NFL draft 2025
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I want this dude to solidify Raiola as a top 5 pick.
Brining that sorta appeal back to the program would be the most important thing to happen to this program in the 21st century.
I don’t think a single one of those guys at this juncture is better than even Bo Nix.
Also, didn’t Arch say he plans on staying for his senior year?
Remember the weight on the Refrigerator Perry’s football card at 305 - didn’t think it was possible. 464 is insane.
I wish that social media whore would name off the "many" in the media who claimed racism. I follow the draft closely before, during and after. I cannot recall a single person claiming racism-- many Ryan Clark, Steven A Smith? Not sure on that one.
My Steelers may well have gotten a late round gem in Will Howard. Since most of those guys are backup QB prospects anyway, getting a national champion QB in the sixth round is good value.
Add Will Howard to the list. Plus Kyle McCord and at least 10 others, maybe more.
Probably not the 2nd pick, but he could go in the first round. Ewers was mocked in the 1st at this time a year ago. Allar has better traits than Ewers. Ewers is also shorter and played so erratically, playing with elite NFL prospects at Texas, that few if any teams believed in him anymore.
Side note: Ewers fell further in the draft than Sanders if you go by some predictions.
I don't watch ESPN and hadn't seen this clip. It just goes to show you how Mel has been able to be so successful over the years. He misses on lots of his own projections over the years but forgets about all of that and is hyper critical of everyone else. Mel's from the same mold of Woody Page, Colin Cow Herd, Steven A Smith, Skip Bayless and other jackasses.
Ole Miss had eight players drafted- Dart, Walter Nolan, Tre Harris, Trey Amos... I think all eight of their guys who got drafted were tranfers.
Oregon had ten players drafted- seven were transfers. The Ducks flat out bought themselves a defensive line with three players drafted and one in the first round.
Whatever you do, don't compare the quality of our transfers to the transfer talent on some of these other teams. It is not pretty!
His agent got him signed as an undrafted free agent. Drew Rosenhaus supposedly got him onto the Bucs. It's no secret that certain agents have good relationships with certain teams. Drew has represented several former Bucs players.
Incorrect.
Ewers never “fell.” He was evaluated for his value once he declared, NFL teams weren’t releasing their mock drafts a year ago.
Allar will “fall” for the same reason; NFL teams don’t view them as guys who elevate their team into considerably more wins than without him.
Before Allar, Penn State was the perpetual 3rd-4th best team in the conference who couldn’t win games. They are exactly the same team with him the last two years.
Guys like Cam Ward and JJ McCarthy (who I still think is overrated) shot up the draft board because scouts see them as the difference between a significant number of wins.
You misunderstood, but that's OK. Mock drafts are put out by pundits and that creates public perception. Ewers had an up & down year. It obviously hurt his draft prospects. The NFL views him as a jag so that put him in a position where he could slide in the draft.
I doubt that "elavating a team" is as big factor as you are implying. Too many variables such as how good is the backup? Strength of schedule? The previous QB Sean Clifford is on an NFL team and was a decent player in college. How well a player plays in college matters a lot but if a guy has elite traits that's more important. Clifford didn't have that, but Allar apparently does.
We shall see what happens with Drew Allar. He's got a strong arm, supposedly can make any throw. He'll have a lot of starts under his belt which the NFL values. He's got issues with his accuracy that needs to improve. I would bet that he goes in the top 10 next year or certainly in the first round. I did see that FanDuel has him as #4 in their current odds to go first in the 2026 draft at about 5/1. My Steelers aren't going to let him fall out of the first round.
Yeah, I’m well aware who makes the mock drafts, it’s your own childish notion that teams viewed him as a 1st rounder this time last year, but he “fell” after this season and it is somehow related to NFL teams looking at mock drafts like the stock market.
Nobody who spent serious time watching Ewers play thought he was a first rounder.
Same with Clifford, same with McSorely, and soon to be same with Allar.
As for “elevating the team” not being a factor in why teams draft a certain QB. That’s such a dumb statement that I’m not really sure what to tell you.
You appear to be incapable of discussing much of anything without misinterpreting what others you disagree with are actually saying and then inserting your insults with your reply. For the record, I never said teams viewed Ewers as a first rounder. Second, I never said "elevating a team" wasn't a factor teams consider. I said it's not as big of a factor as you seem to think.
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I see you're walking this one back, good choice.
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence, Bryce Young, Caleb Williams, and Cam Ward.
Tell me which of their respective college teams would've had the same number of wins without them.
You can't because each team was (will be in Cam Ward's case) immediately worse when they lost him.
I'm not sure that you ever read what I actually wrote.
USC probably wins seven without Williams running all over the place. Caleb's backup passed for six TD's in the bowl game. The others would be tough to match wins with because they played on great teams that didn't lose many games, but you also limited your list to recent top draft picks. Ward is a good example of elevating a team but if Ward's backup was Arch Manning or some other stud would teams have dropped Ward's stock? I doubt it.
I did, but I understand you regret saying something so stupid.
USC got much better with Caleb Williams, OU got much worse without him. It won him the heisman and the #1 overall pick. Simple as that.
My list was the last five #1 overall picks, after which LSU regressed, Clemson regressed, Alabama regressed, USC regressed, and Miami will likely regress as well.. Do you want to go further?
You mean if Ward's backup consistently came in and played just as well? Sure, and if your aunt had wheels she'd be a bicycle
Good lord, your thoughts all over the place. No sense in continuing this nonsense.
