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Two thumbs up to Eichorst.
Two thumbs up to Eichorst.
No Extension for Coach Miles
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I am not a fan of Miles. Never have been. Thought it was another "bargain basement" Osborne hire. There was some brief excitement for the latter half of one season, and a decent upgrade in recruiting, but it is still the same ol' woeful Husker hoops as far as I can see.
All THAT said, I still don't like the coaching carousel syndrome and I do like to give a guy a chance to build something. And this non extension could severely hurt recruiting if we have another mediocre to poor season. So it seems Eichorst is getting serious here because he knows this too. He is giving Miles an ultimatum: seriously improve this year or you are toast. We did not build a 300 million dollar arena to watch Danny Nee part II
Real good move by Eichorst. This will put additional emphasis on the upcoming season; swim and get rewarded or sink and Miles is on the hot seat. The downside is, making the dance and someone else comes calling.
Disagree on 2 years. Shawn won't be able to go back-to-back years without some type of extension or it'll hurt the program even more. The way I see it, Miles either shows improvement which results in an extension back to four or more years or he's in trouble.
Come on man, he's brought in a collection of talent we haven't had in Lincoln in 20 years. That's more than a "decent upgrade in recruiting", regardless what one thinks of his coaching results.
Disagree on 2 years. Shawn won't be able to go back-to-back years without some type of extension or it'll hurt the program even more. The way I see it, Miles either shows improvement which results in an extension back to four or more years or he's in trouble.
Come on man, he's brought in a collection of talent we haven't had in Lincoln in 20 years. That's more than a "decent upgrade in recruiting", regardless what one thinks of his coaching results.
Exactly. This is the year for Miles to show significant improvement or he is out in my opinion. My God, if a freaking craphole school like Butler can make a final four, we ought to be able to play better basketball than the garbage we saw last year
$180 million arena, not built by the University and I'd take Danny Nee part II all over again. Post-season play 8 of the last 9 seasons. 5 times in the dance and 4 in the NIT, with a title, quarterfinal and 2 second round finishes.
That right there would put the program in extremely good standing. Once again, something we haven't had in 18 years.
Ha. Ok. 180 million. But the point still stands. The city of Lincoln cooperated with developers to build the arena for a lot of different reasons. But one big reason was clearly our hoops program. The city hoped a very good bball program would add dollars to the downtown/haymarket area.
As for Nee... Meh. You are correct that I would take his record over Miles's in a heartbeat. But Nee never won a tournament game. Thus I still count his time here largely a failure. And maybe I am in the minority but I don't give a crap about the NIT
I have a feeling that if you care about basketball at all, that's puts you in the relative minority among Nebraska fans.
Goodness gracious. Haymarket development is way less about basketball, in the dead of winter, than it is for football and to spice up that area in general. 19 home games, 10 of them on the weekend in Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb - good luck banking an entire development on basketball. In Nebraska.
Nee's time as a failure, interesting coming from someone with two failed responses in this thread.
We did not build a 300 million dollar arena to watch Danny Nee part II
i'm sorry but at this point I would love to see a danny nee part II. tourney berths, high seeds all that was missing was a tourney win.
If you would bother to read my actual post then you will see that I said the arena was built for "a lot of reasons", not just hoops. And if you think Husker hoops were a trivial and unimportant part of the decision to build the arena then it is you who are delusional.
But despite all of that you miss my damn point: Miles has been the beneficiary of the BEST facilities in the history of Husker hoops and he still can't seem to turn the corner. I could not care less really about how much the arena cost or who built it or why. That is all a red herring and is missing my deeper point. Miles has great facilities. Now do something with them!
As for Nee, once again read my post. I said I would take his record over Miles's in a heartbeat. But come on... I think what we all want is for Husker hoops to be relevant and competing for championships. It has never been at that level. That is where I want it. Nee got us closer to that goal than any Husker coach of my life. And yet... I still count him a failure. We will just have to agree to disagree here because maybe we have different goals in mind for Husker hoops
Ha. Actually I do care about Husker hoops. Go figure.I have a feeling that if you care about basketball at all, that's puts you in the relative minority among Nebraska fans.
Take your own advice, as my reply was about the Haymarket development, not Pinnacle Bank Arena itself. I read your post, you're the one that brought up the area which is exactly what my response was about.
I didn't miss your point, although the Devaney Center was state-of-the-art when it was built circa 1973. The same was said back then, top notch facilities but here we are 43 years later discussing the exact same thing.
I read your Nee comments, you now said twice he's a failure. That's all I need to read from you to ever take you serious.
To get the thread back on track, I'll refrain from responding to you.
Fine. Don't respond. But you are singularly obtuse and unnecessarily snarky. I brought up Haymarket development only to spotlight one of the reasons the city wanted to build the arena. So the arena and its purposes were always my main focus and not the Haymarket as such. And so the point stands however tangential: Husker hoops was one important reason for the arena. And a successful hoops program would help the Haymarket. And all of that puts pressure on Miles. Now why is that so damned stupid or insipid or controversial in your book?
And yes, the Devaney Center was state of the art. But that only shows that good facilities are only one part of the equation when it comes to building a successful program. On that I am sure we agree. But even still I would argue that the new arena is even more impressive in our time than the Devaney Center was in its time. And add in its location close to downtown ... well, the old fairgrounds were bucolic and all, but the new location has mojo that Devaney lacked.
And I will say it a third time: Nee failed. He was fired right??
Outstanding work by Eichorst.
Also, if Miles ever accomplishes what Nee did at Nebraska, they'll probably name the floor after him the way hype machines get going for recent coaches(everywhere in America, not just nebraska) these days.
In addition, Kari Miles has zero chance of ever accomplishing what Janet Lee did while she was in Lincoln.
Also, if Miles ever accomplishes what Nee did at Nebraska, they'll probably name the floor after him the way hype machines get going for recent coaches(everywhere in America, not just nebraska) these days.
In addition, Kari Miles has zero chance of ever accomplishing what Janet Lee did while she was in Lincoln.
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Have not, but I'm guessing this is some criptic message making an assumption that he and I are the same? You'd be wrong though.
Just ran a search for posts by him, and it looks like the last time he posted, just before he took a vacation or got vacationed, was shortly after your back-and-forth tantrums in the thread about Robert Porcher? You get sent to the corner after that one too?
Ha. Now there is an incentive. Now I am beginning to understand the pro Nee sentiment on here.
Yes. I would too. So I guess I have to retract the Nee part II comment and revise it to "Sadler part II", except I think Miles is better than Sadler. Whatever. Miles just needs to produce this year based on the non extension of his contract. And rightly so.
I saw Dave Hoppen in the old arena.We do want an above .500 in the conference.It's not that we don't care,hell Sadler cared.We are so hungry for consistency in the program that being un-consistent drives us crazy.I like Tim,and hope he can turn it around.By the way, that NIT title was a nice run,don't care what anyone says.
Unless you were on Scout, it isn't me. Long time member over there, mostly a lurker due to work, really liked what Munson brought to that site. When he switched to here, I tried the trial membership but didn't like the toxicity so I've lurked here on and off. My nine year membership on Scout ended in June so I decided to check Rivals out again since there's no cost to post on this subforum.
I also lurk a little on HM, might open up an account there. I'm just a 61 year old Husker fan from Bellevue, closing in on retirement and loving every minute of the free time after busting my tail for the last 46 years. Our last child is prepping for his first year at UNL, just like both his grandparents, his two sisters, many uncles, aunts, cousins as well as my wife and I.
Since I shared too much, how about you?
I thought your style of posts as well your knowledge of block quoting several responses and tagging posters was reminiscent of a shadowy poster who went by HTO, Bubblegum, Bill Jennings, etc. I'm a 29 year old Husker fan that's been on these boards about 12 years. Some might consider me a controversial poster but I call it like I see it.
Block quoting allowed you to think I'm someone I'm not, interesting to say the least. Funny story, I found that option on accident since I hit it instead of the reply button so that's why I've used it a few times.
Hopefully your other calls are better than the one you made in this thread. 29 years old, so much life in front of you so make sure to enjoy it!
I like Miles in general, but think he needs to take a look in the mirror a bit. I'm not sure he has done a great job with in game coaching decisions in the last couple of seasons. Also not sure why there seems to be team chemistry/assistant coach issues that have seemed to linger. Finally, the number of technical fouls he gets at critical times bothers me.
I'm in Miles' camp and I think he is building a program for the future. You simply can't flip a program like Nebraska's into top tier overnight.
That said, I think the auto-extensions for coaches is stupid. If these contracts handcuff programs when they have to move, then it suggests to me that they are overpaying.
On the coaches side - more power to them, if they can keep getting it, then that is their fair market value.
But in the big picture, I think coaches should have a 4-5 year deal and at the end of that deal they should be retained or moved on. Now I realize in the real world, that is severely unlikely because there are other programs that are always trying to one up the competition.
That said, I think the auto-extensions for coaches is stupid. If these contracts handcuff programs when they have to move, then it suggests to me that they are overpaying.
On the coaches side - more power to them, if they can keep getting it, then that is their fair market value.
But in the big picture, I think coaches should have a 4-5 year deal and at the end of that deal they should be retained or moved on. Now I realize in the real world, that is severely unlikely because there are other programs that are always trying to one up the competition.
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