Michigan vs Scott Frost

[jedihusker]

So I was searching for something college football related, though nothing to do with either of the topics in the title, and came across something related to my search on a website called MGoBlog. While on the website, I noticed under a section titled "Diaries" an article titled "Why We Hate Scott Frost". I had forgotten Michigan and UCF were playing this week, so I decided to take a quick glance at the article.

Basically, some Michigan fans are still bitter about the 97 National Championship and more specifically, Scott Frost campaigning for Nebraska to win. I didn't read the whole thing, but found what I did read somewhat humorous and a bit delusional. Thought some on here might like to give it a look.

http://mgoblog.com/diaries/why-we-hate-scott-frost

 

[1fansopinion]

So I was searching for something college football related, though nothing to do with either of the topics in the title, and came across something related to my search on a website called MGoBlog. While on the website, I noticed under a section titled "Diaries" an article titled "Why We Hate Scott Frost". I had forgotten Michigan and UCF were playing this week, so I decided to take a quick glance at the article.

Basically, some Michigan fans are still bitter about the 97 National Championship and more specifically, Scott Frost campaigning for Nebraska to win. I didn't read the whole thing, but found what I did read somewhat humorous and a bit delusional. Thought some on here might like to give it a look.

http://mgoblog.com/diaries/why-we-hate-scott-frost

It's been almost 20 years, and Michigan fans are still butt-hurt over this!
Frost spoke the truth that night.

 

[saluno22]

Good find! I'm enjoying reading through the comments.

 

[HBK4life]

It's been almost 20 years, and Michigan fans are still butt-hurt over this!
Frost spoke the truth that night.

I still like J. Peter's comment. "Don't give it to Michigan because they haven't won one in 50 years." "Give it to us because we're the better team!!"

 

[newAD]

Like I've said for years. Nebraska whooped Peyton Manning, Michigan outlasted Ryan Leaf. Enough said.

 

[kaz36]

It's been almost 20 years, and Michigan fans are still butt-hurt over this!
Frost spoke the truth that night.

There are Husker fans who are still butt hurt about the Penn St game in 82.

 

[Mr.Scary13]

Michigan fans should just be happy that game never happened. Nebraska would have beat them down had they played.

 

[burkek]

True college football fans who watched carefully that year know Nebraska would've killed Michigan!

 

[Hoosker Du]

There are Husker fans who are still butt hurt about the Penn St game in 82.

Yeah, but every fanbase would be butthurt over such a terrible call costing them a national title such as Ped State '82. Michigan has no one blame but themselves for struggling against the what, #12 team in the nation. Frankly, we should be the ones that are pissed for having to share our national title with Michigan.

 

[newAD]

There are Husker fans who are still butt hurt about the Penn St game in 82.

Heck yes, both sides hurt.

 

[jedihusker]

The part that really gets me is this line near the beginning:

This was primarily because Nebraska had to cheat to beat a very mediocre Missouri team late in the season. A Nebraska player admittedly kicked the ball in the end zone to keep it alive for a TD, and the refs didn't call him for it. (That's illegal.) The play became known as the "Flea Kicker," and it's very famous. Look it up.

First of all, using the word "cheat" implies Nebraska knowingly and intentionally did something illegal and got away with it.

Secondly, saying "a Nebraska player admittedly kicked the ball" makes it sound like he was being interrogated about doing something wrong and finally admitted it. If I remember right, Shevin Wiggins, the one who "kicked" the ball, bragged about having kicked it after the fact, and I think it was much more trying to get his part of the fame of the big play, than admitting any wrong doing. I've watched that play hundreds of times(and just watched it a few more), by the time his foot propels the ball in the air, he is on his back with a Missouri player on top of him. There is simply no way he could have seen the ball and known to try and kick it. The illegal kick rule simply states that it's illegal to intentionally kick the ball anytime outside of a punt, drop kick or place kick; and it also says when in question, it was accidentally touched. There is simply no way anybody could say it was anything more than freak luck of his foot hitting the ball as he was brought down that kept it in the air.

Then there's the comment about a "very mediocre Missouri team". I'm not going to make them out to be some juggernaut, but that's not exactly correct. Missouri was 6-3 going into that game, and actually moved into the polls after that game, and stayed there the rest of the way, finishing 23rd in both polls, with a 7-5 record. Michigan nearly lost to Iowa, at home, who also finished 7-5 but unranked.

 

[rrthusker]

Geez Blue let it go already.

 

[Hoosker Du]

The part that really gets me is this line near the beginning:


First of all, using the word "cheat" implies Nebraska knowingly and intentionally did something illegal and got away with it.

Secondly, saying "a Nebraska player admittedly kicked the ball" makes it sound like he was being interrogated about doing something wrong and finally admitted it. If I remember right, Shevin Wiggins, the one who "kicked" the ball, bragged about having kicked it after the fact, and I think it was much more trying to get his part of the fame of the big play, than admitting any wrong doing. I've watched that play hundreds of times(and just watched it a few more), by the time his foot propels the ball in the air, he is on his back with a Missouri player on top of him. There is simply no way he could have seen the ball and known to try and kick it. The illegal kick rule simply states that it's illegal to intentionally kick the ball anytime outside of a punt, drop kick or place kick; and it also says when in question, it was accidentally touched. There is simply no way anybody could say it was anything more than freak luck of his foot hitting the ball as he was brought down that kept it in the air.

Then there's the comment about a "very mediocre Missouri team". I'm not going to make them out to be some juggernaut, but that's not exactly correct. Missouri was 6-3 going into that game, and actually moved into the polls after that game, and stayed there the rest of the way, finishing 23rd in both polls, with a 7-5 record. Michigan nearly lost to Iowa, at home, who also finished 7-5 but unranked.

Plus, we lost points in the polls after that game, which we should have. But the same is true for Michigan after coming very close to losing to Washington State. They should have lost poll points, and they lost enough poll points to lose one of the polls. The only problem is that they should have lost both polls after their performance against WSU and our performance against Tennessee.

 

[huntered]

Michigan is like Colorado in many ways

 

[cubsker]

What people never mention is that we shouldn't have needed the Davison miracle. Two plays before, Davison was absolutely mugged on the two yard line. No PI was called.

 

[StrongArm517]

I've been to the big house, dream on,,, you don't compare to Lincoln, what you've won you shouldn't have. Such silly sour grapes.

 

[jedihusker]

What people never mention is that we shouldn't have needed the Davison miracle. Two plays before, Davison was absolutely mugged on the two yard line. No PI was called.

I had never seen that play somehow, I was listening to the game on the radio when that whole sequence happened and must have missed that. Just went back and watched it (the whole game is on YouTube),one minor semantic note, it was actually the play just before the scoring play. Not only that, the Missouri defender certainly appeared to hanging all over Shevin Wiggins back on the TD play, before the ball got there.

Also interesting, watching the replay of the Davison catch. That play is often thought of as an all or nothing play, either he catches that and scores or the game is over, because it was the final play of regulation. However, watching the replay, when Davison dives in and catches the ball just before hitting the ground, the clock had just moved from 3 seconds left to 2 seconds left, meaning if he hadn't caught it, there should have been time left on the clock. In fact, if you watch the replay, it almost makes you wonder if a Missouri clock operator, thinking the pass was incomplete, just decided to fudge a little and not stop the clock, because the clock doesn't actually turn to zero until after he has already gotten up off the ground and started celebrating.

Another common misconception, that goes along with what I just said about the timing, is that play was a 4th down play. It was actually 3rd down, so if the pass hadn't been caught, there should have been about 1 or 2 seconds left on the clock, and time for one more play. Still a pretty dramatic play, though maybe not quite as much as some remember it.

 

[HuskAir]

Speaking of cheating to win, Ryan Leaf still has 00:02 on the clock...

 

[jeans15]

It's their only championship in like 70 years.

 

[tpmcg]

tenn > wsu.

 

[NorthWillRiseAgain]

True college football fans who watched carefully that year know Nebraska would've killed Michigan!

Brian Griese was no Corby Jones. Wish we would have played them, damn bowl alliance era..

 

[HuskerBlueDevil]

Just thought I'd add something to Jedihusker's good summation. I heard Wiggins talk about the kick a number of times, from the first interview in the locker-room maybe 40 minutes after the game ended, to days later. He never varied in what he said. He said that he was trying to kick it to himself, which is legal. He said that he saw the MU player coming toward the ball from the front and was trying to kick the ball back into his own hands. The impetus of him being pulled over backward gave more power to the kick then he intended. One thing to remember is that Wiggins had been an all-region or all-state HS soccer player (I forget which) in FL so was used to controlling a ball with his feet. He never once claimed that he was trying to kick it to another NU player. A few days after the game he even made a somewhat testy comment to an interviewer obviously trying to get him to admit he'd been trying to kick it to Davison and said, basically, 'do you think I had eyes in the back of my head? I was trying to get the ball into my own hands. I had no idea where any of the other players were.'

ESPN did us no favors in that regard. A couple of days later they started off Sports Center by supposedly quoting an SI article. According to ESPN Wiggins stated in the SI article that he had "intentionally kicked the ball" and then went on to quote the rules against intentionally kicking the ball and so strongly implying that the kick was illegal. But ESPN carefully failed to give Wiggins' full SI quote, which was that he had "intentionally kicked the ball to himself.", which under the rules was perfectly legal (the rule then said something to the effect that a player may use any part of his body in an attempt to control or regain control of the ball).

 

[8675309husker]

Piss off.


Griese went on to be an NFL all pro. Scott Frost pussied out of the NFL.


The Michigan team was loaded with future NFL stars. Nebraska was not.

Michigan could run n throw the ball. Nebraska could run the ball. Michigan would of put Charles Woodson on any receiver, and put 10 men in the box.

The only delusions are the ones being spouted here.


Frost squealed like a bitch, and he will be doing more of it this weekend. Be thankful Neb isn't facing us.

How did Super Bowl champ Manning do against us?? Our defense would have crushed Meechicken.. Scott Frost and our offense would have scored numerous times. Nebraska would have won that game by 20 or more.

 

[DudznSudz]

Piss off.


Griese went on to be an NFL all pro. Scott Frost pussied out of the NFL.


The Michigan team was loaded with future NFL stars. Nebraska was not.

Michigan could run n throw the ball. Nebraska could run the ball. Michigan would of put Charles Woodson on any receiver, and put 10 men in the box.

The only delusions are the ones being spouted here.


Frost squealed like a bitch, and he will be doing more of it this weekend. Be thankful Neb isn't facing us.

Michigan was really good that year, but I do think Nebraska had the edge. I remember there were a lot of people on both sides who were calling bulls*** that the two teams never had to go head to head after those games to settle things once and for all. I wish they would have had to as a mandatory way to settle who would win the championship, because that has been a touchy subject for both schools ever since (clearly). Who was better? I think most would say Nebraska (including myself, no question), but Michigan was really, really good and you never know what is going to happen until two teams actually hit the field.

Picking on Scott Frost 20 years later over him supporting his own team is pretty stupid, though.

 

[GBR_Atlanta]

Piss off.


Griese went on to be an NFL all pro. Scott Frost pussied out of the NFL.


The Michigan team was loaded with future NFL stars. Nebraska was not.

Michigan could run n throw the ball. Nebraska could run the ball. Michigan would of put Charles Woodson on any receiver, and put 10 men in the box.

The only delusions are the ones being spouted here.


Frost squealed like a bitch, and he will be doing more of it this weekend. Be thankful Neb isn't facing us.

Wow. Funniest thing I've read all morning. Thanks for the laugh. "Michigan could run and throw the ball." Yeah. So could TN, KSU, Washington, Texas A&M and others. Nebraska would've won by 3 scores.

 

[bigboxes]

The Michigan team was loaded with future NFL stars. Nebraska was not.

First off, you're playing Central Florida, not Nebraska. Last time we played Michigan was in the bighouse. NU won 17-13.

Let's look at the '97 roster for the Huskers. Here's their little NFL talent:

Dan Alexander - 3 years, FB
Correll Buckhalter - 10 years, RB
Scott Frost - 3 years, S
Ahman Green - 12 years, RB
Russ Hochstein - 12 years, C
Joel Makovicka - 4 years, FB
Dominic Raiola - 14 years, C
Mike Brown - 10 years, S
Ralph Brown - 10 years, CB
Jay Foreman - 8 years, LB
Eric Johnson - 6 years, LB
Jason Peter - 4 years, DE
Carlos Polk - 8 years, LB
Mike Rucker - 9 years, DE
Erwin Swiney - 3 years, CB
Kyle Vanden Bosch - 12 years, DE
Eric Warfield - 9 years, CB
Steve Warren - 3 years, DE
Grant Wistrom - 9 years, DE
Kris Brown - 12 years, K
Bill Lafleur - 3 years, P

Maybe you were just talking out your ass. I would be upset too knowing that Nebraska had the superior team. You had a good team, but the game was never played on the field. Woulda, coulda, shoulda. Now, feel free to find all the Wolverines from the '97 team and post their NFL experience.

 

[newAD]

Piss off.


Griese went on to be an NFL all pro. Scott Frost pussied out of the NFL.


The Michigan team was loaded with future NFL stars. Nebraska was not.

Michigan could run n throw the ball. Nebraska could run the ball. Michigan would of put Charles Woodson on any receiver, and put 10 men in the box.

The only delusions are the ones being spouted here.


Frost squealed like a bitch, and he will be doing more of it this weekend. Be thankful Neb isn't facing us.

Colorado was loaded with NFL talent too. What's your point?

10 in the box? Boy I can't believe no one ever thought of doing that to Nebraska before?

 

[Bugeater]

So stupid and yet so Wolverine fanlike. What, Woodson going to cover all the receivers? Probably would have been a closer game than what Nebraska and Tennessee was, but Nebraska would have won, not one shred of doubt about that.

 

[bigboxes]

Colorado was loaded with NFL talent too. What's your point?

10 in the box? Boy I can't believe no one ever thought of doing that to Nebraska before?

Yeah, you knew what was coming, but there wasn't much you could do to stop it. Love Woodson. He'd be gassed in the 4th like everyone else. Smashmouth baby!

 

[vs540husker]

The Michigan team was loaded with future NFL stars. Nebraska was not.

Michigan could run n throw the ball. Nebraska could run the ball. Michigan would of put Charles Woodson on any receiver, and put 10 men in the box.

The NFL thing was already answered and clearly pointed out you are in fact 100% false.

So I'll answer your BS "Michigan could run n throw the ball" claim. *Spoiler alert* Michigan could neither run nor throw the ball as you claim. The Michigan offense was a mediocre at best. Not sure how Michigan is going to put up points with their 44th ranked scoring offense to match their 44th ranked total offense. Perhaps that 63rd ranked pass offense of Michigan's was just going to suddenly come alive?? Cause Tennessee with their 6th ranked pass offense clearly torched Nebraska.
Though perhaps that 28th ranked rush offense of Michigan would hammer Nebraska's feeble run defense? You know, the run defense that was actually BETTER that Michigan's!
What Nebraska did to Tennesee's 4th ranked offense, would pale in comparison to what they would of done to Michigan's joke of an offense. Michigan struggled to put up 21 points against Washington States 59th defense. Michigan likely wouldn't have scored against Nebraska unless it was a meaningless FG or TD in garbage time against Nebraska's 3rd and 4th stringers.

Nebraska had the #1 offense in the nation and the 5th best defense in the nation. Nebraska played in the better conference and only needed luck once. Michigan played in a worse conference and needed luck 4 times in 4 different games to stay unbeaten, including the refs literally running off the field with time still on the clock to ensure a Michigan victory against lowly Washington State.

Michigan was the benefactor of a sympathetic media that year and that is the only reason they even have a share a title that season.

 

[jlb321]

geez .. another rehash

it is simple to me ... would have been a good game but the bottom line is the Big Ten at that time was in favor of maintaining their ties with the Rose Bowl rather than participating in the bowl alliance that was going to pair the top 2 teams for the national championship. Don't say no thanks to the bowl alliance .. we would rather play in the Rose Bowl and then whine if you get snubbed. It was Michigan and the Big that kept that game from happening. Nebraska was all in favor of the system that would have allowed it to be settled on the field.

Nebraska beat a higher ranked team by more points in the bowl.

 

[Hoosker Du]

Piss off.


Griese went on to be an NFL all pro. Scott Frost pussied out of the NFL.


The Michigan team was loaded with future NFL stars. Nebraska was not.

Michigan could run n throw the ball. Nebraska could run the ball. Michigan would of put Charles Woodson on any receiver, and put 10 men in the box.

The only delusions are the ones being spouted here.


Frost squealed like a bitch, and he will be doing more of it this weekend. Be thankful Neb isn't facing us.

You are a true to life, unadulterated f'ing moron. We stomped the dogcrap out of the #3 team in the nation, and your game with the #7 team is still waiting to be finished, with WSU with a few seconds left on the clock, driving the ball to win the game.

So, we didn't have a lot of NFL talent on that team, huh? Kids, take this as a lesson what happens when you go through life as a completely oblivious uneducated idiot. We had 27 players off of that team that played in the NFL, plus both the Outland and Lombardi winners on our line.

And yes, somehow Brian Griese inexplicably became a pro bowler...when his career TD to INT ratio in the NFL was 119:99. Yeah, a real gamer.

Incidentally, we embarrassed a QB that would go on to become one of the Top 3 QBs in the history of the NFL, Peyton Manning....while you were struggling with the NFL's biggest BUST to date, Ryan Leaf. NFL talent indeed.

 

[DPDWU]

So I was searching for something college football related, though nothing to do with either of the topics in the title, and came across something related to my search on a website called MGoBlog. While on the website, I noticed under a section titled "Diaries" an article titled "Why We Hate Scott Frost". I had forgotten Michigan and UCF were playing this week, so I decided to take a quick glance at the article.

Basically, some Michigan fans are still bitter about the 97 National Championship and more specifically, Scott Frost campaigning for Nebraska to win. I didn't read the whole thing, but found what I did read somewhat humorous and a bit delusional. Thought some on here might like to give it a look.

http://mgoblog.com/diaries/why-we-hate-scott-frost

Gives them something to talk about this week other wise its a match-up that looks really boring and a comfortable Michigan win. In 1997 I don't think Michigan would have scored enough points to hang with Nebraska even though they did have a tremendous defense that year. The Blackshirts would have made it a long day for Greise and company. And with TO retiring the motivation for the win would have been through the roof.

 

[Cornicator]

I've argued since 1997 that Penn State in 1994 had a better argument over Nebraska in '94 than Michigan in 1997.

 

[HeyStadium...O-H-I-O]

You are a true to life, unadulterated f'ing moron. We stomped the dogcrap out of the #3 team in the nation, and your game with the #7 team is still waiting to be finished, with WSU with a few seconds left on the clock, driving the ball to win the game.

So, we didn't have a lot of NFL talent on that team, huh? Kids, take this as a lesson what happens when you go through life as a completely oblivious uneducated idiot. We had 27 players off of that team that played in the NFL, plus both the Outland and Lombardi winners on our line.

And yes, somehow Brian Griese inexplicably became a pro bowler...when his career TD to INT ratio in the NFL was 119:99. Yeah, a real gamer.

Incidentally, we embarrassed a QB that would go on to become one of the Top 3 QBs in the history of the NFL, Peyton Manning....while you were struggling with the NFL's biggest BUST to date, Ryan Leaf. NFL talent indeed.

 

[ellobo]

First off, you're playing Central Florida, not Nebraska. Last time we played Michigan was in the bighouse. NU won 17-13.

Let's look at the '97 roster for the Huskers. Here's their little NFL talent:

Dan Alexander - 3 years, FB
Correll Buckhalter - 10 years, RB
Scott Frost - 3 years, S
Ahman Green - 12 years, RB
Russ Hochstein - 12 years, C
Joel Makovicka - 4 years, FB
Dominic Raiola - 14 years, C
Mike Brown - 10 years, S
Ralph Brown - 10 years, CB
Jay Foreman - 8 years, LB
Eric Johnson - 6 years, LB
Jason Peter - 4 years, DE
Carlos Polk - 8 years, LB
Mike Rucker - 9 years, DE
Erwin Swiney - 3 years, CB
Kyle Vanden Bosch - 12 years, DE
Eric Warfield - 9 years, CB
Steve Warren - 3 years, DE
Grant Wistrom - 9 years, DE
Kris Brown - 12 years, K
Bill Lafleur - 3 years, P

Maybe you were just talking out your ass. I would be upset too knowing that Nebraska had the superior team. You had a good team, but the game was never played on the field. Woulda, coulda, shoulda. Now, feel free to find all the Wolverines from the '97 team and post their NFL experience.

I was trying to avoid this thread because there is no way a Michigan person is going to convince a NU person about 97 (and vise versa of course). But this is one area where it is pure numbers so I guess I'll play.

Saying you guys lacked NFL talent is incorrect. Saying Michigan had more is correct. In fact, by the numbers Michigan had roughly 50% more (over 50% if you take out specialists). Here is the list:

Jeff Backus OT - 12 years in the NFL mostly as a starting LT
Tom Brady QB - Yes, his biggest contribution that year was holding kicks
Dave Brandt OC - 2 years
Mark Cambell TE - 10 years with about half of those as a starter
Jay Feely PK - 14 years
Chris Floyd FB - 3 years but worth noting our FB was a 3rd round pick
Ian Gold LB - 8 years, mostly as a starter and made a pro bowl (though I think on special teams)
Brian Griese QB - 10 years, started a bunch of games and made a pro bowl
James Hall DE - 10 years mostly as a starter, in his best year had 11.5 sacks
Tommy Hendricks SS - 4 years, listed him at his college position but he played LB in the NFL
Chris Howard RB - 3 years
Steve Hutchinson OG - 12 years, borderline Hall of Fame when his class is up
Ray Jackson RB - 1 year
John Jansen OT - 11 years, mostly as a starter, was 2nd team All Pro one year
Dhani Jones LB - 11 years, mostly as a starter
Marcus Knight WR - 2 years
DeWayne Patmon S - 2 years
William Peterson CB - 10 years a few of them as a starter
Marcus Ray FS - 1 year, many years annoying us on BTN
Aaron Shea HB/TE - 7 years, started a few games...listed at college position played TE in NFL
Glenn Steele DE - 6 years, started some games
Tai Streets WR - 6 years about half as a starter
Jerame Tuman TE - 10 years, started some
Anthony (A-train) Thomas RB - 7 years, NFL O Rookie of the Year
Clarence Williams RB (3rd down) - 1 year
Josh Williams DT - 6 years, think he started hear and there
Maurice Williams OT/OG - 9 years, mostly as a starting LT
Charles Woodson CB/WR/KR - I think 15 years, list I have has him still active which is not the case
Chris Ziemman OG - 1 year

edit: Forgot Andre Weathers CB - 2 years in the NFL...btw, if you ever watch a replay of the 97 tOSU game...as Weathers is coming back to the sideline after his pick 6 a guy in a pullover and hat bangs him on the shoulder...that was me

 

[jlb321]

I was trying to avoid this thread because there is no way a Michigan person is going to convince a NU person about 97 (and vise versa of course). But this is one area where it is pure numbers so I guess I'll play.

and once again I will stress that it was the BigTen and Michigan that kept this from being settled on the field. They deemed it more important to play in the Rose Bowl rather than play in a national championship game if it came down to a choice. The conference not in the bowl alliance should not receive the benefit of the doubt when the other team (Nebraska) was more than happy to settle it on the field

 

[vs540husker]

I was trying to avoid this thread because there is no way a Michigan person is going to convince a NU person about 97 (and vise versa of course). But this is one area where it is pure numbers so I guess I'll play.

Saying you guys lacked NFL talent is incorrect. Saying Michigan had more is correct. In fact, by the numbers Michigan had roughly 50% more (over 50% if you take out specialists). Here is the list:

Jeff Backus OT - 12 years in the NFL mostly as a starting LT
Tom Brady QB - Yes, his biggest contribution that year was holding kicks
Dave Brandt OC - 2 years
Mark Cambell TE - 10 years with about half of those as a starter
Jay Feely PK - 14 years
Chris Floyd FB - 3 years but worth noting our FB was a 3rd round pick
Ian Gold LB - 8 years, mostly as a starter and made a pro bowl (though I think on special teams)
Brian Griese QB - 10 years, started a bunch of games and made a pro bowl
James Hall DE - 10 years mostly as a starter, in his best year had 11.5 sacks
Tommy Hendricks SS - 4 years, listed him at his college position but he played LB in the NFL
Chris Howard RB - 3 years
Steve Hutchinson OG - 12 years, borderline Hall of Fame when his class is up
Ray Jackson RB - 1 year
John Jansen OT - 11 years, mostly as a starter, was 2nd team All Pro one year
Dhani Jones LB - 11 years, mostly as a starter
Marcus Knight WR - 2 years
DeWayne Patmon S - 2 years
William Peterson CB - 10 years a few of them as a starter
Marcus Ray FS - 1 year, many years annoying us on BTN
Aaron Shea HB/TE - 7 years, started a few games...listed at college position played TE in NFL
Glenn Steele DE - 6 years, started some games
Tai Streets WR - 6 years about half as a starter
Jerame Tuman TE - 10 years, started some
Anthony (A-train) Thomas RB - 7 years, NFL O Rookie of the Year
Clarence Williams RB (3rd down) - 1 year
Josh Williams DT - 6 years, think he started hear and there
Maurice Williams OT/OG - 9 years, mostly as a starting LT
Charles Woodson CB/WR/KR - I think 15 years, list I have has him still active which is not the case
Chris Ziemman OG - 1 year

That list posted above for Nebraska is incomplete as I think it is just our starters. If you go further into the depth chart, Nebraska has 27 NFL players.

 

[ellobo]

and once again I will stress that it was the BigTen and Michigan that kept this from being settled on the field. They deemed it more important to play in the Rose Bowl rather than play in a national championship game if it came down to a choice. The conference not in the bowl alliance should not receive the benefit of the doubt when the other team (Nebraska) was more than happy to settle it on the field

Dude...do you think there is anyway I could possibly convince any of you huskers of anything (in regards to 97 and on this board) that is subjective? Damn, I could post video of the clear and blatant defensive pass interference on Woodson on a 4th down on the final drive (that wasn't called and would have ended the game) and people would still claim WSU got robbed...my only interest in this argument (as it concerns discussing it on a non-neutral board) is with things that can be statistically proven...such as Michigan had 50% more NFL players.

 

[ellobo]

That list posted above for Nebraska is incomplete as I think it is just our starters. If you go further into the depth chart, Nebraska has 27 NFL players.

So could I...such as our 3rd string QB who played 5 years in the NFL and our 4th CB (who actually played some that year as a true frosh in the dime packages...so maybe I should add him...James Whitley) played 3 years ...I think the actual number of NFL players on the team was something like 44-47...if you'd like a can also add guys like a future pro bowl OC who was redshirting that year.