Interesting to read about the Tenn QB

[HuskerCubs]

I know just about everyone has probably heard about this by now so just going to say I just read an article on the Athletic detailing the days leading up to the kid no showing the Friday before their spring game. This is what happens when parents try to handle their sons recruiting and NIL without any agent type helping them. Parents get greedy. Now this father could have screwed up both of his QB son's futures.

If you have a sub here is the link. I mean also look at the last name I forgot what his name sounds like so I am legit saying it as I-am-a-leava(leaver)

Nico Iamaleava

 

[Big bo fan]

I know just about everyone has probably heard about this by now so just going to say I just read an article on the Athletic detailing the days leading up to the kid no showing the Friday before their spring game. This is what happens when parents try to handle their sons recruiting and NIL without any agent type helping them. Parents get greedy. Now this father could have screwed up both of his QB son's futures.

If you have a sub here is the link. I mean also look at the last name I forgot what his name sounds like so I am legit saying it as I-am-a-leava(leaver)

Nico Iamaleava

Not that he was necessary interested in coming here. But it’s pretty obvious why Rhule and co stopped communicating.

 

[ct husker]

pimps involved is what it is. They realize he will probably never play in the NFL. NIL is killing a good thing. Minor leagues as everyone says, but very few Minor League baseball players ever pan....but they did not go to college, they chose the "pro" route.

NIL was the dumbest thing ever invented.

 

[ct husker]

Not that he was necessary interested in coming here. But it’s pretty obvious why Rhule and co stopped communicating.

Why would Rhule even talk or entertain bringing this person in, regardless of NIL. He has no place here, he would never start or play.

 

[Brasky Pants]

pimps involved is what it is. They realize he will probably never play in the NFL. NIL is killing a good thing. Minor leagues as everyone says, but very few Minor League baseball players ever pan....but they did not go to college, they chose the "pro" route.

NIL was the dumbest thing ever invented.

Dom spent alot of December pimping out Dylan to other programs to use as leverage here.

This stuff is the norm now unfortunately. Hopefully this case with Nico turns the tide as it was the proverbial FAFO moment we all needed. Its biggest thing to happen in NIL to start to help shift the power balance a bit

 

[Big bo fan]

Dom spent alot of December pimping out Dylan to other programs to use as leverage here.

This stuff is the norm now unfortunately. Hopefully this case with Nico turns the tide as it was the proverbial FAFO moment we all needed. Its biggest thing to happen in NIL to start to help shift the power balance a bit

Yep because according to the article a lot of programs passed on him at Papas and agents asking price:

 

[IndyHusker]

pimps involved is what it is. They realize he will probably never play in the NFL. NIL is killing a good thing. Minor leagues as everyone says, but very few Minor League baseball players ever pan....but they did not go to college, they chose the "pro" route.

NIL was the dumbest thing ever invented.

It wasn't exactly an invention. It was an inevitable. Sad, but inevitable.

 

[Norva]

If we get a salary cap this will be less likely to happen

First, no team with a $18-19 million salary cap is gonnna spend four million on a QB.

Second, a QB would be insane to do that knowing the school can’t afford anyone else good. You can’t destroy the roster pool.

 

[ct husker]

It wasn't exactly an invention. It was an inevitable. Sad, but inevitable.

it's was never inevitable. The government intervened to make it legal....

 

[Brasky Pants]

it's was never inevitable. The government intervened to make it legal....

I don’t think the “legality” is the problem. I have zero problems with kids making money. If anything it could have helped level the playing field as it’s not like players werent getting paid at many schools prior to NIL.

The lack of any type of guardrails coupled with unlimited transfer portal (the bigger problem here IMO) are the problems

 

[la jolla hskr]

it's was never inevitable. The government intervened to make it legal....

About 135 years ago when Congress banned all agreements in restraint of trade. Same law that allowed us to go from 1 or possibly 2 tv cfb games a week in the 70s to being able to watch more than time allows today. Damned yoke of federal oppression.

 

[ct husker]

About 135 years ago when Congress banned all agreements in restraint of trade. Same law that allowed us to go from 1 or possibly 2 tv cfb games a week in the 70s to being able to watch more than time allows today. Damned yoke of federal oppression.

come on dude.

 

[ct husker]

I don’t think the “legality” is the problem. I have zero problems with kids making money. If anything it could have helped level the playing field as it’s not like players werent getting paid at many schools prior to NIL.

The lack of any type of guardrails coupled with unlimited transfer portal (the bigger problem here IMO) are the problems

Well, how many deals has the government had for guardrails.. IT WAS POORLY done, just like any government decision. Not play a down, ok, pay them 4m. It's a completely stupid concept

In business.. You are going to bring me a BOOK of customers and my company is going to make X or something close? Ok, I'll give your a sales agreement/contract, if you do not perform....Well bye. Been thru that for 20 plus years..

 

[argon]

Well, how many deals has the government had for guardrails.. IT WAS POORLY done, just like any government decision. Not play a down, ok, pay them 4m. It's a completely stupid concept

In business.. You are going to bring me a BOOK of customers and my company is going to make X or something close? Ok, I'll give your a sales agreement/contract, if you do not perform....Well bye. Been thru that for 20 plus years..

This was a Supreme Court decision not an act of legislation

 

[la jolla hskr]

Wtf does this have to do with players?

To simplify. A group of competitors, the member institutions of the NCAA, had a rule that players could not be compensated for their name, image or likeness. If the players received such compensation, they were ineligible.

That rule was determined by the courts to be a violation of the Sherman Antitrust Act of 1890. That determination happened before any specific NIL legislation or NCAA rules.

Now, if you want to say that the money being paid to players as “NIL” currently really isn’t compensation for name, image or likeness, I agree 100 percent, save for a number of high profile players with legit ad gigs. But the end of the ban was litigation under an old law, not some legislative intervention.

 

[ct husker]

This was a Supreme Court decision not an act of legislation

It's the Government. Who gives a frick what branch or whatever. It was a dumb decision.

 

[HuskerCubs]

This was a Supreme Court decision not an act of legislation

Which is bad in amongst itself. I love the Supreme Court do not get me wrong but far too often the government has let them make policy because the a--hats in Congress refuse to do their jobs. The court made a ruling on what it interpreted. There are really no laws backing it other than precedent in general. Congress after this went to the courts then needed to work out a solution based on that ruling, like others that have happened in the past and they just let it stand on that.

Nothing really good or new comes from Capitol Hill they just let the courts make interpretations. I would rant further but I would give Sklar and Robster too many headaches the legislative in the states sometimes but mostly in the federal just refuse to do any real work. And I will say this I mean all of them. Not one side or the other.

 

[valleyred]

Only way to ‘fix’ it is to go back to pure amateur model. Full cost of attendance + game day per diem. One free transfer w/o having to sit.

Schools can put together post-grad pension type packages to use as recruiting tool as a way to compensate beyond the free education/housing/food package they currently receive.

I realize not gonna happen, but doesn’t mean it shouldn’t.

 

[IndyHusker]

it's was never inevitable. The government intervened to make it legal....

They had no choice. The lawsuits were coming and so were the $$$. Paying players was never illegal per the government.

 

[IndyHusker]

It's the Government. Who gives a frick what branch or whatever. It was a dumb decision.

The Supreme Court is not a legislative part of government. You do know that right? It wasn’t a dumb decision. It was based on constitutional principles. We don’t like it and guardrails definitely need to be put in place but those aren’t going to come from the government.

 

[jbsker]

About 135 years ago when Congress banned all agreements in restraint of trade. Same law that allowed us to go from 1 or possibly 2 tv cfb games a week in the 70s to being able to watch more than time allows today. Damned yoke of federal oppression.

Oh how I loved watching the college football highlights at six in the morning
To the grateful voice of Bill Flemming!!!!! love getting up early just to watch those highlights and his voice, especially trying to cheer little squiggly lines in my cable box between channel 34 and 35 just to make it clear!!!!! those were the days!!!!

 

[IndyHusker]

Well, how many deals has the government had for guardrails.. IT WAS POORLY done, just like any government decision. Not play a down, ok, pay them 4m. It's a completely stupid concept

In business.. You are going to bring me a BOOK of customers and my company is going to make X or something close? Ok, I'll give your a sales agreement/contract, if you do not perform....Well bye. Been thru that for 20 plus years..

So, you actually want the government getting their nose deeper into legal private and commercial business decisions? Doesn’t fit your profile on anything else.

 

[argon]

It's the Government. Who gives a frick what branch or whatever. It was a dumb decision.

because you essentially implied that the manner in which NIL is run was a construct of the government . . . it isn't, That the market wasn't prepared for this eventuality can be blamed on the NCAA and its member institutions

 

[ct husker]

So, you actually want the government getting their nose deeper into legal private and commercial business decisions? Doesn’t fit your profile on anything else.

I want them out of everything, they are the largest problem. They should have never been part of NIL. Maybe I am wording my stuff wrong.

 

[ct husker]

because you essentially implied that the manner in which NIL is run was a construct of the government . . . it isn't, That the market wasn't prepared for this eventuality can be blamed on the NCAA and its member institutions

It was allowed by the Gov. They ruled on it

 

[ct husker]

The Supreme Court is not a legislative part of government. You do know that right? It wasn’t a dumb decision. It was based on constitutional principles. We don’t like it and guardrails definitely need to be put in place but those aren’t going to come from the government.

what ever the terms are.

 

[IndyHusker]

It was allowed by the Gov. They ruled on it

That pesky Constitution.

 

[IndyHusker]

I want them out of everything, they are the largest problem. They should have never been part of NIL. Maybe I am wording my stuff wrong.

You are wording it very wrong.

 

[HuskerCubs]

I feel like the problem is greed on all sides. The NCAA and it's alleged non-profit status. The Universities that make a ton of money in today's world, no one needs that explanation. And even the players not as a group now but as individuals.

I get that maybe they should get paid for their work, they should. What probably needs to happen across all of college football is to give them equal shares with each other. They already get the education, room and board and the old stipends, with the money that the universities are taking in with TV deals and the like then maybe add on to it. 100k a year or some other random number that allows them to get rewarded for their participation. As we all know there are many that will end their careers in college when they graduate then at least they will have just a little more than the degree to start off their new chapters.

The ones that go on to professional, they have been compensated for their time at college quite fairly with their new contracts then taking over. And who knows perhaps they will learn a little something about having money already and not waste it like so many do while in the pros.

That takes an agreement arbitrated by something or someone. It could be legislation, or it could be independent if the NCAA still has any voice in it plus the U's and the players making an agreement. Something though has to be done or we will end up with maybe the best of the best colleges breaking off and just becoming basically a minor league of pro football, no one wants that.

 

[IndyHusker]

I feel like the problem is greed on all sides. The NCAA and it's alleged non-profit status. The Universities that make a ton of money in today's world, no one needs that explanation. And even the players not as a group now but as individuals.

I get that maybe they should get paid for their work, they should. What probably needs to happen across all of college football is to give them equal shares with each other. They already get the education, room and board and the old stipends, with the money that the universities are taking in with TV deals and the like then maybe add on to it. 100k a year or some other random number that allows them to get rewarded for their participation. As we all know there are many that will end their careers in college when they graduate then at least they will have just a little more than the degree to start off their new chapters.

The ones that go on to professional, they have been compensated for their time at college quite fairly with their new contracts then taking over. And who knows perhaps they will learn a little something about having money already and not waste it like so many do while in the pros.

That takes an agreement arbitrated by something or someone. It could be legislation, or it could be independent if the NCAA still has any voice in it plus the U's and the players making an agreement. Something though has to be done or we will end up with maybe the best of the best colleges breaking off and just becoming basically a minor league of pro football, no one wants that.

The legislation won’t hold up in court, though. Compensation can’t be legislated outside of government.

 

[argon]

it's was never inevitable. The government intervened to make it legal....

That’s not how it happened, sorry. Just stop arguing. You are sinfully ill informed

 

[HuskerCubs]

The legislation won’t hold up in court, though. Compensation can’t be legislated outside of government.

That is why I prefer an arbitrated decision of some kind. Pay everyone on the roster equally all of them not specific players as they all contributed in some way. It's college they are getting something fair over that free education and what not regardless of "importance"

That would stop situations like this specific one where one players greed screws the team.

 

[IndyHusker]

That is why I prefer an arbitrated decision of some kind. Pay everyone on the roster equally all of them not specific players as they all contributed in some way. It's college they are getting something fair over that free education and what not regardless of "importance"

That would stop situations like this specific one where one players greed screws the team.

Won’t ever hold up in court. The star QB could easily prove that he’s generating more $$ for the program than the fourth string freshman DB.

 

[HuskerCubs]

Won’t ever hold up in court. The star QB could easily prove that he’s generating more $$ for the program than the fourth string freshman DB.

OK, that is where the arbitrator helps. Fr have a level, So and all the way to Sr's. If you are a starter, there is a bonus, if you play in x amount of games bonuses again. Whatever they want to believe it is still college football this is the last time I will repeat it they always have gotten something out of it, but I agree with them it was not completely fair vs what the Universities received.

Paying one player 4m and some others whatever is not a sustainable model in the end. There has to be floors for all to get some form of compensation and some limits as well so as not to reduce college football to 20-40 meaningful teams. And it needs an all around agreement not the NCAA telling them this is how it will be.

 

[IndyHusker]

OK, that is where the arbitrator helps. Fr have a level, So and all the way to Sr's. If you are a starter, there is a bonus, if you play in x amount of games bonuses again. Whatever they want to believe it is still college football this is the last time I will repeat it they always have gotten something out of it, but I agree with them it was not completely fair vs what the Universities received.

Paying one player 4m and some others whatever is not a sustainable model in the end. There has to be floors for all to get some form of compensation and some limits as well so as not to reduce college football to 20-40 meaningful teams. And it needs an all around agreement not the NCAA telling them this is how it will be.

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I think this would be something that could work but all the schools would have to agree to it. My guess is that a team NIL cap would have the best chance of flying.

 

[stan raymond]

I don’t think the “legality” is the problem. I have zero problems with kids making money. If anything it could have helped level the playing field as it’s not like players werent getting paid at many schools prior to NIL.

The lack of any type of guardrails coupled with unlimited transfer portal (the bigger problem here IMO) are the problems

No problem with NIL at all, should have been legal a long time ago. But we are so far past NIL, the pay for play stuff is just plain nuts when you have unlimited transfers. It's bonkers in every sport.

Hope the House thing gets done, that should at least buy some stability for 10 years.

The unlimited transfer thing is just awful, awful for fans, coach and actually for players, So many players will end up in much worse spots than what the left.

 

[Big Red Phoenix]

I feel like the problem is greed on all sides. The NCAA and it's alleged non-profit status. The Universities that make a ton of money in today's world, no one needs that explanation. And even the players not as a group now but as individuals.

I get that maybe they should get paid for their work, they should. What probably needs to happen across all of college football is to give them equal shares with each other. They already get the education, room and board and the old stipends, with the money that the universities are taking in with TV deals and the like then maybe add on to it. 100k a year or some other random number that allows them to get rewarded for their participation. As we all know there are many that will end their careers in college when they graduate then at least they will have just a little more than the degree to start off their new chapters.

The ones that go on to professional, they have been compensated for their time at college quite fairly with their new contracts then taking over. And who knows perhaps they will learn a little something about having money already and not waste it like so many do while in the pros.

That takes an agreement arbitrated by something or someone. It could be legislation, or it could be independent if the NCAA still has any voice in it plus the U's and the players making an agreement. Something though has to be done or we will end up with maybe the best of the best colleges breaking off and just becoming basically a minor league of pro football, no one wants that.

Your first sentence basically summed up this country in a nutshell. Especially the govt.

 

[Husker06]

Why would Rhule even talk or entertain bringing this person in, regardless of NIL. He has no place here, he would never start or play.

Calm down.

 

[Husker06]

No problem with NIL at all, should have been legal a long time ago. But we are so far past NIL, the pay for play stuff is just plain nuts when you have unlimited transfers. It's bonkers in every sport.

Hope the House thing gets done, that should at least buy some stability for 10 years.

The unlimited transfer thing is just awful, awful for fans, coach and actually for players, So many players will end up in much worse spots than what the left.

I couldn’t sgree more. This all calms down organically once the powers that be (rightfully) address unlimited transfers.

 

[knightwxc5000]

It was allowed by the Gov. They ruled on it

God damned free market. I can't believe the government allowed college football players to participate in capitalism. Only I should be allowed to do that.