Lindsey to OSU

[Mtnhusker]

Wow lot of hate, maybe the Huskers should actually do something on the field before spouting off. Jealousy doesn't suit you.

Seriously? This is a Husker Recruiting Board filled with Husker Fans who were really impressed and proud of the effort our coaches put in trying to get Lindsey's commitment. OSU has the #2 ranked recruiting class and only trails Alabama because they have 3 more recruits than OSU and you would question us being jealous? If the Prom Queen won't go to the prom with you, at least you tried and asked her out. If the Prom Queen's slutty friend accepts your invitation to go to the prom with you at least you are nuttin later after banging said slutty friend as visions of the Prom Queen necked go through your head.

Coach Smith has talked the talk but has he really walked the walk when it comes to WR's and success in the NFL. Since he was hired in 2012 even with all of the talent he had in his WR Corps he has only had 2 WR's drafted (Smith and Spencer) and they have totaled 9 catches for 115 yards in the NFL.

Smith, although highly rated and drafted near the top of the 2nd round only had 9 catches for 115 yards last season playing for a Jets team that was struggling at WR and Spencer played in 1 game and didn't catch anything. Meanwhile on Smith's same Jets team lowly rated 6th Round Draft Pick Quincy Enunwa, from Nebraska caught 22 passes for 315 yards. Quincy's WR Coach at Nebraska Rich Fisher was a former college linebacker who Pelini hired from the high school ranks where amongst other things he was a womens high school golf coach which under the Pelini made you more than qualified to be a WR Coach. Even though Coach Fisher was never able to straighten out Quincy's Golf Game, especially his Fairway Woods and correcting that nasty Duck Hook that haunted him on the links, Coach Fisher still prepared Quincy enough that he is sitting one spot higher than your 2nd round draft pick Devin Smith on the Jets pre-season depth chart.

Even this article about Devin Smith bashes on how well he was prepared for the NFL by your Coach Smith:
Making that happen has been a slow process. Offensive coordinator Chan Gailey said that Smith’s football education at Ohio State didn’t leave him prepared to make an instant impact at the professional level."
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/10/30/devin-smith-has-struggled-with-transition-to-pros/


I guarantee you that there are 100+ schools that are incredibly jealous of your talented and highly ranked class. We aren't stupid, you need talent to win championships and our coaches are working their asses off to try to bring in top flight talent so we can better compete with the OSU's of the world. If we weren't jealous of some of the athletically gifted players in your class we would be morons.

 

[timnsun]

Seriously? This is a Husker Recruiting Board filled with Husker Fans who were really impressed and proud of the effort our coaches put in trying to get Lindsey's commitment. OSU has the #2 ranked recruiting class and only trails Alabama because they have 3 more recruits than OSU and you would question us being jealous? If the Prom Queen won't go to the prom with you, at least you tried and asked her out. If her slutty friend accepts your invitation to go to the prom with you at least you are banging something while thinking of the Prom Queen.

Coach Smith has talked the talk but has he really walked the walk when it comes to WR's and success in the NFL. Since he was hired in 2012 even with all of the talent he had in his WR Corps he has only had 2 WR's drafted (Smith and Spencer) and they have totaled 9 catches for 115 yards in the NFL.

Smith, although highly rated and drafted near the top of the 2nd round only had 9 catches for 115 yards last season playing for a Jets team that was struggling at WR and Spencer played in 1 game and didn't catch anything. Meanwhile on Smith's same Jets team lowly rated 6th Round Draft Pick Quincy Enunwa, from Nebraska caught 22 passes for 315 yards. Quincy's WR Coach at Nebraska Rich Fisher was a former college linebacker who Pelini hired from the high school ranks where amongst other things he was a womens high school golf coach which under the Pelini made you more than qualified to be a WR Coach. Even though Coach Fisher was never able to straighten out Quincy's Golf Game especially his Fairway Woods and correcting that nasty Duck Hook that haunted him on the links Coach Fisher is still taught Quincy enough to be sitting one spot ahead of your 2nd round draft pick Devin Smith on the Jets depth chart. Even this article about Devin Smith bashes on how well he was prepared for the NFL by your Coach Smith:
Making that happen has been a slow process. Offensive coordinator Chan Gailey said that Smith’s football education at Ohio State didn’t leave him prepared to make an instant impact at the professional level."
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/10/30/devin-smith-has-struggled-with-transition-to-pros/


I guarantee you that there are 100+ schools that are incredibly jealous of your talented and highly ranked class. We aren't stupid, you need talent to win championships and our coaches are working their asses off to try to bring in top flight talent so we can better compete with the OSU's of the world. If we weren't jealous of some of the athletically gifted players in your class we would be morons.

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I am in awe... Superpup might say I am jealous of you!

Best rebuttal I have seen in a long time!

 

[HuskAir]

Best wishes to Lindsey. Him and Grimes will do great things at OSU.

Here's to hoping NU can reel in some other big fish...

 

[nick614]

Sorry to be dense about who they are, but then what were you trying to say about Brown and Marshall?

I just assumed they were OSU receivers, but obviously wrong. So please help me understand your original point...

That OSU sends WRs to the league whether they had years of WR experience (Michael Thomas) or just a little experience (Marshall, Brown). But it doesn't really do anything to argue over development. You are going to be developed and have a chance to go to the NFL whether you are playing at traditional powerhouses like Nebraska and Ohio State or a lower "ranked" B1G school.

 

[mpbrown27]

A note to my fellow Nebraska fans: stop trying to make an argument about Ohio State not preparing players for the league. They may not run a pro style offense but they do a great job of featuring their athletes and they have sent a ton of guys to the league. Also, let's pump the breaks about how great our wide receivers coach is for just a little bit.

The Buckeyes got Lindsey to verbal. They will likely go on to sign him, but Nebraska made a great run at him and if things don't work out for whatever reason then we're in great shape to get back in the race. And besides, he wasn't the only stud WR on our board. Moreso, we have some exciting young wide receivers already in the program. I'm not nearly as worried about WR as I am other positions.

I hope we have many more recruiting battles with OSU.

 

[Mtnhusker]

That OSU sends WRs to the league whether they had years of WR experience (Michael Thomas) or just a little experience (Marshall, Brown). But it doesn't really do anything to argue over development. You are going to be developed and have a chance to go to the NFL whether you are playing at traditional powerhouses like Nebraska and Ohio State or a lower "ranked" B1G school.

Exactly, thank you for seeing the light and backing this point. We all agree that every school has the ability to develop NFL Caliber players. Good coaches can take 2-3 Star talent and coach it up to NFL levels but some coaches don't seem to be able to coach up highly ranked 4 and 5 Star talent so that they are even drafted. The combined talent with Thomas, Marshall and Brown is mind blowing, but yet none of them got drafted.
-Jalin Marshall 6.0 4 Star #1 Ranked athlete and over #35 ranked player in the country
-Michael Thomas 5.8 4 Star
-Corey Brown 5.9 4 Star #10 Ranked Athlete in the country and overall #118

Now you get some huge highly ranked commits in Grimes and Lindsey, and yes everybody is jealous of those 2. Which direction are they going to go under Coach Smith's tutelage? More in the direction of the high 2nd round pick that struggles adjusting to the NFL? Maybe he was the product of the system and being surrounded by so many great players. Or highly rated upper echelon athletes whose draft stock is at such a low level that even with ridiculous athletic ability like theirs which is so highly sought after by the NFL they don't get drafted and have to battle through the Free Agent Ranks to prove themselves?

 

[Hoosker Du]

Wow lot of hate, maybe the Huskers should actually do something on the field before spouting off. Jealousy doesn't suit you.

Are we not talking about the performance of your WR coach and his inability to prepare your receivers for the next level? Hey, I'm good with you keeping him. It will help our DBs against your more athletic, but poorly coached WRs.

 

[St_Henry_Buckeye]

9 stars, Buckeye, but who's counting? We'll be sure to say hello when they wash out of the NFL after a year.

Grimes and Lindsey are both 5 stars. But who's counting right?

 

[NikkiSixx]

I think, "Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line!" comes immediately after the land war in Asia.

simple but effective, don't pee into the wind.

 

[headcard]

A note to my fellow Nebraska fans: stop trying to make an argument about Ohio State not preparing players for the league. They may not run a pro style offense but they do a great job of featuring their athletes and they have sent a ton of guys to the league. Also, let's pump the breaks about how great our wide receivers coach is for just a little bit.

The Buckeyes got Lindsey to verbal. They will likely go on to sign him, but Nebraska made a great run at him and if things don't work out for whatever reason then we're in great shape to get back in the race. And besides, he wasn't the only stud WR on our board. Moreso, we have some exciting young wide receivers already in the program. I'm not nearly as worried about WR as I am other positions.

I hope we have many more recruiting battles with OSU.

I don't think anyone would claim OSU doesn't prepare players for the NFL. Ed Warinner, for instance may be the absolute best OL coach in the game, same with Larry Johnson on the DL. What I am seeing is the claim that Zach Smith doesn't prepare players for the NFL, big difference. Every staff has strengths and weaknesses and Zach Smith is clearly the co-weak link (Tim Beck) of the OSU staff. I don't think we should have to pretend that Smith is a great coach like Meyer, Schiano, Warinner and Johnson just because he puts on the OSU polo.

 

[BigRedTed37]

Seriously? This is a Husker Recruiting Board filled with Husker Fans who were really impressed and proud of the effort our coaches put in trying to get Lindsey's commitment. OSU has the #2 ranked recruiting class and only trails Alabama because they have 3 more recruits than OSU and you would question us being jealous? If the Prom Queen won't go to the prom with you, at least you tried and asked her out. If the Prom Queen's slutty friend accepts your invitation to go to the prom with you at least you are nuttin later after banging said slutty friend as visions of the Prom Queen necked go through your head.

Coach Smith has talked the talk but has he really walked the walk when it comes to WR's and success in the NFL. Since he was hired in 2012 even with all of the talent he had in his WR Corps he has only had 2 WR's drafted (Smith and Spencer) and they have totaled 9 catches for 115 yards in the NFL.

Smith, although highly rated and drafted near the top of the 2nd round only had 9 catches for 115 yards last season playing for a Jets team that was struggling at WR and Spencer played in 1 game and didn't catch anything. Meanwhile on Smith's same Jets team lowly rated 6th Round Draft Pick Quincy Enunwa, from Nebraska caught 22 passes for 315 yards. Quincy's WR Coach at Nebraska Rich Fisher was a former college linebacker who Pelini hired from the high school ranks where amongst other things he was a womens high school golf coach which under the Pelini made you more than qualified to be a WR Coach. Even though Coach Fisher was never able to straighten out Quincy's Golf Game, especially his Fairway Woods and correcting that nasty Duck Hook that haunted him on the links, Coach Fisher still prepared Quincy enough that he is sitting one spot higher than your 2nd round draft pick Devin Smith on the Jets pre-season depth chart.

Even this article about Devin Smith bashes on how well he was prepared for the NFL by your Coach Smith:
Making that happen has been a slow process. Offensive coordinator Chan Gailey said that Smith’s football education at Ohio State didn’t leave him prepared to make an instant impact at the professional level."
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/10/30/devin-smith-has-struggled-with-transition-to-pros/


I guarantee you that there are 100+ schools that are incredibly jealous of your talented and highly ranked class. We aren't stupid, you need talent to win championships and our coaches are working their asses off to try to bring in top flight talent so we can better compete with the OSU's of the world. If we weren't jealous of some of the athletically gifted players in your class we would be morons.

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Like getting keys to a Ferrari and not knowing how to drive it. The next owner knows its a Ferrari and can probably drive great, even if it hasn't been properly broken in.

 

[mpbrown27]

I don't think anyone would claim OSU doesn't prepare players for the NFL. Ed Warinner, for instance may be the absolute best OL coach in the game, same with Larry Johnson on the DL. What I am seeing is the claim that Zach Smith doesn't prepare players for the NFL, big difference. Every staff has strengths and weaknesses and Zach Smith is clearly the co-weak link (Tim Beck) of the OSU staff. I don't think we should have to pretend that Smith is a great coach like Meyer, Schiano, Warinner and Johnson just because he puts on the OSU polo.

The effect that a specific coach has on a player, especially as it relates to the NFL (the best of the best) is pretty difficult to measure. I see the argument and if I were a recruiter at Nebraska I would be saying the same things, but this conversation is obviously rooted in the fact that we're feeling butt hurt about losing one of our top recruits. It's like, who cares if we lost the player, let's instead win a message board battle about who has the better assistant coach? And it comes just days after our coach got busted for his third DUI? C'mon, this is embarrassing to read.

 

[BigRedTed37]

I don't think the reaction from our fanbase would be as great, if Z. Smith didn't attack Williams in the first place. Once he subtweeted the first time about Williams, I think it was on like Donkey Kong.

 

[headcard]

The effect that a specific coach has on a player, especially as it relates to the NFL (the best of the best) is pretty difficult to measure. I see the argument and if I were a recruiter at Nebraska I would be saying the same things, but this conversation is obviously rooted in the fact that we're feeling butt hurt about losing one of our top recruits. It's like, who cares if we lost the player, let's instead win a message board battle about who has the better assistant coach? And it comes just days after our coach got busted for his third DUI? C'mon, this is embarrassing to read.

Sorry you feel that way, but I am not sure why you are so worried about the opinion of message board trolls from other teams that come over to gloat. Wouldn't you expect a little harassment if you went to another board to talk crap? I am personally not butthurt, as we all knew Lindsey was OSU bound for a long time now. However, I do still believe a players position coach has a huge impact on their development and I believe that OSU has some great position coaches, but Coach Smith is NOT one of them.

 

[HuskerO]

Grimes and Lindsey are both 5 stars. But who's counting right?

Pretty sure @Hoosker Du was going off the Rivals ranking (since we are on a Rivals board). As of 8/23/2016;

Trevon Grimes: 5*
Tyjon Lindsey: 4*

That's 9. Doesn't matter if it's 9 or 10 though. Lindsey is the top 4* and a great player. Who cares if he has that 5th start or not?

 

[Hoosker Du]

Grimes and Lindsey are both 5 stars. But who's counting right?

How difficult is it to count? Good Lord..

 

[Pennsyhusker]

I find this whole debate tiresome. OSU is a great team and a great program. At one time we were too. And maybe we will be again someday soon. But for a team that went 6-7 last year and who just had their ace recruiter arrested, I find some of the chest thumping on here comical. When we start winning anything that matters again we can start to brag. Until then we should just be silent and let our play on the field do the talking.

 

[Hoosker Du]

The effect that a specific coach has on a player, especially as it relates to the NFL (the best of the best) is pretty difficult to measure. I see the argument and if I were a recruiter at Nebraska I would be saying the same things, but this conversation is obviously rooted in the fact that we're feeling butt hurt about losing one of our top recruits. It's like, who cares if we lost the player, let's instead win a message board battle about who has the better assistant coach? And it comes just days after our coach got busted for his third DUI? C'mon, this is embarrassing to read.

You're embarrassing to read. A crybaby coach at Ohio State chose to take to Twitter to voice his displeasure with our WR coach making recruiting inroads with some of the receivers he was also recruiting, and he was very succinctly shown that he isn't in the same league as coach Williams in terms of developing NFL ready WRs.

Coach Williams has taken less physically talented receivers and made them into more productive receivers in the NFL as compared to the WRs at Ohio State under coach Smith. Is there any way to more clearly present this comparison than how others on this board have already done?

Sure, our WR coach just got ticketed for drunk-driving for the 3rd time, which is something that most of us have done more than 3 times, so let's dispatch with the bullshit looking down our noses at him. Most of us are as guilty as he is, so save that BS for someone else.

Remind me again, aren't we looking at abilities as a WR coach, where our coach has clearly separated from Smith. Smith...his name is as generic as his coaching.

 

[nebcountry]

The effect that a specific coach has on a player, especially as it relates to the NFL (the best of the best) is pretty difficult to measure. I see the argument and if I were a recruiter at Nebraska I would be saying the same things, but this conversation is obviously rooted in the fact that we're feeling butt hurt about losing one of our top recruits. It's like, who cares if we lost the player, let's instead win a message board battle about who has the better assistant coach? And it comes just days after our coach got busted for his third DUI? C'mon, this is embarrassing to read.

Really is no reason to think of it as embarrassing. Lindsey chose OhSU. Williams chose to drink and drive. The University chose to keep him.

I think OhSU fans might be getting worried that someone else might be in a position to get better. Therefore, they come over and try to rub it in. Kind of off tangent here, but I've always viewed Michigan as hard-nosed and OhSU as being glitz/glamour. Harbaugh is recruiting at the higher level, just a matter of time before Michigan grinds OhSU into bone meal on an annual basis.

Is easier said than done, but we need to join the big boys again. And just like every other team, we'll lose more recruiting battles than we win.

 

[nick614]

You're embarrassing to read. A crybaby coach at Ohio State choose to take to Twitter to voice his displeasure with our WR coach making recruiting inroads with some of the receivers he was also recruiting, and he was very succinctly shown that he isn't in the same league as coach Williams in terms of developing NFL ready WRs.

Coach Williams has taken less physically talented receivers and made them into more productive receivers in the NFL as compared to the WRs at Ohio State under coach Smith. Is there any way to more clearly present this comparison than how others on this board have already done?

I mean this is Smith's 5th year? So I would give him more time before you judge WR production. But even then, as a college football fan, NFL production means nothing to me. What are the WRs doing when they are playing/being coached by the coach? Smith is a great recruiter on a staff of great recruiters and Urban Meyer thinks he is a good coach otherwise he wouldn't have a job.

 

[Hoosker Du]

I mean this is Smith's 5th year? So I would give him more time before you judge WR production. But even then, as a college football fan, NFL production means nothing to me. What are the WRs doing when they are playing/being coached by the coach? Smith is a great recruiter on a staff of great recruiters and Urban Meyer thinks he is a good coach otherwise he wouldn't have a job.

You just typed "I mean?" Hehe.. That 'prefix' has somehow snaked it's way into our subconscious. I caught myself saying it the other day, and self-condemned, but writing it out is at a completely new level. Stop the madness!!

At the basis of this entire exchange is your whiny coach taking to Twitter to voice his displeasure with our coach simply doing his job. As if coach Williams should just step aside and just yield to your coach's recruiting efforts.

Pffft, what a tool. He brought all of this on himself.

 

[headcard]

Zach Smith reminds me of Mike Eckler. He was such a weird immature dude, but Pelini kept him around. So he was our weird, immature dude and we assumed he must be a good coach or he wouldn't have a job.

 

[leodisflowers]

I mean this is Smith's 5th year? So I would give him more time before you judge WR production. But even then, as a college football fan, NFL production means nothing to me. What are the WRs doing when they are playing/being coached by the coach? Smith is a great recruiter on a staff of great recruiters and Urban Meyer thinks he is a good coach otherwise he wouldn't have a job.

I doubt this is because of Smith. Urban is the main draw along with Larry Johnson. Don't kid yourself thinking Smith locked this down. This is all Urb and the Ohio State name. Good get by you guys..

 

[bigboxes]

I find this whole debate tiresome. OSU is a great team and a great program. At one time we were too. And maybe we will be again someday soon. But for a team that went 6-7 last year and who just had their ace recruiter arrested, I find some of the chest thumping on here comical. When we start winning anything that matters again we can start to brag. Until then we should just be silent and let our play on the field do the talking.

I don't go over to other boards and talk smack. I sure as hell can have an opinion on my team's board. I'm not chest thumping but I will tell outsider trolls to take a hike whether they have scoreboard or not.

 

[jlb321]

if we get smoked in Columbus - which I feel is likely (I know others feel differently) - I am not going to find any solace in the fact that our WRs are better prepared for the NFL

but that is just me

I don't begrudge anyone else the pleasure that they might receive from giving buckeye fan the business

 

[nick614]

if we get smoked in Columbus - which I feel is likely (I know others feel differently) - I am not going to find any solace in the fact that our WRs are better prepared for the NFL

but that is just me

I don't begrudge anyone else the pleasure that they might receive from giving buckeye fan the business

At least we aren't Texas

 

[TruHusker]

What an absurdly stupid thread. Whining all around. Too many Nebraska fans are looking for the moral victory. It is about wins, period. The rest of it is for people who have to find some little thing to be proud of when there is little else. If we were on top of the heap none of this would matter but we aren't so we find some little thing that we think makes us look better.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

I don't go over to other boards and talk smack. I sure as hell can have an opinion on my team's board. I'm not chest thumping but I will tell outsider trolls to take a hike whether they have scoreboard or not.

Good points. And of course you have every right to go after trolls. Just as I have a right to say that sometimes trolls are best left ignored, as in this case. And I also have a right to my opinion, which is that this thread is childish and tiresome.

 

[bigboxes]

I realize we went 6-7 last year, but the self-loathing is strong with many on this board.

 

[Hoosker Du]

I don't go over to other boards and talk smack. I sure as hell can have an opinion on my team's board. I'm not chest thumping but I will tell outsider trolls to take a hike whether they have scoreboard or not.

Especially when it was the monemental toolbag coach at OSU that started this nonsense. What D1 coach worth his salt whines to the Twitter-verse about another coach encroaching on his recruiting grounds? He looks like a complete fool.

 

[mothmonsterman]

Good luck to Lindsey (except for when they play us, of course.) It would be great to have another elite receiver in this class, but we've got a guy in Spielman who can fill the speedster role.

 

[TruHusker]

Especially when it was the monemental toolbag coach at OSU that started this nonsense. What D1 coach worth his salt whines to the Twitter-verse about another coach encroaching on his recruiting grounds? He looks like a complete fool.

Says the little kid to his mommy - "he hit me first." Get over it, sounds so much like little kids fighting. Almost comical. What is to be gained? Gonna win some monumental trophy for winning an argument?

 

[Charlie Marlow]

We didn't want him anyway....

 

[headcard]

I realize we went 6-7 last year, but the self-loathing is strong with many on this board.

But they look so cool to the other five Debbie Downers and the OSU trolls.

 

[GBRhuskers]

I mean this is Smith's 5th year? So I would give him more time before you judge WR production.

Zero (0) first team all conference WR's. Rich Fisher, former Husker WR coach currently coaching high school football, had one (1) first team selection. In less years.

One (1) second team all conference WR. That's the same as Huskers coach Williams, in his only year at Nebraska.

What are the WRs doing when they are playing/being coached by the coach?

Receiving feedback that they're not coached very well at Ohio State.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

I realize we went 6-7 last year, but the self-loathing is strong with many on this board.

I realize we went 6-7 last year, but the self-loathing is strong with many on this board.

Look bigboxes, I like your posts and normally we agree on most things. Not trying to pick a fight here.
But I am certainly not a self loathing Husker fan. I am on record as saying we will have a great season this year, possibly going 10-2 or 11-1.
But we were 6-7 last year, have not won a conference title since 1999, and the coach you are defending against the OSU troll just got arrested for DUI. I just don't think it makes much sense, therefore, to get in a pissing contest right now with OSU trolls over the relative merits of our 2 programs.
But what do I know? Ask my wife...Not much.
Carry on. Peace.

 

[1711 Cardiff]

Really is no reason to think of it as embarrassing. Lindsey chose OhSU. Williams chose to drink and drive. The University chose to keep him.

I think OhSU fans might be getting worried that someone else might be in a position to get better. Therefore, they come over and try to rub it in. Kind of off tangent here, but I've always viewed Michigan as hard-nosed and OhSU as being glitz/glamour. Harbaugh is recruiting at the higher level, just a matter of time before Michigan grinds OhSU into bone meal on an annual basis.

Is easier said than done, but we need to join the big boys again. And just like every other team, we'll lose more recruiting battles than we win.

Yes, Michigan is "hard-nosed".

42-13

And check your recruiting rankings.