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Nepotism Plagues the Program

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Nepotism has plagued the program since Osborne left...

Solich: Hired essentially because he was Osborne's OC
Callahan: Brought over Jay Norvell and Kevin Cosgrove. Kevin Cosgrove had statistically terrible defenses.
Pelini: Hired because he was essentially on Solich's staff. He then hired his brother Carl Pelini.
Riley: Brought over several coaches from Oregon State including Danny Langsdorf and DC Mark Banker after they were statistically horrible the season prior
Frost: Legacy hire. Basically brought over the the whole staff from UCF including his DC whose name escapes and me and was terrible statistically.
Rhule: Kept Donovan Raiola. Brought in Ed Foley. Satterfield was his former OC at Temple.

We will never get better at Nebraska unless we get rid of the nepotism. We have to hire a HC who will hire the best assistant coaches in the country regardless of if they've "worked with them."

Here's to another long season...#GBR
 
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Nepotism has plagued the program since Osborne left...

Solich: Hired essentially because he was Osborne's OC
Callahan: Brought over Jay Norvell and Kevin Cosgrove
Pelini: Hired his brother Carl Pelini
Riley: Brought over several coaches from Oregon State including Danny Langsdorf and DC Mark Banker
Frost: Basically the whole staff from UCF
Rhule: Kept Domnic Raiola. Brought in Ed Foley. Satterfield was his former OC at Temple.

We will never get better at Nebraska unless we get rid of the nepotism. We have to hire a HC who will hire the best assistant coaches in the country regardless of if they've "worked with them."

Here's to another long season...#GBR
Ruhle also needs to drop the ethics about keeping existing bad players. College football is now openly professional and he needs to treat it that way. Play well or go away.
 
I totally agree with you. We need to be ruthless at cutting the fat. The nepotism doesn't just start with the coaching staff it permeates throughout the locker room. We need to get the best coaches and the best players in the country period. If we have to pay 30 million for it like OSU did then do it. I'm sick and tired of getting worked by inferior programs year after year because we must do it the "Nebraska Way" or the "right way" or insert some other platitude to make us feel better about ourselves.
 
I totally agree with you. We need to be ruthless at cutting the fat. The nepotism doesn't just start with the coaching staff it permeates throughout the locker room. We need to get the best coaches and the best players in the country period. If we have to pay 30 million for it like OSU did then do it. I'm sick and tired of getting worked by inferior programs year after year because we must do it the "Nebraska Way" or the "right way" or insert some other platitude to make us feel better about ourselves.
No question. You can't compete with the best if you are overly concerned with not hurting feelings. We also need to stop buying in the myths about players and coaches. Nobody walks on water and nobody is just better because they wear an N. The best players and best coaching wins 98% of the time.
NU needs to figure out how to take the next step and just do it. Pony up the money for NIL. Push out players that wouldn't start for a top 25 team.
 
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Nepotism is killing us. Mcguire and his WRs are not good. Satterfield doesn't help and Donnys boys look confused on simple stunts.
 
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No question. You can't compete with the best if you are overly concerned with not hurting feelings. We also need to stop buying in the myths about players and coaches. Nobody walks on water and nobody is just better because they wear an N. The best players and best coaching wins 98% of the time.
NU needs to figure out how to take the next step and just do it. Pony up the money for NIL. Push out players that wouldn't start for a top 25 team.
Totally agree. I know Nebraskans have always hoped and prayed that Warren would pump money into the program. Honestly though why would he? He is a shrewd investor and shrewd investors put their money in winners. We are not winners. The culture is not winning. It places nepotism before winning.

Saban never worked with Lane Kiffin prior to hiring him. Dan Lanning never worked with his OC Will Stein prior to hiring him. Jim Harbaugh hired Jesse Minter never having worked with him. Dabo had never worked with Brent Venables prior to hiring him.

You are Nebraska. This is the era of NIL. This is the only program in the state that has this much financial backing. You hire the best and pay for the best. No excuses.
 
Can an AD actually be an asset when it comes to finding good assistant coaching talent? I know they have a lot on their plate, but get a search party going to find out who's interested and has the cred to back up the hiring of solid coaches.
 
Nepotism has plagued the program since Osborne left...

Solich: Hired essentially because he was Osborne's OC
Callahan: Brought over Jay Norvell and Kevin Cosgrove
Pelini: Hired his brother Carl Pelini
Riley: Brought over several coaches from Oregon State including Danny Langsdorf and DC Mark Banker
Frost: Basically the whole staff from UCF
Rhule: Kept Domnic Raiola. Brought in Ed Foley. Satterfield was his former OC at Temple.

We will never get better at Nebraska unless we get rid of the nepotism. We have to hire a HC who will hire the best assistant coaches in the country regardless of if they've "worked with them."

Here's to another long season...#GBR
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It's actually not that hard. ChatGPT can do the search for us.

Here are some of the top offensive coordinators known for their rushing offenses in NCAA college football over the last four years:
  1. Jeff Grimes (Baylor) - Known for his balanced and effective rushing attack1.
  2. Andy Ludwig (Utah) - Consistently fields top rushing offenses1.
  3. Warren Ruggiero (Wake Forest) - Praised for his innovative rushing schemes1.
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  5. Kendal Briles (Arkansas) - Known for his explosive rushing strategies1.
  6. Phil Longo (North Carolina) - High-scoring and efficient rushing offenses1.
  7. Zach Kittley (Texas Tech) - Prolific rushing offenses1.
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Here are some of the top offensive coordinators in terms of offensive efficiency in NCAA college football over the last four years:
  1. Jeff Lebby (Oklahoma) - Known for his high-powered offenses and innovative play-calling1.
  2. Josh Gattis (Miami) - Recognized for his ability to adapt and optimize offensive schemes1.
  3. Kendal Briles (Arkansas) - Praised for his explosive offensive strategies1.
  4. Jeff Grimes (Baylor) - Noted for his balanced and efficient offensive approach1.
  5. Zach Kittley (Texas Tech) - Known for his prolific passing offenses1.
  6. Garrett Riley (Clemson) - Highly regarded for his creative and effective offensive systems2.
  7. Ryan Grubb (Washington) - Recognized for his ability to maximize offensive production2.
  8. Andy Ludwig (Utah) - Consistently fields top-20 offenses in EPA per play2.
  9. Phil Longo (North Carolina) - Known for his high-scoring and efficient offenses3.
  10. Warren Ruggiero (Wake Forest) - Praised for his innovative offensive schemes3.
These coordinators have demonstrated exceptional offensive efficiency and have been instrumental in their teams’ successes. If you have any more questions or need further details, feel free to ask!
 
Most new coaches bring some people to their staffs they are familiar with, it happens all the time when a new staff is getting put together. Matt Rhule has some tough decisions coming at the end of the season, and if the AD has to suggest anything, it will be getting his staff in better shape, and if that means hiring outside your known group, so be it.
 
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Nepotism has plagued the program since Osborne left...

Solich: Hired essentially because he was Osborne's OC
Callahan: Brought over Jay Norvell and Kevin Cosgrove. Kevin Cosgrove had statistically terrible defenses.
Pelini: Hired because he was essentially on Solich's staff. He then hired his brother Carl Pelini.
Riley: Brought over several coaches from Oregon State including Danny Langsdorf and DC Mark Banker after they were statistically horrible the season prior
Frost: Legacy hire. Basically brought over the the whole staff from UCF including his DC whose name escapes and me and was terrible statistically.
Rhule: Kept Donovan Raiola. Brought in Ed Foley. Satterfield was his former OC at Temple.

We will never get better at Nebraska unless we get rid of the nepotism. We have to hire a HC who will hire the best assistant coaches in the country regardless of if they've "worked with them."

Here's to another long season...#GBR
Another round of nepotistic hires by Rhule and company:

Hired Phil Snow and kept John Butler on as DC rather than going out and hiring the best money could buy. Nebraska needs to do some serious soul searching if and when this defensive experiment inevitably fails. #GBR
 
Another round of nepotistic hires by Rhule and company:

Hired Phil Snow and kept John Butler on as DC rather than going out and hiring the best money could buy. Nebraska needs to do some serious soul searching if and when this defensive experiment inevitably fails. #GBR

Hiring someone you are not impressed with is not nepotism. Nothing about hiring either Butler or Snow is nepotistic, at all.
 
Nepotism has plagued the program since Osborne left...

Solich: Hired essentially because he was Osborne's OC
Callahan: Brought over Jay Norvell and Kevin Cosgrove. Kevin Cosgrove had statistically terrible defenses.
Pelini: Hired because he was essentially on Solich's staff. He then hired his brother Carl Pelini.
Riley: Brought over several coaches from Oregon State including Danny Langsdorf and DC Mark Banker after they were statistically horrible the season prior
Frost: Legacy hire. Basically brought over the the whole staff from UCF including his DC whose name escapes and me and was terrible statistically.
Rhule: Kept Donovan Raiola. Brought in Ed Foley. Satterfield was his former OC at Temple.

We will never get better at Nebraska unless we get rid of the nepotism. We have to hire a HC who will hire the best assistant coaches in the country regardless of if they've "worked with them."

Here's to another long season...#GBR
The thing with Pelini was when Osborne hired him was because our defense was that bad and he had proven himself back in 03. As per Osborne, there were only 2 candidates for HC and as I said Pelini got it because of how bad the Defense was but Tom also said that had it been the offense Turner Gill woulda been the HC as he was the 2nd of only 2 candidates and Carl was one hell of a DL coach and was Frankie's at Ohio before he came here.
 
Nepotism has plagued the program since Osborne left...

Solich: Hired essentially because he was Osborne's OC
Callahan: Brought over Jay Norvell and Kevin Cosgrove. Kevin Cosgrove had statistically terrible defenses.
Pelini: Hired because he was essentially on Solich's staff. He then hired his brother Carl Pelini.
Riley: Brought over several coaches from Oregon State including Danny Langsdorf and DC Mark Banker after they were statistically horrible the season prior
Frost: Legacy hire. Basically brought over the the whole staff from UCF including his DC whose name escapes and me and was terrible statistically.
Rhule: Kept Donovan Raiola. Brought in Ed Foley. Satterfield was his former OC at Temple.

We will never get better at Nebraska unless we get rid of the nepotism. We have to hire a HC who will hire the best assistant coaches in the country regardless of if they've "worked with them."

Here's to another long season...#GBR
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The thing with Pelini was when Osborne hired him was because our defense was that bad and he had proven himself back in 03. As per Osborne, there were only 2 candidates for HC and as I said Pelini got it because of how bad the Defense was but Tom also said that had it been the offense Turner Gill woulda been the HC as he was the 2nd of only 2 candidates and Carl was one hell of a DL coach and was Frankie's at Ohio before he came here.
Pelini was hired because the Hawks wanted him hired and nobody else would agree to keep Shawn Watson and some of his assistants. Bo was golf buddies with the younger Hawks.
 
No question. You can't compete with the best if you are overly concerned with not hurting feelings. We also need to stop buying in the myths about players and coaches. Nobody walks on water and nobody is just better because they wear an N. The best players and best coaching wins 98% of the time.
NU needs to figure out how to take the next step and just do it. Pony up the money for NIL. Push out players that wouldn't start for a top 25 team.
So how much are you going to pay into the program?
 
Nepotism has plagued the program since Osborne left...

Solich: Hired essentially because he was Osborne's OC
Callahan: Brought over Jay Norvell and Kevin Cosgrove. Kevin Cosgrove had statistically terrible defenses.
Pelini: Hired because he was essentially on Solich's staff. He then hired his brother Carl Pelini.
Riley: Brought over several coaches from Oregon State including Danny Langsdorf and DC Mark Banker after they were statistically horrible the season prior
Frost: Legacy hire. Basically brought over the the whole staff from UCF including his DC whose name escapes and me and was terrible statistically.
Rhule: Kept Donovan Raiola. Brought in Ed Foley. Satterfield was his former OC at Temple.

We will never get better at Nebraska unless we get rid of the nepotism. We have to hire a HC who will hire the best assistant coaches in the country regardless of if they've "worked with them."

Here's to another long season...#GBR
Thanks a heap. I no longer want to live.
 
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Totally agree. I know Nebraskans have always hoped and prayed that Warren would pump money into the program. Honestly though why would he? He is a shrewd investor and shrewd investors put their money in winners. We are not winners. The culture is not winning. It places nepotism before winning.

Saban never worked with Lane Kiffin prior to hiring him. Dan Lanning never worked with his OC Will Stein prior to hiring him. Jim Harbaugh hired Jesse Minter never having worked with him. Dabo had never worked with Brent Venables prior to hiring him.

You are Nebraska. This is the era of NIL. This is the only program in the state that has this much financial backing. You hire the best and pay for the best. No excuses.
Buffett is way too smart to ever “invest” in college football players…win or lose.
 
More cronyism than nepotism.

It’s not that either. Rhule’s never worked with Butler before Nebraska. And Snow has a great track record as a football coach. That’s like calling cronyism because Andy Reid hired Steve Soangnuolo. After all the are friends and worked together before.
 
Nepotism has plagued the program since Osborne left...

Solich: Hired essentially because he was Osborne's OC
Callahan: Brought over Jay Norvell and Kevin Cosgrove. Kevin Cosgrove had statistically terrible defenses.
Pelini: Hired because he was essentially on Solich's staff. He then hired his brother Carl Pelini.
Riley: Brought over several coaches from Oregon State including Danny Langsdorf and DC Mark Banker after they were statistically horrible the season prior
Frost: Legacy hire. Basically brought over the the whole staff from UCF including his DC whose name escapes and me and was terrible statistically.
Rhule: Kept Donovan Raiola. Brought in Ed Foley. Satterfield was his former OC at Temple.

We will never get better at Nebraska unless we get rid of the nepotism. We have to hire a HC who will hire the best assistant coaches in the country regardless of if they've "worked with them."

Here's to another long season...#GBR

Devaney hired TO. TO kept or hired People that played for Nebraska such as Turner Gill, Solich, Ron Brown, etc. I'm sure there are more. The point I'm making is, you have no point. College football is full of friends hiring friends.
 
I thought nepotism was a father/son thing, like a family buisness...them looked more like buddy hires

my nepotism question is: sam walton's rug rats, have their logo in missou end zone...how did we take a player from them?
 
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More cronyism than nepotism.
Well cronyism is the coin of the college fb coaching world then. Coaches have networks of people, much like people who work in other organizations. In the case of the Pelini's, a call from Kiffin helped Pelini get the job with Frank, then Bo's prior success as a DC got him in the room with TO. He brought along his brother Carl, who turned out to be a very good coach with some personal problems.
Coaches are asked to put in an inordinate amount and often are in high pressure situations. They would rather do this with people they know, trust and ideally have worked with.
 
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Well cronyism is the coin of the college fb coaching world then. Coaches have networks of people, much like people who work in other organizations. In the case of the Pelini's, a call from Kiffin helped Pelini get the job with Frank, then Bo's prior success as a DC got him in the room with TO. He brought along his brother Carl, who turned out to be a very good coach with some personal problems.
Coaches are asked to put in an inordinate amount and often are in high pressure situations. They would rather do this with people they know, trust and ideally have worked with.
I don’t disagree. It was more of a word choice thing than factual thing with me.
 
Can’t wait for the OP to weigh in on North Carolina hiring Belichick, with the clinching piece being Belichick‘s son being named the head coach in waiting…
 
I mean that context matters. Osborne and Saban are capable of coaching average coordinators and assistants up. Rhule isn't, as has been demonstrated quite clearly with the Satterfield and McGuire experiments.
100%. I just don't think wkato was saying otherwise.

Cronyism and nepotism are both fine just as long as you're winning.
 
100%. I just don't think wkato was saying otherwise.

Cronyism and nepotism are both fine just as long as you're winning.
In a large operation like NU football, cronyism and nepotism is fine in support or administrative positions.
When it comes to coaches, you need the top proven coaching talent your budget allows.

We've had close to 2 years with a lot of young WR's who have improved how much?

How much better might they have been with a Mickey Joseph or Ron Brown as the WR coach?
 
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