100 yards more than Nebraska, while being fairly balanced too. Nebraska might well have a top-10 offense and that's a great thing. But we're comparing it to easily one of the best offenses in the country and probably the singular best.

Jesus. Your offense has taken advantage of terrible defenses. Talent doesn't mean much when it's masked by inferior opponents with inexperience.

Westerkamp, Moore, Carter, Reilly, Gates, Morgan, Pierson El, and Knevel and Farmer will all play in the NFL. More importantly, mixed with Armstrong, they have ample experience with much better offensive coaching.

Tim Beck. All you have to do is look at Nebraska's 500 yards vs Michigan State last year and then see Ohio State with 180 despite having arguably the best running back in college football.

When you look at coaching, scheme, the collection of talent, and how teams have to defend the Huskers, its not a stretch to say Nebraska is better offensively.

Ohio State does have an elite running back
They also do have a great talent in Samuel. But Nebraska has a lot of experienced talent that fits into the various roles on the scheme. You have to defend them in everywhere.

...But.. again, that's only in they're healthy. Ohio State is more talented. They can absorb injuries. The Huskers can't. Ohio State has more talent, more depth, and a killer defense.

That makes them an All around better football team. But Nebraska, when healthy, has a much tougher team to defend. They can Spread you out, go ball control power, go vertical, go hurry up, and they can Trot out a lot of talented personnel.
 
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Jesus. Your offense has taken advantage of terrible defenses. Talent doesn't mean much when it's masked by inferior opponents with inexperience.

Westerkamp, Moore, Carter, Reilly, Gates, Morgan, Pierson El, and Knevel and Farmer will all play in the NFL. More importantly, mixed with Armstrong, they have ample experience with much better offensive coaching.

Tim Beck. All you have to do is look at Nebraska's 500 yards vs Michigan State last year and then see Ohio State with 180 despite having arguably the best running back in college football.

When you look at coaching, scheme, the collection of talent, and how teams have to defend the Huskers, its not a stretch to say Nebraska is better offensively.

Ohio State does have an elite running back
They also do have a great talent in Samuel. But Nebraska has a lot of experienced talent that fits into the various roles on the scheme. You have to defend them in everywhere.

...But.. again, that's only in they're healthy. Ohio State is more talented. They can absorb injuries. The Huskers can't. Ohio State has more talent, more depth, and a killer defense.

That makes them an All around better football team. But Nebraska, when healthy, has a much tougher team to defend. They can Spread you out, go ball control power, go vertical, go hurry up, and they can Trot out a lot of talented personnel.

First of all, who's "your" offense? Ohio State isn't 'my' team.

Anyhow, Ohio State is averaging 100 more yards a game, 10 more points a game, you admit they're deeper and more talented and will also have more NFL players. Somehow, despite all the evidence you've offered by your own acknowledgment, they're not a better offense? Not anyone outside of Lincoln would think Nebraska has a better offense. No offense, but you're just being a homer. I'm not even saying Nebraska hasn't been good but dude, slow down.

One other thing, you said Ohio State has taken advantage of terrible defenses..seriously? What defenses has Nebraska faced? Are you really making that comment when Nebraska's opposition consists of Fresno State, Wyoming, Oregon, Northwestern and Illlinois? Come on. You're being ridiculous.

Here are the national ranks of the defenses Nebraska has faced: 103, 93, 126, 70 & 58 (average: 90)
And the ranks of the defenses Ohio State has faced: 125, 57, 89, 104, 48 (average: 85)

So for as much as "my" offense (not mine) has taken advantage of 'terrible' defenses, Nebraska has been just as guilty. And despite this, Ohio State has been 100 yards and 10 points better against those same crappy defenses.
 
I need to see an injury list before I can confidently think Nebraska can cover the spread.

Indiana can't stop the run and their QB is a turnover prone statue. That type of matchup favors Nebraska. I also believe Nebraska, when healthy, has a better offense than Ohio State.

But that's the question... How healthy is Nebraska?

We know Carter and Westerkamp will be out. Moore is questionable. Armstrong spent last week in a walking boot. Reilly still has issues with his groin. Farmer is questionable. Knevel is questionable.
I wouldn't necessarily say Indiana can't stop the run. They were 40th in the nation against the run before visiting Columbus, & considering they allowed less than 400 yards in that game, I wouldn't underestimate them. Lagow is TO prone, although Wilson has been taking the ball out of his hands lately. Not sure if I'd call him a statue, he does have a rocket arm although inconsistent. This is a dangerous game for Nebraska, especially if the players think as little about IU as the fan base does(not to mention the injuries of NU), I think it's a much tougher/closer game than most seem to. The aforementioned turnover(s) battle will be vital.
 
I wouldn't necessarily say Indiana can't stop the run. They were 40th in the nation against the run before visiting Columbus, & considering they allowed less than 400 yards in that game, I wouldn't underestimate them. Lagow is TO prone, although Wilson has been taking the ball out of his hands lately. Not sure if I'd call him a statue, he does have a rocket arm although inconsistent. This is a dangerous game for Nebraska, especially if the players think as little about IU as the fan base does(not to mention the injuries of NU), I think it's a much tougher/closer game than most seem to. The aforementioned turnover(s) battle will be vital.

I'm Mike Riley and this is what I'm telling my team.
 
First of all, who's "your" offense? Ohio State isn't 'my' team.

Anyhow, Ohio State is averaging 100 more yards a game, 10 more points a game, you admit they're deeper and more talented and will also have more NFL players. Somehow, despite all the evidence you've offered by your own acknowledgment, they're not a better offense? Not anyone outside of Lincoln would think Nebraska has a better offense. No offense, but you're just being a homer. I'm not even saying Nebraska hasn't been good but dude, slow down.

One other thing, you said Ohio State has taken advantage of terrible defenses..seriously? What defenses has Nebraska faced? Are you really making that comment when Nebraska's opposition consists of Fresno State, Wyoming, Oregon, Northwestern and Illlinois? Come on. You're being ridiculous.

Here are the national ranks of the defenses Nebraska has faced: 103, 93, 126, 70 & 58 (average: 90)
And the ranks of the defenses Ohio State has faced: 125, 57, 89, 104, 48 (average: 85)

So for as much as "my" offense (not mine) has taken advantage of 'terrible' defenses, Nebraska has been just as guilty. And despite this, Ohio State has been 100 yards and 10 points better against those same crappy defenses.


You are totally missing the point.

OSU has great talent and against bad teams, they exploit their athletic advantage.

NU has very good talent. Their offense has shown the ability to move the ball in multiple sets, attacking the defense on all levels creating tough decisions for defensive coordinators.

It's two very different schemes. OP's point is that against a great defense NU's offense creates more problems for a defense. Yeah, speed kills. But if the opposing defense has speed too, you're left with scheme. I'll take Langsdorf's scheme over Beck's all day (Langsdorf 16, not 15).

By the way, I'll take Lamar Jackson and Louisville as the most explosive offense. OSU is probably top 5, they do have great talent.
 
This is a dangerous game for Nebraska, especially if the players think as little about IU as the fan base does(not to mention the injuries of NU), I think it's a much tougher/closer game than most seem to. The aforementioned turnover(s) battle will be vital.

After reading most of the posts on this board for the last ten days, I would say the fans respect IU just fine..... They are struggling to trust NU however, and are pretty gun shy to respect the top ten rating.
 
After reading most of the posts on this board for the last ten days, I would say the fans respect IU just fine..... They are struggling to trust NU however, and are pretty gun shy to respect the top ten rating.
Well, the top 10 rating is bogus considering who Nebraska has(hasn't)played, but we all know that's the way the rankings work, not Nebraska's fault. The Huskers shall try their damndest to not go the way of the Hawkeye, Golden Gopher, Terrapin & Spartan, all of whom reaffirmed that quality competition is the best way to measure a team.
 
Well, the top 10 rating is bogus considering who Nebraska has(hasn't)played, but we all know that's the way the rankings work, not Nebraska's fault. The Huskers shall try their damndest to not go the way of the Hawkeye, Golden Gopher, Terrapin & Spartan, all of whom reaffirmed that quality competition is the best way to measure a team.

Lol... Who is this quality competition?

North Dakota State?
Northwestern?
Penn State?
 
Lol... Who is this quality competition?

North Dakota State?
Northwestern?
Penn State?
Umm...I don't know exactly what you're referring to, but they all LOST when facing a STEP UP in competition. Is that better? & yes NDSU is quality competition, Northwestern doesn't really aplly--Iowa had already lost, & yes Penn State is quality competition, especially as compared to Marylands schedule previous to PSU. Michigan State lost to Indiana--the quality of whom you're about to discover is better than anyone Nebraska has played thus far. So, laugh out loud, or to yourself, or cry, I don't really care.
 
I wouldn't necessarily say Indiana can't stop the run. They were 40th in the nation against the run before visiting Columbus, & considering they allowed less than 400 yards in that game, I wouldn't underestimate them. Lagow is TO prone, although Wilson has been taking the ball out of his hands lately. Not sure if I'd call him a statue, he does have a rocket arm although inconsistent. This is a dangerous game for Nebraska, especially if the players think as little about IU as the fan base does(not to mention the injuries of NU), I think it's a much tougher/closer game than most seem to. The aforementioned turnover(s) battle will be vital.
Hell, we think little of IU? If you look on here, you'd think the fans have IU mixed up with Alabama... Think you failed to look at the comments on the board.
 
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Umm...I don't know exactly what you're referring to, but they all LOST when facing a STEP UP in competition. Is that better? & yes NDSU is quality competition, Northwestern doesn't really aplly--Iowa had already lost, & yes Penn State is quality competition, especially as compared to Marylands schedule previous to PSU. Michigan State lost to Indiana--the quality of whom you're about to discover is better than anyone Nebraska has played thus far. So, laugh out loud, or to yourself, or cry, I don't really care.
Odd that Northwestern doesn't count....heh
 
Hell, we think little of IU? If you look on here, you'd think the fans have IU mixed up with Alabama... Think you failed to look at the comments on the board.
Compared to Nebraska's sched. so far they might as well be 'Bama, that's the point, & with the injuries it's a scary game.
 
Odd that Northwestern doesn't count....heh
How could they? They 're 2-3 including a home losses to Illinois St. & Western Micigan, which are good teams but when you're a B1G team & you lose to them @ home you forfeit the "quality competition" label, at least temporarily. I think they are a decent team with potential, but they've been mediocre so far, & that is NU's best win so far which adds to the consternation this week. Frankly, I think any game against a B1G east opponent other than Rutgers is a tough assignment this year.
 
I pushed the button on Indiana plus 8 on Monday. Will hit Nebraska tomorrow, hoping it gets down to 2 1/2, if not I'll take the -3. Then hope like hell for a Nebraska 7 point victory.
 
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Hell, we think little of IU? If you look on here, you'd think the fans have IU mixed up with Alabama... Think you failed to look at the comments on the board.
Yeah-I don't know what boards he's been reading. People have been panicking about this game for awhile. Heck, I think the national media thinks more of our chances than many of our fans do.
 
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Yeah-I don't know what boards he's been reading. People have been panicking about this game for awhile. Heck, I think the national media thinks more of our chances than many of our fans do.

Ya don't suppose it has anything to do with our injuries on offense and this is Wilson best all around team he has had at Indiana.

Big test for our defense I'm looking forward to see how well we perform.
 
I went $$ line on Indiana. $10 to win $16. Either way, I'm a winner.

I know...worst Husker fan ever!
 
No excuses. If I hear how they get 2 percent better every day, the results should be way better. "There is plenty of talent, I don't want to hear any excuses".... if that was the mantra for paper-thin positions and horrible attitudes last year, it needs to be this year as well. Just because someone used to play here does not mean they should be given a free pass.

Hank would have led them to much greater heights no doubt and would have probably already had verbals from 4-5 stud dlinemen.
 
Hank would have led them to much greater heights no doubt and would have probably already had verbals from 4-5 stud dlinemen.
I don't know enough to comment on HH's coaching or recruiting, but the fact he always had a sharpened #2 pencil stuck behind his ear was downright annoying.
 
Gamblers dream
Gamblers can create this dream often with a tease. I'll tell you, it's very rare to middle 4 point movement and so you end up squandering away $10 if you bet $100 each way. Or $100 if you bet $1,000 each way. Anyway, I understand the proposition of risking $10 to win $200 and it's probably worth it, but I'd just read a game the way I like it and play it outright and not mess around with the middle action.
 
Gamblers can create this dream often with a tease. I'll tell you, it's very rare to middle 4 point movement and so you end up squandering away $10 if you bet $100 each way. Or $100 if you bet $1,000 each way. Anyway, I understand the proposition of risking $10 to win $200 and it's probably worth it, but I'd just read a game the way I like it and play it outright and not mess around with the middle action.

I didn't really mess around looking for it. My formula said Nebraska would come out as a 4 to 5 point favorite. When it opened at 8, I jumped on Indiana. Then as it fell past 4 to 3, I jumped on Nebraska. Lines don't usually adjust past 7 and 3. Now it is back to 4 when I looked last.

I guess that's why it's called gambling,
 
Are you really advocating using teasers to set up middles? God, i hope not.
 
Wisconsin is -5.5 and Ohio St -20.5 and Iowa -1 over Nebraska as well be interesting to see those lines week of the games
 
Wisconsin is -5.5 and Ohio St -20.5 and Iowa -1 over Nebraska as well be interesting to see those lines week of the games
How the heck is Iowa favored over us? Is it we are a couple points better, but they get a swing for a home game?
 
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