That does happen from time to time.You missed his sarcasm.
That does happen from time to time.You missed his sarcasm.
Well that's just cryptic enough to be unassailable, isn't it?
So how should we feel about this as fans, especially those of us with daughters. I for one am embarrassed.Let me help.
Lancaster County Attorney Joe Kelly said at a Wednesday morning press conference that filing charges "would require proof beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime had occurred. That simply is not there" in this case.
If the State feels it cannot gain a conviction, and that require the State to prove each and every element of the charged offence beyond a reasonable doubt, then the State cannot file a charge.
A bunch of college people were having a party at someone's house until the wee hours of the morning. The police got involved since later in the day someone filed a rape charge. Yes, I assumed alcohol was consumed at the house even though I had no proof of it. What the hell was I thinking?You stopped hanging out at home? Who said there was booze involved?
A bunch of college people were having a party at someone's house until the wee hours of the morning. The police got involved since later in the day someone filed a rape charge. Yes, I assumed alcohol was consumed at the house even though I had no proof of it. What the hell was I thinking?
I don't disbelieve that you've heard something with very few degrees of separation to it. That doesn't really alter the outcome. My stance is that I wouldn't trust what anyone says about anything to do with this regardless of who they are. Not saying you're lying, but unless you were standing right there with a video camera, we still can't know if what you were told is what actually happened.You asked a question, I answered the question and gave reason to why I've remained quite on the subject. You can attack it all you want, I couldn't care less.
Well that's just cryptic enough to be unassailable, isn't it?
Doesn't particularly matter for my purposes. With stakes this high, I wouldn't believe anything I didn't see with my own eyes AND hear with my own ears. Too much incentive for stories to be altered, too much subjectivity to when something starts/stops being consensual, etc.
Please quote the actual information that was provided. I have until about 2:00.You can't handle actual information. Just information. Got it.
Please quote the actual information that was provided. I have until about 2:00.
but unless you were standing right there with a video camera, we still can't know if what you were told is what actually happened.
There was no reference I can recall to 6 people. Armstrong was quoted by the OWH that "We had people over" and also said they were "partying". I assume there were at least 5. Regardless, Merriam Webster online dictionary defines "bunch" as "a group of people or things that are together or are associated with each other in some way". The dictionary does not define a numerical value for "group".6 is a "bunch of college kids"?
Geezus christmas dude, you're something else.
Not sure how to take this... What more can be done? The police and DA have weighed in and said, no case. Even if the story is believable, it can't be proven. If there isn't enough evidence to support any action, do we still proceed forward with the prosecution?So how should we feel about this as fans, especially those of us with daughters. I for one am embarrassed.
Yawn, you're sounding like @redthru&thru now.
For the second time, you're something else.There was no reference I can recall to 6 people. Armstrong was quoted by the OWH that "We had people over" and also said they were "partying". I assume there were at least 5. Regardless, Merriam Webster online dictionary defines "bunch" as "a group of people or things that are together or are associated with each other in some way". The dictionary does not define a numerical value for "group".
You can stop right there.I'm sure you did hear something
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I have a 14 year old daughter as well, but we have no names, now no charges, so the only thing we can do now is go Rape Iowa Hawkeyes on live television for everyone to see...yea bad joke im sure...but we will beat Iowa now that we know for sure we have Tommy Armstrong at QB and Westercamp at WR.
Peschong said , I believe her. Not believable but he does believe her. I am in belief that this is scary if a girl is involved with athletes on any campus.Not sure how to take this... What more can be done? The police and DA have weighed in and said, no case. Even if the story is believable, it can't be proven. If there isn't enough evidence to support any action, do we still proceed forward with the prosecution?
I have 3 daughters... I have a junior in high school and twin 8th graders... It scares me to think about what they will face when they get to college. At the same time, it is my responsibility to make sure they understand what the risks are at the college scene. I can only do so much.
If the police and DA have done their job diligently, we have nothing to be embarrassed about. I'm not saying nothing happened, but the authorities can only do so much in the absence of evidence.
You can stop right there.
No, you couldn't as your speculation is wrong to begin with.I could, but then how could we go on for two more pages even though we mostly agree?
Legitimately don't know which part of which of my posts you're referring to.No, you couldn't as your speculation is wrong to begin with.
Legitimately don't know which part of which of my posts you're referring to.
Exactly the kind of response I expected. Have good turkey!Not surprised, enjoy the long weekend.
Oh so you WERE in the room and know firsthand what happened? Or is it that you took a sworn affidavit from either the accuser or the accused? Because the only speculating I've done is that however close your source may be, you didn't see it happen, so there's potential for somebody to have been misinformed or to have lied to you. Did you see it happen, Tim?Says the speculator that couldn't tell his ass from his head and admitted so. Click, join the other worthless ones.
No(she will not be charge),,,does not mean it did or did not happen...just not enough to go forwardEvidence actually, but in all seriousness, is the girl then going to be charged for a wrongful accusation? If there truly is nothing going and I hope there isn't, is she no liable for false reporting?
Do we have any lawyers in the house?
Uptight and all business, what i expected. But my douche post isnt getting pulled, i do hope we tear Iowa apart and leave it all on the field.
Is there a code of conduct at Nebraska??? We had an incident like this at the U of Iowa a few years back with Marcus Coker and if I can remember, Coach Ferentz or the U of Iowa suspended him right away from all football activities and he eventually left school. Does Nebraska have a code of conduct rule???No(she will not be charge),,,does not mean it did or did not happen...just not enough to go forward
Is there a code of conduct at Nebraska??? We had an incident like this at the U of Iowa a few years back with Marcus Coker and if I can remember, Coach Ferentz or the U of Iowa suspended him right away from all football activities and he eventually left school. Does Nebraska have a code of conduct rule???
Is it even known that a football player is the accused?Is there a code of conduct at Nebraska??? We had an incident like this at the U of Iowa a few years back with Marcus Coker and if I can remember, Coach Ferentz or the U of Iowa suspended him right away from all football activities and he eventually left school. Does Nebraska have a code of conduct rule???
Is there one at Iowa?
"Iowa had the second-most charged or alleged criminals on its football team in 2011, according to a study done by Sports Illustrated in March of last year. The only school with more bad eggs than the Hawkeyes' 18 was Pittsburgh with 22."
@Hawkeye King must've swallowed his feet.The Most Arrested College Football Teams In America
"Iowa and Iowa State represents the most felonious rivalry in college football.* *Between two teams that never win anything."
lol
Iowa at #12, tied with Alabama. Sadly, unlike Bamma, Iowa has nothing to show for it.
Tim when you get a chance check your email....sent a question ...thanks@Hawkeye King must've swallowed his feet.
How about if a player was involved?Before I give my two cents....I would like to know if it was established for fact that alcohol was involved.
For some reason I can't respond via Yahoo app, you're 110% accurate though. When I'm around my latop this weekend, I'll send you my real email addy which is tied to my phone, I rarely check the Yahoo one.Tim when you get a chance check your email....sent a question ...thanks
http://journalstar.com/news/local/9...cle_4d9642bd-3f93-504c-b837-3972be2f2e1b.html
"I believe the victim," Peschong said, but “we do not believe we have the elements of a crime.”
So how should we feel about this as fans, especially those of us with daughters. I for one am embarrassed.