Still living in the past, eh? I'm beginning to think big brother is a tad effeminate.
Is Iowa our Superbowl?
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Still living in the past, eh? I'm beginning to think big brother is a tad effeminate.
Top 25 because of numbers... Your average stars according to rivals is 2.65... That's awful! I guarantee you will not finish in the top 25 when all other schools are done with recruiting, including the huskers!
Then let's put something on it starting this year? Next year? 5 years? Ten years? Conference titles? Head to head? What let me know your thoughts when you can
Stars don't mean craps, Ferentz has proven that year in and year out by placing more players in the NFL than any other B1G program. The average stars rating for this year's team is lower than that of 2016, your point is moot.
That's your argument? That means if 2015 was worse than 2016 (as bad as 2016 is shaping up to be) you are gonna suck in 2-3 years when these recruits start showing up in the lineup.
Who cares about NFL... If he's so damn good and places players in the NFL why haven't you won a damn thing in the last 6 years?
Btw, if stars don't mean 'craps', why are you crowing about your top 25 class that will be lucky to be top 45 when the dust settles?
Some are acting like it is.. I see way too much energy being put into a team most consider beneath N.. I just don't get it
3 out of the last 4 isn't present time? Only in little brothers mind maybe...considering you all have not had much luck on Black Friday. Same ole same ole
We're not used to being this situation, so I'll have to defer to your expertise on that subject.
We may be chasing Iowa right now, but Iowa isn't so far in front as you think... How do you think the game goes if Tommy doesn't gift wrap the interceptions? I will give the pick 6. Great athletic play on iowa's part. But what about the other three?
That's not to say we don't have work to do... We have a ton of work. But if we do the work, look out.
I figured someone would go that route - "if Tommy doesn't..." Tommy is your QB, probably will be next year, and the game he played Saturday wasn't an anomaly. He leads the B1G in interceptions for a reason. The fact that you don't have a better alternative is a statement about your program. The fact that the coaching staff continued all year to put him in positions to make game changing mistakes is a statement about your program.
Since you ask, I can tell you that Iowa would not have approached the 2nd half with the same offensive plan had they not had the lead. Iowa sat on the ball, ran the clock and did nothing to put their lead in danger. Why? Because they could. That is what they do - what it takes to win. Don't think for a second that Iowa would not have had success in the middle of the field with our TEs if they had needed. Don't think for a second that Iowa wouldn't have created some balance offensively, used playaction and waggle action, and put the ball in the end zone when needed.
Wait - you will think that - you are a delusional Husker. This may be lost within your delusion, but Iowa is a far better team than Nebraska. It didn't matter what Tommie did. He was one problem along with your coaching staff, weak LB corp, weak secondary and overall undisciplined team.
"So far in front as I think" comment is confusing. I never said anything close. I am certainly not going to pound my chest and proclaim Iowa to be far ahead of Nebraska as a program. Iowa had the "it" factor this year and Nebraska had the opposite. There is no question those things could change as soon as next year. Nebraska could rebound and be a ten win team next year - one thing Nebraska fans still don't understand about the B1G (because of their continued arrogance and thinking they are better than everyone) is that there is very little difference between the 5-7 B1G team and a 10-2 B1G team. The conference is that good - not recognized nationally. It wasn't the same in the Big 12 - still isn't.
Since you ask, I can tell you that Iowa would not have approached the 2nd half with the same offensive plan had they not had the lead. Iowa sat on the ball, ran the clock and did nothing to put their lead in danger. Why? Because they could. That is what they do - what it takes to win. Don't think for a second that Iowa would not have had success in the middle of the field with our TEs if they had needed. Don't think for a second that Iowa wouldn't have created some balance offensively, used playaction and waggle action, and put the ball in the end zone when needed.
Wait - you will think that - you are a delusional Husker. This may be lost within your delusion, but Iowa is a far better team than Nebraska. It didn't matter what Tommie did. He was one problem along with your coaching staff, weak LB corp, weak secondary and overall undisciplined team.
"So far in front as I think" comment is confusing. I never said anything close. I am certainly not going to pound my chest and proclaim Iowa to be far ahead of Nebraska as a program. Iowa had the "it" factor this year and Nebraska had the opposite. There is no question those things could change as soon as next year. Nebraska could rebound and be a ten win team next year - one thing Nebraska fans still don't understand about the B1G (because of their continued arrogance and thinking they are better than everyone) is that there is very little difference between the 5-7 B1G team and a 10-2 B1G team. The conference is that good - not recognized nationally. It wasn't the same in the Big 12 - still isn't.
Iowa has a pretty favorable (again) next year. Hawkeyes will be in the thick of the B1G race in 2016.
Miami (OH)
Iowa State
North Dakota State
at Rutgers
Northwestern
at Minnesota
at Purdue
Wisconsin
(bye week)
at Penn State
Michigan
at Illinois
Nebraska
Miami (OH)
Iowa State
North Dakota State
at Rutgers
Northwestern
at Minnesota
at Purdue
Wisconsin
(bye week)
at Penn State
Michigan
at Illinois
Nebraska
All you did is link an article. I read the article and had to make a guess. Author of article said Iowa is ahead of Nebraska. Since you said nothing I had to guess at your motive for posting. Looks like I was wrong.
No arrogance intended on my part but if we have improved QB play that game is different. And save the talk about Iowa's offense. We ran nearly double the plays you ran. You ran 18 plays in the second half. That is not a recipe for success. We just couldn't finish drives. You employ this 'strategy' next week you will get killed.
If Iowa gets a two score lead again next week they will employ that strategy. It worked all year so I don't see them changing.
Iowa's offense scored all year when needed and did against Nebraska as well. If you believe Nebraska's defense would have put the stops on Iowa's offense had Iowa needed to score that is your prerogative. They didn't do it during the season against far lesser offenses but whatever.
Nebraska's defense was also quite a patchwork for most of the season. The Iowa game was the first time basically since the season opener most all the starting defenders were back together. The Nebraska defense got much better over the last couple weeks of the season, as they became more accustomed to schemes, terminology, etc. I think they would have put a stop to Iowa's offense if they needed to score.
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Fair enough. I agree injuries were an issue for Nebraska and their defense improved. From what I saw the LB play was still very weak and Iowa's stretch running game coupled with the waggle action was too much for that defense.
Nebraska interior DL was admittedly the best Iowa saw this year. Of potential future opponents I believe only Bama has equal.
Fair enough. I agree injuries were an issue for Nebraska and their defense improved. From what I saw the LB play was still very weak and Iowa's stretch running game coupled with the waggle action was too much for that defense.
Nebraska interior DL was admittedly the best Iowa saw this year. Of potential future opponents I believe only Bama has equal.
You might be right about iowa's ability to score at will as I didn't watch much of Iowa this year, but I still think it's a questionable strategy. You need to score when you can not kill clock when up just 10 in the third quarter.
Iowa fans are fine with it right now - were 12-0. But, it has been a source of frustrations in the past. Huskers won last year because of it. Iowa seems to have all the pieces in place this year - like many other KF teams - for it to work. This team also seems to have the "it" that great teams have - finding ways to win.
There isn't any reason to play non conference teams that have a pulse anymore. If a bug 10 teams runs the table and wins the big 10 ccg, they won't be left out of the playoffs.
The thing I don't get about Iowa fan is this year Nebraska is the suck of the suck, garbage team, a disgrace to the Big 10. Yet they forget they won 7, 8, and 4 games the previous 3 years. I guess I can see why they're so big on not living in the past, ha.
You haven't read my posts - have said nothing close to what you claim. Move on.
Which is why Kirk Ferentz was on the hot seat prior to this year. That ultra-conservative strategy has burned him far more than it has helped him over the years. It nearly got him several times this year.
I know i would gladly trade 7-8-4-12 wins for 10-9-9-5 wins for in an instance
I might be in the minority but Iowa has had a better 4 year run than Nebraska solely on the basis that they have managed to be nationally relevant at least once during that time span
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Iowa hasn't trailed in a game since week 3 and you say it almost got him numerous times this year? When?
KF was definitely on the hot seat - for a few different reasons. To his credit Iowa has made significant changes this year - many that people don't see or realize. But, Iowa's QB and RB play is significantly better this year than last. That has a lot to do with Iowa's success.
KF was definitely on the hot seat - for a few different reasons. To his credit Iowa has made significant changes this year - many that people don't see or realize. But, Iowa's QB and RB play is significantly better this year than last. That has a lot to do with Iowa's success.
Then you probably shouldn't have fired your coach. Nebraska wins 9 again this year with Pelini.
KF has years when it's least expected of having a good season and ends up having one...like this year.
There has also been years when Iowa had great expectations to win the conference or finish high in the polls and it does not materialize...
There has also been years when Iowa had great expectations to win the conference or finish high in the polls and it does not materialize...
Pitt game was tight
Iowa State game was tight til the end
Wisconsin was close
Minnesota was close
Nebraska hung around
Illinois and Indiana hung around too, but Iowa controlled those games a bit more than the score indicates
And as far as KF goes, I still think the massive buyout had more than anything to do with him staying around this year. Iowa fans wanted a change badly a year ago, even if they are walking back on those statements this year.
you r right ... I completely reversed those records thank you for catching... I would gladly take Iowa's last 4 years over Nebraska's
If you want to trade the last 4 years fine, but I have been a Husker fan a lot longer than 4 years....I'll take the last 53.
GBR.
Great point about KF's buyout. If that wasn't in place, I am not sure he would have survived last year. My gut tells me he would have been given this year to right the ship, but I am not sure. Again, a credit to KF for taking a look at the program and making changes in different areas.
Alumni - I don't totally agree with your game breakdown. ISU, Pitt and Wisky were back and forth games that were not due to Iowa being conservative. Once Iowa got a lead against Minny, and made some defensive adjustments at half, they did coast as they did with Nebraska.
Iowa simply runs the clock, does what they do and rarely gets out to big leads against anyone. If they do it is typically a result of forcing turnovers or breaking big runs. Iowa has done a good job of both this year (+14 in turnover margin and more 35+ runs this year than in a long time). That is why RB and QB play in this system is so vital. Iowa's QB has forced teams to defend the entire field - haven't had that in awhile. That has opened up the running game for big plays and Iowa now has RBs that can make big plays. Iowa didn't have either the past few years - probably a big reason for the season going this far.
Alumni - I don't totally agree with your game breakdown. ISU, Pitt and Wisky were back and forth games that were not due to Iowa being conservative. Once Iowa got a lead against Minny, and made some defensive adjustments at half, they did coast as they did with Nebraska.
Iowa simply runs the clock, does what they do and rarely gets out to big leads against anyone. If they do it is typically a result of forcing turnovers or breaking big runs. Iowa has done a good job of both this year (+14 in turnover margin and more 35+ runs this year than in a long time). That is why RB and QB play in this system is so vital. Iowa's QB has forced teams to defend the entire field - haven't had that in awhile. That has opened up the running game for big plays and Iowa now has RBs that can make big plays. Iowa didn't have either the past few years - probably a big reason for the season going this far.
