Let's put out what we know

[BornNBredRed]

He threw badly behind the one receiver AND the ball to Hovey was under thrown. All of the picks wouldn't have happened with better throws. That said, his first start on the road with a below average O line. It happens.

Yes, it was underthrown some, but a 6'5" receiver had the ball in both of his hands. It wasn't horribly underthrown. The receiver had by far the best chance at that ball.

 

[Nebraska Gator II]

Cmon man. You're smarter than that. Michigan and Florida are loaded with talent. NU not so much. Our backup QB throws 4 really bad picks and loses a bad snap fumble all of which lead to points and its our coaches fault? OK maybe we should have run it more but cmon man. You can't go minus 5 on turnovers and win.

Florida was in really bad shape coming into this year. They almost didn't have the spring game because they didn't have enough offensive lineman. At QB they had a redshirt freshman QB that narrowly beat out a guy that had a handful of starts last year and wasn't impressive in any of them. (Not a two year returning starter on offense) Florida was projected by most to be a 7-5 to 8-4 team this year-if they stayed healthy.

What about Houston...are they loaded with talent? They are undefeated and are taking Vandy behind the woodshed right now.

Turnovers obviously were a factor in the game. No one would argue that. It just is a little strange though that Nebraska keeps on finding different ways to lose games. I have also said in the past that I think this offensive staff does a poor job game planning against teams. This week, Nebraska was playing one of the worst rush defenses in the country that was stacking the box most of the time and Nebraska was still able to run the ball. Why throw the ball so often with a back up QB? A back up QB that throws 4 interceptions. That is on coaches-which is why you can put some of the blame on this staff.

 

[dinglefritz]

That is crazy that we didn't 100 yards against a team giving up twice as much. This makes no sense and his justification is crazy. You have a new quarterback that hasn't started all year and he throws the ball almost 50 times. A recipe for losing. I think he is a smart offensive minded guy but come on. The corner Brown on Purdue looked like Deion Sanders out there against us.

They wanted to make us one dimensional by stacking the box and it worked. They sold out to stop the run and bring pressure against an inexperienced back up and it worked. He turned it over 4 times leading to 4 scores.

 

[Hoosker Du]

One on one they absolutely would. Publicly guys like TFraz and JR wouldn't hesitate ONE second to lay it out there if they were unhappy. Hell TFraz did it a couple of years ago about Bo. I don't know what anybody expected with OVER HALF of our projected defensive starters from spring ball gone or injured this fall. Then we start our backup walk on QB, he throws 4 BAD picks that result in scores, and the sky is falling? Good heavens people need to get a reality check.

Get caught up. The sky isn't falling. It has fallen and it can't get up again. We just lost to what was the worst team in the conference. We are comfortably in that position now.

I'm done giving free passes to this coaching staff. As much as I would love Mike Riley to succeed here, they should be able to put a better product on the field than this. Banker is a disaster as a defensive coordinator

 

[dinglefritz]

Florida was in really bad shape coming into this year. They almost didn't have the spring game because they didn't have enough offensive lineman. At QB they had a redshirt freshman QB that narrowly beat out a guy that had a handful of starts last year and wasn't impressive in any of them. (Not a two year returning starter on offense) Florida was projected by most to be a 7-5 to 8-4 team this year-if they stayed healthy.

What about Houston...are they loaded with talent? They are undefeated and are taking Vandy behind the woodshed right now.

Turnovers obviously were a factor in the game. No one would argue that. It just is a little strange though that Nebraska keeps on finding different ways to lose games. I have also said in the past that I think this offensive staff does a poor job game planning against teams. This week, Nebraska was playing one of the worst rush defenses in the country that was stacking the box most of the time and Nebraska was still able to run the ball. Why throw the ball so often with a back up QB? A back up QB that throws 4 interceptions. That is on coaches-which is why you can put some of the blame on this staff.

Look at the talent Florida has on the field. Who cares if the guys didn't play in their spring game. They're loaded and you know it. Houston has ALWAYS had talent. Generally they've haven't had great coaching over the years and Vandy is TERRIBLE.

 

[gldnglv165]

So you lose several starters and you think a coach can just easily overcome it. I think the guy has done great if you look at it in those terms and stop comparing to teams that had guys who are playing and starting on Sunday in the NFL. You take Ameer Abdullah out of those games last years and Bo doesn't win half of them. Look at the Dallas Cowboys without Romo and Bryant and how many wins do they have. Zero. You need things like health in order to win football games. Riley has yet to be blown out of a game which Bo did on a regular basis.

Huh?

Your bottom line says all you need to say. Riley has yet to be blown out of a game which Bo did on a regular basis. So you're happy with 3-6. That's on you, but please don't say the guy has done great. You lose all credibility.

 

[dinglefritz]

Get caught up. The sky isn't falling. It has fallen and it can't get up again. We just lost to what was the worst team in the conference. We are comfortably in that position now.

I'm done giving free passes to this coaching staff. As much as I would love Mike Riley to succeed here, they should be able to put a better product on the field than this. Banker is a disaster as a defensive coordinator

I'm not going to defend Banker other than to say that Banderas is no where near 100%, we're starting a true freshman at another LBer spot, we started a walk on that never would have played for Tom at one DE and a walk on that would have been a backup for Tom at the other DE. Our biggest problem is our D and not all of that is Banker's fault. It would be nice to see what he could do with healthy guys and better talent and depth than what Bo left him with.

 

[HuskerO]

They HAVE to show full support and cant be critical because of who they are, and their jobs. Its too risky for them to be ultra critical in a public forum.

This didn't stop former players being critical of Bo last year. So why would it be an issue for them now?

 

[Nebraska Gator II]

Look at the talent Florida has on the field. Who cares if the guys didn't play in their spring game. They're loaded and you know it. Houston has ALWAYS had talent. Generally they've haven't had great coaching over the years and Vandy is TERRIBLE.

Florida has a good defense. They have a bad offensive line that they coach around. This team is less talented this year than it was the last two years when Muschamp went 10-13. Don't make any mistake about it...Florida is where they are this year because of coaching.

 

[Gimmered]

Did you look at how Purdue was lining up on defense. They showed 8 in the box consistently and we had a ton of negative run plays.

2nd and 8 at PUR 20
(13:27 - 1st) De'Mornay Pierson-El run for a loss of 5 yards to the Prdue 25
1st and 10 at NEB 31
(5:06 - 1st) Terrell Newby run for a loss of 2 yards to the Neb 29
3rd and 5 at PUR 33
(5:06 - 1st) Ryker Fyfe run for a loss of 24 yards to the Neb 16 Ryker Fyfe fumbled, recovered by Prdue Garrett Hudson , return for 27 yds to the Neb 16
1st and 10 at NEB 15
(8:59 - 2nd) Ryker Fyfe run for a loss of 8 yards to the Neb 7
1st and 10 at NEB 20
(4:12 - 2nd) Imani Cross run for a loss of 1 yard to the Neb 19
2nd and 5 at PUR 36
(5:51 - 4th) Ryker Fyfe sacked by Gelen Robinson and Garrett Hudson for a loss of 6 yards to the Prdue 42

And there they all are, to correct my earlier post we were only sacked once. 3 yards lost by running backs, 5 yards lost on a jet sweep, 8 yards lost on a broken play on a jet sweep, 1 sack and 1 fumble on pass play.

And this is why this staff gave up on the run against the worst defense in the B1G.

 

[Nebraska Gator II]

They wanted to make us one dimensional by stacking the box and it worked. They sold out to stop the run and bring pressure against an inexperienced back up and it worked. He turned it over 4 times leading to 4 scores.

Right here is where you are wrong. Stacking the box didn't work. Nebraska running backs had 18 carries for 95 yards. With numbers like that, you should have 48 runs at the end of the game, not 48 passes. Especially considering Purdue has a terrible run defense.

Instead Nebraska throws the ball all over the park that results in 5 turnovers with a back up QB. That is coaching.

 

[dinglefritz]

Florida has a good defense. They have a bad offensive line that they coach around. This team is less talented this year than it was the last two years when Muschamp went 10-13. Don't make any mistake about it...Florida is where they are this year because of coaching.

And at the time I would have been just fine with us hiring the guy they got. He appears to be a good coach but it will be interesting to see how long he holds up when he has to recruit his own players. I just can't be jumping off a bridge right now giving the circumstances our coaches inherited. Half the guys we have starting on defense wouldn't start for many of the B1G schools and never would have started for the Huskers 'back in the day".

 

[dinglefritz]

Right here is where you are wrong. Stacking the box didn't work. Nebraska running backs had 18 carries for 95 yards. With numbers like that, you should have 48 runs at the end of the game, not 48 passes. Especially considering Purdue has a terrible run defense.

Instead Nebraska throws the ball all over the park that results in 5 turnovers with a back up QB. That is coaching.

You win that point and I wish we had run it more. My point was answering the original question as to why we didn't run the ball more. Didn't mean I necessarily agreed with our play calling. My thought heading in to the game and during it was that we HAD to run the ball. I remembered us having more negative plays and/or plays for less than 2 yards than that but so be it.

 

[NUSouth]

I could understand patience if Riley was a young guy, who brought excitement to the program, had a Top 10 recruiting class, and had shown evidence that he could be a great head coach.

Nothing on his resume makes me believe he can make this program great again, and looking at him physically on the sideline, I seriously don't think he has more than 5 years left of coaching in him. He's looked almost lifeless on the sideline lately. By the time he gets all of his guys in here, he'll be over 65 years old.

Absolutely agree. With the age of guy smiley, this is not a long tem project. He was expected to win now. I say fire him and his staff of osu clowns before they can do any more damage.

 

[ssmill777]

If the recruiting was looking better I would feel more optomistc but right now we are barely averaging 3 stars. I love POB and a couple of others but we need recruiting to pick up. I to will continue to support the team but this is an all time low for me.

Bingo! It will be 2020 at least before NU has much of a chance of climbing out of the bottom half of the B1G, and we will probably be looking at a new coach, system, etc, and the same ones will be saying "we need to be patient", "just give it time", "wait til they get their players in". Bottom line: SE could have made a homerun hire, but instead laid down a sacrifice bunt. We're screwed.

 

[ssmill777]

Everyone should understand time and what it can do for a program but only under the right leadership. Right now our leadership is a disaster and I doubt time will fix that. We have not made a damn bit of progress, none, zero, zilch... The door isn't slowly opening here, it's slamming shut. They've had time to show something, anything is better than nothing but they have shown just that, nothing. We're not going to see some drastic turnaround next season, it's much harder to do that when you cant even show a tiny bit of progress in your first 9 games. As I've said before, it's full on regression here.

Fully agree! Only 3 assistants that do a decent job: Bray; KWilliams; and Hughes. Every other one has been worse, by far. (And who would have thought Beck could call a better game than Langsdorf)

 

[dinglefritz]

Bingo! It will be 2020 at least before NU has much of a chance of climbing out of the bottom half of the B1G, and we will probably be looking at a new coach, system, etc, and the same ones will be saying "we need to be patient", "just give it time", "wait til they get their players in". Bottom line: SE could have made a homerun hire, but instead laid down a sacrifice bunt. We're screwed.

Not gonna happen unless you guys want to write the checks. Second of all, anybody with half a brain takes in to consideration all of the defensive departures and injuries. For a complete overhaul, the offense has been pretty productive but inconsistent. The D is what it is IMO because of talent and depth deficiencies at multiple positions that Banker and Riley had no control over.

 

[bigboxes]

As soon as we started seeing injuries at linebacker and DE we should have ALL seen 4 wins. Watching MInnesota tonight I'm not sure how we beat them.

This is how I've felt for most of the year. I want to win, but I feel that there is a lot of wreckage left by Pelini that has to be cleaned up as well.

 

[dinglefritz]

This is how I've felt for most of the year. I want to win, but I feel that there is a lot of wreckage left by Pelini that has to be cleaned up as well.

I preached from the start of fall camp that we couldn't afford to lose ANYBODY at LBer and DE. Freedom helped that some, but we were screwed at LBer. Banderas is no where near 100% but has to play. Young has played well for his youth but he shouldn't have to be a starter and get as many plays as he does. You can't usually be successful with a freshman starting at LBer.

 

[mwulf]

We won 3 national championships when I was in college...I am good

 

[HudsonValleyHusker]

I could understand patience if Riley was a young guy, who brought excitement to the program, had a Top 10 recruiting class, and had shown evidence that he could be a great head coach.

Nothing on his resume makes me believe he can make this program great again, and looking at him physically on the sideline, I seriously don't think he has more than 5 years left of coaching in him. He's looked almost lifeless on the sideline lately. By the time he gets all of his guys in here, he'll be over 65 years old.

That's the scary part of this whole situation.

 

[jflores]

That's the scary part of this whole situation.

Its not that scary. If its Riley's lot in life to clear out the Pelini mess, and then the next guy comes into a relatively nominal situation after he retires, its not an entirely unsuccessful run of a handful of years.

I was expecting us to be better than we are, but perhaps not quite at 9 wins. But I was expecting us to be particularly deeper and less injury ridden too, but that wasn't in the cards either.

 

[crinin the thane]

It is gonna take time. About 3 years. Then we'll see what the next staff can do.

 

[Bay_Area_Husker]

and what we think we know to gauge the winds of change.

Damon Benning has not been above question coaching decisions, but has preached time and player buy in, recruiting, etc. Damon has been explicit in the past that "you are what you are" and despite what fan expectations are week to week, nothing was probably radically going to change for NU in the course of the season. His latest tweet is about making practices more physical.

Frazier went out and basically went to bat for Riley on the radio the other day preaching time, player buy in, and generally, more onus on the players to both execute and get fired up for games. He was pretty explicit that the fan base is irrational in that this will change overnight. He also explicitly stated that this season isn't about W's and L's, its about changing a culture and developing trust. His latest tweet on the matter seems to continue this thought, his unhappiness with player fire at Purdue.

The Jet did much as Frazier did.

Zatechka has indicated he'd like to see more run identity and physicality, but generally preaching time, player buy in, recruiting, and generally more onus on the players to make plays. He also directly addressed the "burn the whole thing down, take West O money and put Alberts and Frost in charge" as laughable if not ill advised message board crap.

Milt Tenopir had the famous piece in the past 10 days or so, where he liked what the staff was doing, and so forth but the game has changed and NU isn't going to be like the old days. Things take time, etc.

Vedral today on the Big Red Over Reaction, not above questioning coaching decisions, but generally held that "this will take time" "change is coming" and some of the older players "need to be given parting gifts and a thanks for playing". He is presumably not happy with the outcome of the games, but his tenor was bright and even, and he ponied up with Sharp that on Nov 1, NU needs to become Riley's program.

A common theme here, that I'm able to discern, is that anyone who is remotely prominent in the Husker program and who probably has the ear of the AD from time to time, has *not once* called for Eichorst to burn this thing down and starting spending money until 11 wins shows up.

I think a common disconnect between the message boards and former players and coaches is that things that message board types feel are "excuses" such as injuries, building a culture, buy in, putting onus on the players to excecute etc are seen as small if not trivial excuses to us, and most people who have played or coached at that level, seem to indicate these are not small things to deal with and will take some number of seasons to turn around.

One thing I can appreciate about the celebrity take is that its measured and reasoned, and not prone to week to week swings. Like they have an actual direction to be rowing. So much of fan discourse is, oh the coaches suck, fire them now! and then next week, oh we see a little improvement, I can get behind this for the time being!

I don't see why the opinions of people who played for Nebraska as teenagers many years ago have much bearing here. Add to this the fact that Frazier was a terrible coach himself, and it undercuts the value of his opinion.

There hasn't really been much of a roller coaster ride this season. Aside from a brief ray of optimism following the Minnesota game, Nebraska football has been a crazy horse running toward a burning stable.

You're a good poster, but I really disagree with this assessment. People pointed to the fact that the media loved the Riley hire as evidence that Eichorst made the right choice. I heard the same sort of argument in the off-season.

So here is what we do know:

* 30 years ago, Riley coached in the CFL and had two good seasons. His overall winning percentage was .556.

* Riley left for the NFL and led one of its franchises to its worst ever record. He was fired after three seasons with a .292 record.

* Riley coached many years at Oregon State, and had a few good seasons. He was 7 games above .500 overall, but had a losing conference record.

* According to Rivals, Nebraska is #40 overall in recruiting (or #28 going by average stars). Nebraska's current average star ranking of 3.14, if it held up, would be worse than all but two of Pelini's recruiting classes.

* According to Sagarin rankings, Nebraska has played the 44th most difficult schedule in the country this season. In Callahan's final year (considered a disaster), Nebraska played the 4th most difficult schedule in the country.

* Riley is on-track to have the worst record of any Nebraska team since 1961.

 

[ExxHusker]

Tom Osborne used to say "this is football, got to find a way to win now". He felt that pressure and did what it took every year.

Tom Herman converted a wide receiver to QB to make it work. He is undefeated and around 15 in the polls and rising with a team that was down a LOT more than Nebraska.

What Riley and staff have done at Nebraska is crap. They haven't used our personnel effectively. They are killing time until they can do things their way and if passing and their "quarters defense" doesn't work in the B1G tough sh*t Nebraska. Thanks for the great retirement packages. We were getting nervous in Oregon that they were on to us.

 

[jflores]

I don't see why the opinions of people who played for Nebraska as teenagers many years ago have much bearing here. Add to this the fact that Frazier was a terrible coach himself, and it undercuts the value of his opinion.

There hasn't really been much of a roller coaster ride this season. Aside from a brief ray of optimism following the Minnesota game, Nebraska football has been a crazy horse running toward a burning stable.

You're a good poster, but I really disagree with this assessment. People pointed to the fact that the media loved the Riley hire as evidence that Eichorst made the right choice. I heard the same sort of argument in the off-season.

So here is what we do know:

* 30 years ago, Riley coached in the CFL and had two good seasons. His overall winning percentage was .556.

* Riley left for the NFL and led one of its franchises to its worst ever record. He was fired after three seasons with a .292 record.

* Riley coached many years at Oregon State, and had a few good seasons. He was 7 games above .500 overall, but had a losing conference record.

* According to Rivals, Nebraska is #40 overall in recruiting (or #28 going by average stars). Nebraska's current average star ranking of 3.14, if it held up, would be worse than all but two of Pelini's recruiting classes.

* According to Sagarin rankings, Nebraska has played the 44th most difficult schedule in the country this season. In Callahan's final year (considered a disaster), Nebraska played the 4th most difficult schedule in the country.

* Riley is on-track to have the worst record of any Nebraska team since 1961.

Well, celebrity opinions do hold sway like it or not. In court the Fraziers of the world would be called expert witnesses in Husker football, and your average high dollar booster pays lots of money to in part rub elbows with people of his stature along with power players in the administration.

I wouldn't count out so easily the influence of prominent former players on the folks who are still making payments on previous coaching staffs.

Certainly with Sipples piece and more media pieces to come the status of all or some of the coaches will be in question, but the difficult part is telling how much of that is real or just fan hopes. Pelini survived about twice as long as probably your average fan expected especially considering his antics the last three years.

 

[jflores]

I don't see why the opinions of people who played for Nebraska as teenagers many years ago have much bearing here. Add to this the fact that Frazier was a terrible coach himself, and it undercuts the value of his opinion.

There hasn't really been much of a roller coaster ride this season. Aside from a brief ray of optimism following the Minnesota game, Nebraska football has been a crazy horse running toward a burning stable.

You're a good poster, but I really disagree with this assessment. People pointed to the fact that the media loved the Riley hire as evidence that Eichorst made the right choice. I heard the same sort of argument in the off-season.

So here is what we do know:

* 30 years ago, Riley coached in the CFL and had two good seasons. His overall winning percentage was .556.

* Riley left for the NFL and led one of its franchises to its worst ever record. He was fired after three seasons with a .292 record.

* Riley coached many years at Oregon State, and had a few good seasons. He was 7 games above .500 overall, but had a losing conference record.

* According to Rivals, Nebraska is #40 overall in recruiting (or #28 going by average stars). Nebraska's current average star ranking of 3.14, if it held up, would be worse than all but two of Pelini's recruiting classes.

* According to Sagarin rankings, Nebraska has played the 44th most difficult schedule in the country this season. In Callahan's final year (considered a disaster), Nebraska played the 4th most difficult schedule in the country.

* Riley is on-track to have the worst record of any Nebraska team since 1961.

One might also note that if we write off Frazier thoughts as an under achieving hack of a coach, then anything that we personally say on these boards really doesn't matter by the same comparison.

 

[gldnglv165]

One might also note that if we write off Frazier thoughts as an under achieving hack of a coach, then anything that we personally say on these boards really doesn't matter by the same comparison.

True, but it's still an opinion. One of many. It may carry more weight than the regular message board poster, but still an opinion. I would like to know what he's basing that opinion off of. Gut feeling? He sees something that is not noticeable to the regular fan that only sees the team on Saturday afternoons? It would help put that opinion in a little context for the rest of us.

 

[Lincoln100]

Fully agree! Only 3 assistants that do a decent job: Bray; KWilliams; and Hughes. Every other one has been worse, by far. (And who would have thought Beck could call a better game than Langsdorf)

You mean like giving AA 3 total touches in the 2nd half against McNeese State? That Beck?

 

[nebcountry]

I think former players' opinions matter, it's just the weight that I give those opinions is a sticking point. BUT, except for some extreme fringe elements, it's looking like most people are moving to be on the same page.

 

[jflores]

True, but it's still an opinion. One of many. It may carry more weight than the regular message board poster, but still an opinion. I would like to know what he's basing that opinion off of. Gut feeling? He sees something that is not noticeable to the regular fan that only sees the team on Saturday afternoons? It would help put that opinion in a little context for the rest of us.

You can listen to his thoughts here.

Cliffs notes version, fan timeline expectations are skewed. Far more onus needs to be put on players and not coaches. He's been to practice and seeing the players being taught fundamentals, players not taking it upon themselves to improve/receive coaching/get fired up.

Vrzal made similar comments on Over Reaction yesterday. Showing some older players the door, etc.

 

[Bay_Area_Husker]

One might also note that if we write off Frazier thoughts as an under achieving hack of a coach, then anything that we personally say on these boards really doesn't matter by the same comparison.

Of course nothing we write here matters. It's an anonymous internet message board (and we all like to argue).Cool

 

[ssmill777]

You mean like giving AA 3 total touches in the 2nd half against McNeese State? That Beck?

Naw, the Beck that Urban Meyer and the Buckeyes snatched up - oh yeah, they're the defending national champs and currently undefeated.

 

[jflores]

Naw, the Beck that Urban Meyer and the Buckeyes snatched up - oh yeah, they're the defending national champs and currently undefeated.

Not going to enter the Beck fray, I typically liked Beck better than he seemed to be liked on the board, but OSU should be mollywomping people this year. I think they have severely disappointed alot of people considering their talent level and their coach.

 

[cubsker]

You mean like giving AA 3 total touches in the 2nd half against McNeese State? That Beck?

no, the one that didn't give AA the ball when he needed to make two yards in two plays against USC.

 

[swihawkeye]

If the team is so bad how do they put 48 points on Minnesota, a team that is leading late in the 3rd against Michigan. How do they score 29 points in one quarter of football. The problem they have is consistency and urgency. Patience is definitely needed. There is always growing pains and this season hurts.

add the Miami comeback in there too. the huskers are not as bad as the record indicates. even the purdue loss had a bright side. over 400 yards passing. it was his first start. give the backup qb the MSU game and see what he can do. I hope TA is back by the Iowa game.

 

[elvis1403]

and what we think we know to gauge the winds of change.

Damon Benning has not been above question coaching decisions, but has preached time and player buy in, recruiting, etc. Damon has been explicit in the past that "you are what you are" and despite what fan expectations are week to week, nothing was probably radically going to change for NU in the course of the season. His latest tweet is about making practices more physical.

Frazier went out and basically went to bat for Riley on the radio the other day preaching time, player buy in, and generally, more onus on the players to both execute and get fired up for games. He was pretty explicit that the fan base is irrational in that this will change overnight. He also explicitly stated that this season isn't about W's and L's, its about changing a culture and developing trust. His latest tweet on the matter seems to continue this thought, his unhappiness with player fire at Purdue.

The Jet did much as Frazier did.

Zatechka has indicated he'd like to see more run identity and physicality, but generally preaching time, player buy in, recruiting, and generally more onus on the players to make plays. He also directly addressed the "burn the whole thing down, take West O money and put Alberts and Frost in charge" as laughable if not ill advised message board crap.

Milt Tenopir had the famous piece in the past 10 days or so, where he liked what the staff was doing, and so forth but the game has changed and NU isn't going to be like the old days. Things take time, etc.

Vedral today on the Big Red Over Reaction, not above questioning coaching decisions, but generally held that "this will take time" "change is coming" and some of the older players "need to be given parting gifts and a thanks for playing". He is presumably not happy with the outcome of the games, but his tenor was bright and even, and he ponied up with Sharp that on Nov 1, NU needs to become Riley's program.

A common theme here, that I'm able to discern, is that anyone who is remotely prominent in the Husker program and who probably has the ear of the AD from time to time, has *not once* called for Eichorst to burn this thing down and starting spending money until 11 wins shows up.

I think a common disconnect between the message boards and former players and coaches is that things that message board types feel are "excuses" such as injuries, building a culture, buy in, putting onus on the players to excecute etc are seen as small if not trivial excuses to us, and most people who have played or coached at that level, seem to indicate these are not small things to deal with and will take some number of seasons to turn around.

One thing I can appreciate about the celebrity take is that its measured and reasoned, and not prone to week to week swings. Like they have an actual direction to be rowing. So much of fan discourse is, oh the coaches suck, fire them now! and then next week, oh we see a little improvement, I can get behind this for the time being!

Lmao what a joke we trade a coach who can't win big games for a nice guy coach who can't win any games!!!

 

[leodisflowers]

add the Miami comeback in there too. the huskers are not as bad as the record indicates. even the purdue loss had a bright side. over 400 yards passing. it was his first start. give the backup qb the MSU game and see what he can do. I hope TA is back by the Iowa game.

Swihawkeye, we are bad. There have been some ok performances, but we are bad. Purdue..... All I have to say.. Purdue... (says with a headshake)

 

[Hoosker Du]

add the Miami comeback in there too. the huskers are not as bad as the record indicates. even the purdue loss had a bright side. over 400 yards passing. it was his first start. give the backup qb the MSU game and see what he can do. I hope TA is back by the Iowa game.

People need to realize that we were beaten soundly by Miami. I don't give a crap whether we lost in overtime or not. During regulation, we got our assess handed to us, Miami went into prevent mode, got bored, etc.. and we got a second chance. It wasn't remotely an impressive game on our part.