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MSU's 2016 class "decimated"

Really surprised to see it fall apart so quickly.. I thought they were really on the cusp of it just a few years ago back when their coach dressed like a thug on game day and the clapgate era..
 
Surprised someone hasn't come along and suggested we go after some of these guys. No thanks
 
I'm actually a little bummed for MSU. They're probably my second favorite team in the BIG, after the Huskers of course. I think Dantonio is a class act and has really put MSU on the map in a way that they haven't seen in a long time, if ever. I always look forward to the MSU match up. I always know it's going to be a good hard fought football game, between two exceptional programs. So for Dantonio and MSU I hope it passes quickly, because I do pull for them unless they're playing us. And especially pull for them when they're playing that other school from the same state.
 
I'm actually a little bummed for MSU. They're probably my second favorite team in the BIG, after the Huskers of course. I think Dantonio is a class act and has really put MSU on the map in a way that they haven't seen in a long time, if ever. I always look forward to the MSU match up. I always know it's going to be a good hard fought football game, between two exceptional programs. So for Dantonio and MSU I hope it passes quickly, because I do pull for them unless they're playing us. And especially pull for them when they're playing that other school from the same state.
A while back they did so much intentional holding on O and D and other cheap stuff, I dropped my opinion down from what yours is. Shouldn't just do as much as you can get away with; because
 
I'm actually a little bummed for MSU. They're probably my second favorite team in the BIG, after the Huskers of course. I think Dantonio is a class act and has really put MSU on the map in a way that they haven't seen in a long time, if ever. I always look forward to the MSU match up. I always know it's going to be a good hard fought football game, between two exceptional programs. So for Dantonio and MSU I hope it passes quickly, because I do pull for them unless they're playing us. And especially pull for them when they're playing that other school from the same state.
I share some of your feelings through our series with Sparty. Dantonio's teams have been tough. He's seemingly been rising up in the CFB world. He seems a great guy and a respectful competitor. He reminds me of Osborne in demeanor. It's sad to see some of these things.
 
A while back they did so much intentional holding on O and D and other cheap stuff, I dropped my opinion down from what yours is. Shouldn't just do as much as you can get away with; because
Actually I wouldn't mind seeing some of that kind of attitude from the Huskers. This ain't intramurals brotha.
 
IIRC, the Pelini years were rife with OL undiscipline... and it only served to kill us.
Almost all of that undiscipline was in the form of motion penalties, including falling back on a Cotton butt, and a few obvious take downs after getting beat. If the refs aren't calling holding on the line, then we need to be holding instead of complaining about the no-calls.
 
Almost all of that undiscipline was in the form of motion penalties, including falling back on a Cotton butt, and a few obvious take downs after getting beat. If the refs aren't calling holding on the line, then we need to be holding instead of complaining about the no-calls.
I hope i am understanding you correctly... is our OL needing to make those sly attempts? I heard when we joined the B10, that this was a league that let the teams fight it out, without ticky tack penalties . If we begin to hold, are we sure other B10 teams are holding? Id prefer we play sound football.... and then beat them sound.
 
I hope i am understanding you correctly... is our OL needing to make those sly attempts? I heard when we joined the B10, that this was a league that let the teams fight it out, without ticky tack penalties . If we begin to hold, are we sure other B10 teams are holding? Id prefer we play sound football.... and then beat them sound.

All coaches ask the refs how they officiate the game (football, basketball, whatever). If the ref says they aren't going to call holding unless it blatant affects the play, then the coach needs to tells his players that, or he should find another job. It's not cheating, it adapting to the human element of refereeing.
 
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I'm actually a little bummed for MSU. They're probably my second favorite team in the BIG, after the Huskers of course. I think Dantonio is a class act and has really put MSU on the map in a way that they haven't seen in a long time, if ever. I always look forward to the MSU match up. I always know it's going to be a good hard fought football game, between two exceptional programs. So for Dantonio and MSU I hope it passes quickly, because I do pull for them unless they're playing us. And especially pull for them when they're playing that other school from the same state.

^^^^This, and almost every MSU grad that I've met in my four years in Chicago is a great person.
 
Feel bad for Dantonio because I think he is an excellent coach who has transformed Sparty in to a formidable program.

Prior to Dantonio Sparty hasn't played with backbone since George Perles.

Go Blue!
 
Feel bad for Dantonio because I think he is an excellent coach who has transformed Sparty in to a formidable program.

Prior to Dantonio Sparty hasn't played with backbone since George Perles.

Go Blue!
I agree. But the sad thing is that if the downward spiral continues, he might have to be fired just so MSU can project an image of making a fresh start.
 
Just remember... this could happen to us too. So don't gloat. It is just a sad, sad situation. This is serious business. Lives are at stake.

You aren't kidding. I hung around the football team in college (I didn't attend NU). The stories that I heard makes me think this could happen at any school.
 
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