Next Shoe to Drop - Academics

[rgrachek]

Here in the south, there's a lot of talk now of not requiring college athletes to be actual students, but rather the Universities would create degree programs in the sports that the athletes play, essentially allowing college athletes to get a degree in football, basketball, baseball, etc. The curriculum would be set by the athletic department, essentially exempting the players from any of the other academic requirements of the University. The thing that they're battling with is whether this curriculum would be mandatory to play sports or whether athletes could opt to be regular students, which would place them at a serious competitive disadvantage. It just keeps getting worse, and if you don't believe it's possible, let me ask whether 10 years ago you could have imagined legitimately paying a QB 1-2 million dollars to play at your school.

 

[knightwxc5000]

Might as well just make them employees

 

[skunkman]

Here in the south, there's a lot of talk now of not requiring college athletes to be actual students, but rather the Universities would create degree programs in the sports that the athletes play, essentially allowing college athletes to get a degree in football, basketball, baseball, etc. The curriculum would be set by the athletic department, essentially exempting the players from any of the other academic requirements of the University. The thing that they're battling with is whether this curriculum would be mandatory to play sports or whether athletes could opt to be regular students, which would place them at a serious competitive disadvantage. It just keeps getting worse, and if you don't believe it's possible, let me ask whether 10 years ago you could have imagined legitimately paying a QB 1-2 million dollars to play at your school.

Ten years ago you paid them under the table

 

[xbluehawk]

Ten years ago you paid them under the table

And hope they didn't get caught having a free sandwich! Who remembers that??

 

[RoryMurray]

Ten years ago you paid them under the table

Exactly. It’s been going on forever, just illegally.

Cam Newton’s dad’s asking price to Auburn, Barry Switzer’s “if you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying”, etc, etc, etc, etc….

 

[zar45]

Here in the south, there's a lot of talk now of not requiring college athletes to be actual students, but rather the Universities would create degree programs in the sports that the athletes play, essentially allowing college athletes to get a degree in football, basketball, baseball, etc. The curriculum would be set by the athletic department, essentially exempting the players from any of the other academic requirements of the University. The thing that they're battling with is whether this curriculum would be mandatory to play sports or whether athletes could opt to be regular students, which would place them at a serious competitive disadvantage. It just keeps getting worse, and if you don't believe it's possible, let me ask whether 10 years ago you could have imagined legitimately paying a QB 1-2 million dollars to play at your school.

Many P5 football players are there with hopes of playIng professionally. Having classes on schemes, techniques, nutrition, psychology, management, etc. could set them up well for the NFL, coaching, trainers, sports media.

 

[skunkman]

Many P5 football players are there with hopes of playIng professionally. Having classes on schemes, techniques, nutrition, psychology, management, etc. could set them up well for the NFL, coaching, trainers, sports media.

Don’t for get basket weaving

 

[zar45]

Don’t for get basket weaving

Where else would you put the post game oranges?

 

[RoryMurray]

And let’s be real, a lot of the athletes in major D1 sports (football and basketball) are barely students the way it is. They definitely aren’t students in the traditional sense. They have every resource given to them to get passing grades in ridiculously easy classes.

Now, some major D1 athletes are very much top students earning very hard degrees. But, I’d wager they’re the exception to the rule.

 

[Husker06]

Here in the south, there's a lot of talk now of not requiring college athletes to be actual students, but rather the Universities would create degree programs in the sports that the athletes play, essentially allowing college athletes to get a degree in football, basketball, baseball, etc. The curriculum would be set by the athletic department, essentially exempting the players from any of the other academic requirements of the University. The thing that they're battling with is whether this curriculum would be mandatory to play sports or whether athletes could opt to be regular students, which would place them at a serious competitive disadvantage. It just keeps getting worse, and if you don't believe it's possible, let me ask whether 10 years ago you could have imagined legitimately paying a QB 1-2 million dollars to play at your school.

By "here in the south," do you mean the local Diner you and the other relics meet at each morning to decide which clouds to yell at?

 

[IM4NUalways]

Might as well just make them employees

It's coming. Along with revenue sharing

 

[Norva]

Might as well just make them employees

It’s where it’s going. Why would a million care about school?

 

[skunkman]

By "here in the south," do you mean the local Diner you and the other relics meet at each morning to decide which clouds to yell at?

Yeah!
Damn Ranchers!

 

[Hokie&HuskerFan]

Here in the south, there's a lot of talk now of not requiring college athletes to be actual students, but rather the Universities would create degree programs in the sports that the athletes play, essentially allowing college athletes to get a degree in football, basketball, baseball, etc. The curriculum would be set by the athletic department, essentially exempting the players from any of the other academic requirements of the University. The thing that they're battling with is whether this curriculum would be mandatory to play sports or whether athletes could opt to be regular students, which would place them at a serious competitive disadvantage. It just keeps getting worse, and if you don't believe it's possible, let me ask whether 10 years ago you could have imagined legitimately paying a QB 1-2 million dollars to play at your school.

I sincerely hope not. A college education is a transformative thing for many of these student/athletes. Most of them are not going to go pro in a sport. But if they manage to get their degree (which the vast majority of student/athletes do), it comes with higher earning potential etc.

What exactly would a degree in football qualify a person to do? Especially if it means you didn't take any basic college classes like Math, English, etc.

 

[RVAHusker]

Ten years ago you paid them under the table

4 years ago

 

[BushAK]

I’ll just wait here patiently for OP to share the evidence for his story he made up for attention.

 

[Husker319]

Many P5 football players are there with hopes of playIng professionally. Having classes on schemes, techniques, nutrition, psychology, management, etc. could set them up well for the NFL, coaching, trainers, sports media.

But how many of them actually make it to that level? Why waste your education and degree on something which will completely worthless outside of playing professionally?

 

[StrongArm517]

I not going there to play college.

…..random athlete

 

[tuffout33]

Workforce in 25 years is going to be a disaster .

 

[zar45]

But how many of them actually make it to that level? Why waste your education and degree on something which will completely worthless outside of playing professionally?

Coaching, playing, media, athletic department admin, etc. hundred thousand jobs?

 

[LagunaHusker]

Assuming that football degree would be a BA from the school of liberal arts. Would have to stay away from that hard algebra 2.

 

[RoryMurray]

Workforce in 25 years is going to be a disaster .

It’s probably safe to say every aging generation says that about the next one coming.

 

[BushAK]

It’s probably safe to say every aging generation says that about the next one coming.

It's a time-honored tradition. I'm looking forward to doing it myself while yelling at the neighbor kids for kicking a ball into my yard.

You can also find the belief "that no one wants to work anymore" transcends generations.

 

[rgrachek]

Ten years ago you paid them under the table

True, but no one was making $1-2 M. We're talking about $100 hand shakes and in the extreme cases, renting a house for your parents.

By "here in the south," do you mean the local Diner you and the other relics meet at each morning to decide which clouds to yell at?

Sports talk radio. I don't meet anyone at a diner in the morning, too busy working making probably 20 times what you make.

 

[marlon_fan]

Here in the south, there's a lot of talk now of not requiring college athletes to be actual students, but rather the Universities would create degree programs in the sports that the athletes play, essentially allowing college athletes to get a degree in football, basketball, baseball, etc. The curriculum would be set by the athletic department, essentially exempting the players from any of the other academic requirements of the University. The thing that they're battling with is whether this curriculum would be mandatory to play sports or whether athletes could opt to be regular students, which would place them at a serious competitive disadvantage. It just keeps getting worse, and if you don't believe it's possible, let me ask whether 10 years ago you could have imagined legitimately paying a QB 1-2 million dollars to play at your school.

There's nothing wrong with this concept. A bit premature to presume that a degree in a particular sport wouldn't have any value once the athlete graduates. I'm old enough to remember when 'student' athletes would go semesters at a time without stepping foot in a classroom.

 

[rgrachek]

It's a time-honored tradition. I'm looking forward to doing it myself while yelling at the neighbor kids for kicking a ball into my yard.

You can also find the belief "that no one wants to work anymore" transcends generations.

Definition of an arrogant prick? Someone who makes fun of people who are their elders for no reason than they disagree with them. Everyone who is older was once younger, and the ones who succeeded are the ones who weren't arrogant pricks who, to win a debate, made fun of someone's age, as if that even matters in a discussion about sports, other than the older person probably knows 10X what the younger person knows.

What's next for you? Call someone out because they're not your race? Make fun of someone because of their gender? Why not bash little children because they're not like you. How about going after people because of their religion? People who say stupid shit like you said seem to have not thought things through.

BTW, I love it when the neighbor kids play in my big yard, even though my kids are in their 30s, Jerk.

 

[RoryMurray]

True, but no one was making $1-2 M. We're talking about $100 hand shakes and in the extreme cases, renting a house for your parents.

Sports talk radio. I don't meet anyone at a diner in the morning, too busy working making probably 20 times what you make.

Players have been paid a lot more than $100 handshakes for a long time.

 

[zar45]

It’s probably safe to say every aging generation says that about the next one coming.

 

[BradWesley]

Exactly. It’s been going on forever, just illegally.

Cam Newton’s dad’s asking price to Auburn, Barry Switzer’s “if you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying”, etc, etc, etc, etc….

Old school LSU Freek

 

[singlet]

Let's say that you left college with a BA in football, but you didn't make an NFL team. Would your degree be less useful than a gender studies degree? Or even a business marketing degree?

Discuss.

 

[Husker06]

True, but no one was making $1-2 M. We're talking about $100 hand shakes and in the extreme cases, renting a house for your parents.

Sports talk radio. I don't meet anyone at a diner in the morning, too busy working making probably 20 times what you make.

I’m an attorney. But if I’d chased this dream my whole life (as I assume you did yours) instead of ****ing around in the Army for peanuts, I might also be a bougie asshole by now like you.

 

[HuskerLouie]

This will not go well and its stupid and even beyond stupid. . Its sad that so many players have not had the proper academic chances growing up and they are not prepared for college. The athletes already get tutors and help that other college student do not and they don't put in the effort. There are many great athletes who didnt make it big and have nothing after college. Thats a problem that no one seems to care about.

 

[Phil DeGrave]

Here in the south, there's a lot of talk now of not requiring college athletes to be actual students, but rather the Universities would create degree programs in the sports that the athletes play, essentially allowing college athletes to get a degree in football, basketball, baseball, etc. The curriculum would be set by the athletic department, essentially exempting the players from any of the other academic requirements of the University. The thing that they're battling with is whether this curriculum would be mandatory to play sports or whether athletes could opt to be regular students, which would place them at a serious competitive disadvantage. It just keeps getting worse, and if you don't believe it's possible, let me ask whether 10 years ago you could have imagined legitimately paying a QB 1-2 million dollars to play at your school.

Have a good friend whose major was Sports recreation. He partied through ASU and is now Sr VP of sales and marketing for Troon.
His weekly "business trips" are what we'd call a 4/5* vacation.

 

[rgrachek]

I’m an attorney. But if I’d chased this dream my whole life (as I assume you did yours) instead of ****ing around in the Army for peanuts, I might also be a bougie asshole by now like you.

You know, you're the one who challenged me and you have the nerve to call me an asshole when I send it back? Do you kick hornets nests and get mad when they come out a sting?

 

[rgrachek]

Many P5 football players are there with hopes of playIng professionally. Having classes on schemes, techniques, nutrition, psychology, management, etc. could set them up well for the NFL, coaching, trainers, sports media.

Yeah, like a kid who gets a degree in Football is going to be a trainer! You need some medical education for that, and any kid who has dreams of the league isn't going to want to tape the ankles of the ones who do make it.

Also, what you're essentially saying is that you don't need a college education to be a coach, trainer, or work in sports media (this says a lot).

 

[argon]

Here in the south, there's a lot of talk now of not requiring college athletes to be actual students, but rather the Universities would create degree programs in the sports that the athletes play, essentially allowing college athletes to get a degree in football, basketball, baseball, etc. The curriculum would be set by the athletic department, essentially exempting the players from any of the other academic requirements of the University. The thing that they're battling with is whether this curriculum would be mandatory to play sports or whether athletes could opt to be regular students, which would place them at a serious competitive disadvantage. It just keeps getting worse, and if you don't believe it's possible, let me ask whether 10 years ago you could have imagined legitimately paying a QB 1-2 million dollars to play at your school.

In the south were they ever students?

 

[zar45]

Yeah, like a kid who gets a degree in Football is going to be a trainer! You need some medical education for that, and any kid who has dreams of the league isn't going to want to tape the ankles of the ones who do make it.

Also, what you're essentially saying is that you don't need a college education to be a coach, trainer, or work in sports media (this says a lot).

wrong kind of trainer. Think Michael rose ivy, Casey Thompson, Kevin Williams.

Rhule started coaching with a bachelor’s in Poli sci. Jason Garrett a History degree. Doug Marrone a liberal arts degree. Eddie Jordan had no degree.

 

[BlueValleyHusker]

This comes back to what's the value of a college education if it's not in a specialty like accounting for example where you can get hired? My niece has a journalism degree and just took a job as a customer service rep.

 

[Husker06]

You know, you're the one who challenged me and you have the nerve to call me an asshole when I send it back? Do you kick hornets nests and get mad when they come out a sting?

I’m not angry at all. It’s the internet. Lighten up.

 

[rss428]

I've always wondered why this wasn't a thing already. Stuff like this would be huge for a team like NW that typically requires higher academic standards. They could loosen up those requirements for "students" in those programs.