In hindsight, Deion did the right thing. He walked into a room full of losers in Boulder and told them they were a bunch of f-ing losers and they would be replaced. He got rid of the guys that were used to that losing culture.
I'm not blaming coaches on this..
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In hindsight, Deion did the right thing. He walked into a room full of losers in Boulder and told them they were a bunch of f-ing losers and they would be replaced. He got rid of the guys that were used to that losing culture.
I'm not saying the coaches have been great throughout this thing. In fact I'm not saying they don't deserve some criticism but LAST NIGHT wasn't on them.
I think Ruhle probably needs to change about half of his staff. I knew some of these guys wouldn't work. Satterfield was a slam dunk no go for me from day one but I gave him a chance.
But at some point the kids have gotta do what they are supposed to do. The things I mentioned are classic examples of players NOT doing the things it takes to win. Even though they were surely coached to do better.
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I hope that's alcohol talking. Otherwise you know the answer to that. Lord...
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I blame Foley for a lot of stuff this year as well. I also have to give him credit as the special teams has improved a lot from earlier in the year.
That said do you think IGC was "coached" to do what he did? Or do you think he would tell you he knew better and made a bone headed decision and should've gotten out of the way and waved everyone off??
I'm pretty sure we know the answer to that. Again the players at some point have to do what they are supposed to. Bad thing is IGC is back their BECAUSE of his decisions. He's not gonna house a 75 yard PR. I could see if that had been the frosh Barney back their making that decision. But a guy with his experience absolutely without a doubt knows better and I guarantee you he would tell you the same thing yet he didn't do it....even tho he had all year long.
That's on on coaching????
Nah...
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That crap the control who plays and who doesn't
This loss in squarely on coach Rhule he is the HMFIC and gets a kings ransom for it. Waterboy for fvcks sake we have a clown
Coaches can always take the blame and there's plenty of blame to go around. But there's no way that the coaches "clearly" lost the game. You're entitled to your opinion though and I'm sure that you're dug in on your position. That's fine. Let's be realistic, Iowa has been perceived nationally as the better team all year and we were underdogs going into the game. The statistical dominance shows that we outplayed them. Take away just one player blunder and we win the game.
Not all of them but yes some of them. Those weren't good hires either imo. But more than one thing can be true...
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Always seems like deflection from the fact Nebraska made another bad hire....who hired a clown car full of buddiea boobs and kids
Well they have lost for 5 years. They ARE part of the problem.
Coach Rhule is not even a .500 coach......guess that explains losing to the waterboy
I hear ya and to an extent I can agree. A lot of these guys are been here 5 or 6 years. Coach out 4 or 5 years in a year and a half?
Maybe...but let's not act like it's easy or that these coaches haven't put them in positions to make "the" play. At some point they have to make "the" play.
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I respect your opinions and takes, but somehow, teams with good coaches do not drive themselves into the ditch again and again, regardless of coaching and practicing. Something doesn’t add up and it’s not as simple as a bunch of bad apple seniors and players just not executing.
For coaches to lose a game, that would usually be more of a deal where the game plan sucked and the team was unprepared. That clearly was not the case last night. Anyone who pins this loss on the coaches just has an agenda and is force fitting reality to match that. Iowa was viewed nationally as the better team all season long and we kicked their ass almost all game long.
I'm not saying it's that simple. Our coaches have to be better also. In fact I think half the staff that was hired probably shouldn't have. Especially in the offensive side. I'm not trying to give those guys a pass.
My point was more about last night than as a whole. I don't blame last night on the coaches. I don't think they had anything in particular that caused us to lose this game.
I gave 5 examples of players errors that clearly aren't coached that way that if players simply do their job on a couple of them we win that game. This my point of saying ...u can lead a horse to water
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Play different players then....why keep trying to polish the same turds and expect different results
You don't think they did? You see Fidone get pulled last week? Did you notice Gatulla get pulled after giving up an early sack? Did you see number 56 get inserted in his place? Did you see him give up a sack also? Yes all of that happened last night.
My point is you can do that and replace, replace, replace, but at some point when u are in position to make a play u have to do it. Blame whoever you want if it makes you feel better but our guys aren't making those plays.
Simply if Raiola makes the routine pass at Illinois we win.
If IGC or Bullock make those plays Iowa may not have even scored last night.
But yeah it's all on coaches.
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It's not easy to win a night game in Iowa City unless you are Ohio State or Oregon. Pretty damn hard if Iowa has better players. So if you are running downfield wide open, catch the damn ball. I don't put all of the blame on the players who make these mistakes. Coaches share responsibility for the product that gets put out there. But for the love of God, make a damn play. Snap it back to the holder correctly. Come through under pressure. Just once.
Nope our 2 million dollar QB was shown proper game management by a 4th string waterboy.
Either Lateef also comes in to challenge or we bring in a grad transfer or successful portal guy. Raiola needs some pressure to produce. He also needs to lose 15 lbs and work on his speed. He is OK but not a five star talent. Needs to come back vstly improved IMO.
Now you know why Georgia didn't give a shit that he flipped....he's just not that good
What about it? Isn't he a player also? He has to learn to value the ball more. Especially in situations like that.
Benhardt has to do his job as well. Can't get beat off the edge like that. 6th year Sr? One is a frosh? You expecting HIM not to make mistakes? He's gonna make em. But I'm much more inclined to understand that coming from a Freshman than a 6th year senior.
The problem I see is that y'all want it all to be one way. It's not. I understand players are gonna make mistakes. I know all coaches aren't equal either. Could our coaches be better in some spots? Your damn right it can and SHOULD BE. I'm not giving them a pass big picture wise. What I'm saying is last night they were NOT the problem.
So lemme guess you thinking they should've pulled Dylan before the last drive that he fumbled on and inserted who? Harberg? Kaedlin? Or Grimstaad maybe?
I'm curious ..
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If Nayor catches that pass and actually runs with it, we wouldn't have been in that situation.
A lot easier to do that if you are bringing the top two picks in the NFL draft with you. And his 13-11 won-loss record wouldn't look as good if he hadn't escaped to the weak Big 12.
You gonna respond to the pulling and replacing of players like Gatulla, Fidone, and Bonner or just keep asking questions?
They clearly have done that RIGHT??
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Yeah the same one who also fumbled the ball but luckily got it back. But go ahead with your rant.
It's ok to be mad but at least understand it's not all or nothing. More than one thing can be true ...
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Maybe so but that most important player was schooled.by the waterboy.....you could see it coming a mile away.
Rhule allowed it to happen.
My point exactly. But but but...lemme guess our teenage WR coach didn't "coach" him well enough to make that catch. Am I right?
That's what meanfarmer will tell ya..
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Yeah...you clearly don't know what you are talking about lol. Just be mad and maybe you will figure it out later.
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You know who knows what they are doing? The headcoach of the 4th. String waterboy.
I've wasted enough time trying to explain. It's clear you are dug in. You can die in that hill if you like. HCMR lost that game last night not the players. Have a better day today than you did yesterday.
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