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Expectations and entitlement is 2 very different things. So the entitled fans forced to TO to appoint FS as HC instead of a national search. Entitled fans hired Steve Peterson who then hired Bill C after a botched search? Entitled fans forced the admin to hire Sean Eichorst which in turn hires Mike Reilly? I will blame the Admin well before the fans. Specifically Harvey Perlman
Entitlement led to the dismissal of Solich. Incompetence and arrogance (stemming from said entitlement), did the rest.

And thus we are where we are. A HAS BEEN clinging to our history and pretending we still matter. Even that in itself is a form of entitlement.
 
Where's there's money there's influence. In the early 2000's that influence as well as the outrage amongst the fan base led to Solich's dismissal. The di was casts early in solich's tenure. 9-4 in 98 and not winning a NC in 99 brought out the wolves. The ass whipping in the 2001 NC game sealed his fate. We threw a two time Big 12 coach of the year. A NC qualifier. And a nation wide well respected coach to the curb for being "mediocre."

If that's not entitlement I don't know what is.
I mean, I agree with this 100%, but I was trying to make the point that a good portion of our fan base still feels entitled today.

I feel like our football fanbase (myself included, I'm working on it!) is like a celebrity woman who was once smoking hot, then noticed a wrinkle on her forehead...

So she gets Botox over and over again until her face looks like a giant, swollen bruise. Then she expects Hollywood to keep her as an A-lister. She wants young guys to still get off to her and wonders why they don’t. Then she cries herself to sleep, even though her tear ducts don’t work properly anymore, because no one knows who she is anymore.
 
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Comprehend a simplistic view of the fan base wreaking havoc in the athletic offices and that’s why NU is where that have been.? Yeah right
Well yeah! good job. We have no one but ourselves to blame for the actions that led to this point. Top to bottom, big donors to small nobodies we all played a part.

Bo addressed it during his tenure...Remember the whole fish bowl thing? Who the hell do you think he was talking about? All of it is entitlement.
 
I mean I agree with this 100%, but I was trying to make the point that a good portion of our fan base is still entitled today.

I feel like our football fanbase (me included I'M WORKING ON IT!) is like a celebrity woman who was once smoking hot and then she saw a wrinkle on her forehead...

Then botox's her face OVER and OVER again until she looks like a giant swollen bruise. Then expects Hollywood to keep her as an A lister. She want to have young boys wack off to her and then wonders why they don't. Then cry's herself to sleep even though her tear ducts are no longer functioning properly, because no one knows whe she is anymore.
LOL this is a perfect comparison. Well done.
 
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Entitlement led to the dismissal of Solich. Incompetence and arrogance (stemming from said entitlement), did the rest.

And thus we are where we are. A HAS BEEN clinging to our history and pretending we still matter. Even that in itself is a form of entitlement.
What a reach. The fans ruined this once proud program. Can’t be the incompetence of the administration.
 
What a reach. The fans ruined this once proud program. Can’t be the incompetence of the administration.
As I said it's both. You honestly believe that major donors/fans didn't play are part in the firing of Solich and the hirings of all of those that have followed?

We live in America. Everyone who holds a higher office in this country is beholden to those that have paid for their entry into said position. POTUS to HC at UNL.

George Carlin GIF

IT'S ONE BIG CLUB AND WE AIN'T IN IT!
 
What a reach. The fans ruined this once proud program. Can’t be the incompetence of the administration.
I say this as a Nebraska fan myself: you're deflecting. The entitlement in our fanbase is real, and pretending it’s all on the administration is just denial. If we can’t be honest about our own role in the program’s downfall, we’re part of the problem too. Sometimes, being a man means admitting your own shit stinks, not pretending it’s always someone else’s mess.
 
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I say this as a Nebraska fan myself: you're deflecting. The entitlement in our fanbase is real, and pretending it’s all on the administration is just denial. If we can’t be honest about our own role in the program’s downfall, we’re part of the problem too. Sometimes, being a man means admitting your own shit stinks, not pretending it’s always someone else’s mess.
Haha oh geez. This keeps getting better
 
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As I said it's both. You honestly believe that major donors/fans didn't play are part in the firing of Solich and the hirings of all of those that have followed?

We live in America. Everyone who holds a higher office in this country is beholden to those that have paid for their entry into said position. POTUS to HC at UNL.

George Carlin GIF

IT'S ONE BIG CLUB AND WE AIN'T IN IT!
So the entitled fans pushed to hire Billy C, Mike Reilly? Ok
 
I say this as a Nebraska fan myself: you're deflecting. The entitlement in our fanbase is real, and pretending it’s all on the administration is just denial. If we can’t be honest about our own role in the program’s downfall, we’re part of the problem too. Sometimes, being a man means admitting your own shit stinks, not pretending it’s always someone else’s mess.
This has nothing to do with deflecting responsibility. You know nothing about me. I will take 100 percent responsibility when the university ask my opinion or I have a voice in any hiring within the admin. Along with 95% of Husker fans that have no say in the hiring/firing process. You must be a massive donor to be heard within the athletic department on how this program is ran.
 
So the entitled fans pushed to hire Billy C, Mike Reilly? Ok
No, but they had a role in the firing. I am a firm believer that the fans are huge influence on the "change" of the program. They may not pick the new folks, but the reason they need to hire someone new is. That is fan driven then the large donor fans 100% are involved initiating the move. What about that do you not understand?
 
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I am curious about the notion of being an entitled fanbase TODAY. How are we an entitled fanbase today?

I see snippets, for sure, it comes out from time to time on this board… but I honestly don’t see the fanbase today as being all that entitled. Would love some more concrete examples… is it when we complain about not getting calls everyone else does? Maybe, but then again, every fan in America feels that way about their team.

I believe we have exhibited entitlement in the past, absolutely, I just feel like it’s been beaten out of us over the last 20 years.

The only entitlement I maintain is that we are still a blue blood. Outside of that, we are owed nothing.
 
So the entitled fans pushed to hire Billy C, Mike Reilly? Ok
I've already painted the picture for you. Entitlement put us where we are. Incompetence led to bad hires. Donor's (who are fans) played a major role in all of it.

That simple!
 
No, but they had a role in the firing. I am a firm believer that the fans are huge influence on the "change" of the program. They may not pick the new folks, but the reason they need to hire someone new is. That is fan driven then the large donor fans 100% are involved initiating the move. What about that do you not understand?
Isn’t this true of all fan bases? When coaches are bad enough, the fans cry out. Time for a change.
 
I am curious about the notion of being an entitled fanbase TODAY. How are we an entitled fanbase today?

I see snippets, for sure, it comes out from time to time on this board… but I honestly don’t see the fanbase today as being all that entitled. Would love some more concrete examples… is it when we complain about not getting calls everyone else does? Maybe, but then again, every fan in America feels that way about their team.

I believe we have exhibited entitlement in the past, absolutely, I just feel like it’s been beaten out of us over the last 20 years.

The only entitlement I maintain is that we are still a blue blood. Outside of that, we are owed nothing.
I don't think anyone would disagree much with this. I think the fact that many fans do not or are not willing to admit that we are "has been" leads to the view from some that we come off as entitled.
 
No, but they had a role in the firing. I am a firm believer that the fans are huge influence on the "change" of the program. They may not pick the new folks, but the reason they need to hire someone new is. That is fan driven then the large donor fans 100% are involved initiating the move. What about that do you not understand?
I completely understand fan frustrations are heard. What make them entitled for that very reason. If that makes a fan base entitled then every major university has an entitled fan base. Exactly what role do the fans have in the firings. I see endless support from this fan base rabid fans for sure. Expect excellence well that goes without saying that’s every fanbase. But I see Lincoln rocking every single home game with a full stadium. I guess if that’s entitlement. Good for NU
 
Isn’t this true of all fan bases? When coaches are bad enough, the fans cry out. Time for a change.
Not when the coach was a two time Big 12 coach of the year, had a winning % of .700 and was just coming off of a NC game and a 10-3 season. That's when entitlement really shines through.
 
I've already painted the picture for you. Entitlement put us where we are. Incompetence led to bad hires. Donor's (who are fans) played a major role in all of it.

That simple!
That’s a broad brush to paint for a fan base. Taking a small percentage of the fans to represent the rest. But you do you. I know all you want is vindication to call NU “has beens”
 
Not when the coach was a two time Big 12 coach of the year, had a winning % of .700 and was just coming off of a NC game and a 10-3 season. That's when entitlement really shines through.
Agreed, Solich is the exception. But how much of that was a fan problem vs a Steve Pederson problem? I know it was both, but Pederson was a key player there as well as probably some boosters of substance.

Does that encompass the entire fanbase?
 
I completely understand fan frustrations are heard. What make them entitled for that very reason. If that makes a fan base entitled then every major university has an entitled fan base. Exactly what role do the fans have in the firings. I see endless support from this fan base rabid fans for sure. Expect excellence well that goes without saying that’s every fanbase. But I see Lincoln rocking every single home game with a full stadium. I guess if that’s entitlement. Good for NU
Okay, let's break this down real simple like we're talking to a little kid who just saw a shiny new bike.

Imagine this... A boy wants a new bike. His parents say, "Not yet. Your current bike still works just fine." But the boy insists, "But John down the street got a new one and it's faster." The parents respond, "That's nice for John. You haven't even learned how to ride yours properly yet. Let's give it some time. He finally breaks them down and the parents give in."

And here's the thing. Sometimes the bike you already have ends up being better than the flashy new one. It's just not broken in yet, or maybe you haven't figured out how to ride it the right way. But fans still want a brand-new bike anyway just because it's different, just because someone else has one, or because they think it will fix everything instantly.

That's not wanting excellence. That's just impatience and wanting instant gratification.

hense "ENTITLEMENT"

Can I be anymore clear?
 
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That’s a broad brush to paint for a fan base. Taking a small percentage of the fans to represent the rest. But you do you. I know all you want is vindication to call NU “has beens”
Just because 5% of the fan base has the money or platform to make noise doesn't mean the other 95% don't share the same views. Influence can be a chain reaction you know...
 
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Okay, let's break this down real simple like we're talking to a little kid who just saw a shiny new bike.

Imagine this... A boy wants a new bike. His parents say, "Not yet. Your current bike still works just fine." But the boy insists, "But John down the street got a new one and it's faster." The parents respond, "That's nice for John. You haven't even learned how to ride yours properly yet. Let's give it some time. He finally breaks them down and the parents give in."

And here's the thing. Sometimes the bike you already have ends up being better than the flashy new one. It's just not broken in yet, or maybe you haven't figured out how to ride it the right way. But fans still want a brand-new bike anyway just because it's different, just because someone else has one, or because they think it will fix everything instantly.

That's not wanting excellence. That's just impatience and wanting instant gratification.

hense "ENTITLEMENT"

Can I be anymore clear?
Absolutely that’s entitlement.

I just don’t necessarily agree that equals the Nebraska fanbase.
 
Why is “entitled” a bad thing for a college football fanbase?

Bob Devaney and Tom Osborne built the University of Nebraska Football Program from the ground up over a span of decades into a beacon of pride and achievement. They put our state firmly on the map.

We should not be okay with or accepting of anything short of excellence, if nothing more than as a tribute to those two great men and pillars of college football as a whole

Don’t like it? F*ck off
 
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Agreed, Solich is the exception. But how much of that was a fan problem vs a Steve Pederson problem? I know it was both, but Pederson was a key player there as well as probably some boosters of substance.

Does that encompass the entire fanbase?
Not entirely. But by riling up the masses the major power players in all of these situations can have their way. It's been their playbook since the beginning of time. But our fanbase, including myself, were equally to blame for becoming a self entitled group of babies. We deserved what we got during the BC years. I feel like we've been punished long enough since that era, if Karma really is at play.

Hoping for better days ahead.
 
That’s a broad brush to paint for a fan base. Taking a small percentage of the fans to represent the rest. But you do you. I know all you want is vindication to call NU “has beens”
I don't need vindication... that's who we are. Some of us are just too blind to see it.

That small % was backed by a much larger collective. We all share in some of the blame.
 
Why is “entitled” a bad thing for a college football fanbase?

Bob Devaney and Tom Osborne built the University of Nebraska Football Program from the ground up over a span of decades into a beacon of pride and achievement. They put our state firmly on the map.

We should not be okay or accepting of anything short of excellence, if nothing more than as a tribute to those two great men and pillars of college football as a whole

Don’t like it? F*ck off
Tom Osborne would be the first to say we have an entitled fan base.

There is a difference between expecting excellence and demanding heads roll every time we don't get our way.

The Solich era was a case study in entitlement and how absolutely spoiled our fan base had become. Me included.

I'm guessing that all that pride and bravado would be pretty damn happy with a Solich era win/loss record now. Entitlement got us to this point. Hopefully we have learned our lessons. Probably not though!
 
Tom Osborne would be the first to say we have an entitled fan base.

There is a difference between expecting excellence and demanding heads roll every time we don't get our way.

The Solich era was a case study in entitlement and how absolutely spoiled our fan base had become. Me included.

I'm guessing that all that pride and bravado would be pretty damn happy with a Solich era win/loss record now. Entitlement got us to this point. Hopefully we have learned our lessons. Probably not though!
Our entitlement is earned and does not preclude further success

If you believe our fans made Bo nuts or the subsequent career .500 coaches we’ve hired .500 (or worse) coaches while here, then you are an idiot
 
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Our entitlement is earned and does not preclude further success

If you believe our fans made Bo nuts or the subsequent career .500 coaches we’ve hired .500 (or worse) coaches while here, then you are an idiot
While we can and should acknowledge the successes we have achieved and the effort it took to get here, we also can and should recognize that past accomplishments do not guarantee future results. Saying that our entitlement is "earned" can itself sound entitled, especially if it suggests we deserve ongoing success just because of what we’ve done before. What we’ve earned should give us confidence, not make us feel above others. Our progress is a strong starting point, but doing well going forward will still take focus, hard work, and the same drive that got us here. We keep pushing ahead because we want to succeed, not because we think success will just come to us.
 
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