If Miles ever wants to beat Creighton

[newAD]

he needs to look at what Baylor does defensively. Creighton scored 100 last night against UCLA. Tonight, they won’t break 60. This is the 2nd time in 3 years the Bears have totally frustrated CU, the last time in the dance against Doug McDermott in his final college game. I realize Baylor is very long and athletic, but their D is legit.

If Miles goes business as usual defensively against the Jays this year, it will be ugly.

 

[Sooner_or_Later]

Crayton is Baylor’s bitch. So sad

 

[kaz36]

Crayton is Baylor’s bitch. So sad

And, unfortunately, Nebraska has been Creighton's bitch.

 

[newAD]

And, unfortunately, Nebraska has been Creighton's bitch.

And being objective, I see no reason that doesn’t continue this year.

 

[Mtnhusker]

he needs to look at what Baylor does defensively. Creighton scored 100 last night against UCLA. Tonight, they won’t break 60. This is the 2nd time in 3 years the Bears have totally frustrated CU, the last time in the dance against Doug McDermott in his final college game. I realize Baylor is very long and athletic, but their D is legit.

If Miles goes business as usual defensively against the Jays this year, it will be ugly.

It also involves Miles being able to out-coach another team. I don't question the defense but I do find myself shaking my head at the lack of offensive identity or flow.

 

[newAD]

It also involves Miles being able to out-coach another team. I don't question the defense but I do find myself shaking my head at the lack of offensive identity or flow.

So you aren’t a fan of the No Motion offense?

 

[daddy mack]

he needs to look at what Baylor does defensively. Creighton scored 100 last night against UCLA. Tonight, they won’t break 60. This is the 2nd time in 3 years the Bears have totally frustrated CU, the last time in the dance against Doug McDermott in his final college game. I realize Baylor is very long and athletic, but their D is legit.

If Miles goes business as usual defensively against the Jays this year, it will be ugly.

He won't win

 

[cubsker]

creighton missed a ton of wide open 3s they usually make. it wasn't anything like the tournament game a few years ago.

 

[t7w0c1]

creighton missed a ton of wide open 3s they usually make. it wasn't anything like the tournament game a few years ago.

This is true but they were also rushing a lot of those open shots so they wouldn't be challenged. It really kind of looked like the same thing NU was doing against SJ's.

 

[cubsker]

i thought the bigger problem was Harrell. He couldn't make a 4 foot shot. if he makes a few of those, it never even would have been a game.

 

[HuskerDana]

F craydon. But they will boat-race NU again this year.

 

[schuele]

The school of thought that says you can’t play zone against teams with 3-point shooters is outdated. But your zone has to be active and something more than a change-of-pace defense you use to hide bad defensive players. Baylor also hit some really clutch shots down the stretch that they weren’t making much of the night.

 

[WC_'sker]

i thought the bigger problem was Harrell. He couldn't make a 4 foot shot. if he makes a few of those, it never even would have been a game.

Creighton missed a number of close shots. Some were rushed, others were from looking over their shoulder waiting for the block. Baylor's frontcourt is tall and athletic.

 

[JohnRossEwing]

They missed those 3's because Baylor makes you rush and shoot over them...even when they aren't there. It was what that zone does to teams.

 

[Hoosker Du]

Never fear...the weave is here.

 

[headcard]

Just have a roster full of long and active McDonalds All-American like Baylor and you can play asuffocating zone too

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

It also involves Miles being able to out-coach another team. I don't question the defense but I do find myself shaking my head at the lack of offensive identity or flow.

Defense is and has been the problem against creyton

 

[GretnaShawn]

Creighton shot like 15% or something crazy from 3. They just went cold. At one point they when on an 0-10 shooting run from 3.

 

[JaySker402]

Creighton shot like 15% or something crazy from 3. They just went cold. At one point they when on an 0-10 shooting run from 3.

30% or so from the field. not gonna win to many with that stat line.

 

[huskerbaseball13]

Defense is and has been the problem against creyton

That would be great if it were true. But its not. We have been equally as bad on offense against them(surprise surprise). And this is against a Creighton team that is usually average at best on offense. DeVries has owned Miles by simply just packing it in and forcing us to shoot jump shots. And unfortunately, every year under Miles we are a very poor shooting team. We will see if that changes this year. Want to beat Creighton? Start making them pay for sagging off.

2013
FG%- 32
3PT%- 25

2014
FG%-42
3PT%-26

2015
FG%-37
3PT%-26

2016
FG%-39
3PT%-19

2017
FG%-32
3PT%-13

 

[SeaOfRed75]

**** Creighton.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

That would be great if it were true. But its not. We have been equally as bad on offense against them(surprise surprise). And this is against a Creighton team that is usually average at best on offense. DeVries has owned Miles by simply just packing it in and forcing us to shoot jump shots. And unfortunately, every year under Miles we are a very poor shooting team. We will see if that changes this year. Want to beat Creighton? Start making them pay for sagging off.

2013
FG%- 32
3PT%- 25

2014
FG%-42
3PT%-26

2015
FG%-37
3PT%-26

2016
FG%-39
3PT%-19

2017
FG%-32
3PT%-13

Miles refuses to change up the defense and gets behind by 20 by about the 2nd media timeout every year. They enter it into the high post and either run back cuts or screens off that to the 3 point line. Game is over early. But I agree. We shoot horribly against them, but that is a Miles team calling card against everyone. Not gonna outscore them in a shootout after getting smashed early every time they play

 

[spinner4]

I wouldn't read too much into what Baylor did defensively. I'm not taking away another from the Bears, they played great. But the Jays had to play top 25 teams in back to back nights. IMO a lot had to do with being tired. They were up 9 @ half and just looked a little beat that second half. You see it all the time in the NBA. Team plays back to back games, wins the first, goes up big in the half of game 2 and comes out dragging in the 2nd half.

IMO Miles will always have issues with Creighton. He never gets a true home court advantage and Creighton talent is much better than the Huskers. And let's face it Coach McDermott is a way better coach than Miles. I'd love nothing more than to see Nu vs Cu be a marquee matchup that goes back and fourth. I always say that's the one game I hate every year, but until NU gets a new basketball coach, they will be 2nd best in the state

 

[Harry Caray]

If Miles ever wants to beat Creighton, he needs Greg McDermott to leave Creighton. He is 0-13 all-time against him.

 

[dinglefritz]

That would be great if it were true. But its not. We have been equally as bad on offense against them(surprise surprise). And this is against a Creighton team that is usually average at best on offense. DeVries has owned Miles by simply just packing it in and forcing us to shoot jump shots. And unfortunately, every year under Miles we are a very poor shooting team. We will see if that changes this year. Want to beat Creighton? Start making them pay for sagging off.

2013
FG%- 32
3PT%- 25

2014
FG%-42
3PT%-26

2015
FG%-37
3PT%-26

2016
FG%-39
3PT%-19

2017
FG%-32
3PT%-13

Creighton = Very good this year. NU = Looks pretty average. Our shooting other than Allen isn't good.

 

[newAD]

creighton missed a ton of wide open 3s they usually make. it wasn't anything like the tournament game a few years ago.

Yes the game 3 years ago was worse for Creighton. This one they blew it.

 

[cidsports]

Baylor is a good, long team. They have Creighton's number and 2014 was never a game compared to last night.

 

[newAD]

Creighton shot like 15% or something crazy from 3. They just went cold. At one point they when on an 0-10 shooting run from 3.

Baylor adjusted in the 2nd and didn’t leave the shooters and dared RH to hit close shots, and took away the easy passes. It’s amazing what happens to CU when the 3s become the only option.

 

[erinp]

Yes the game 3 years ago was worse for Creighton. This one they blew it.

if you want to play D like Baylor then you have to have their players.
They have been exceptionally tall and long for years. i mean freaky tall and long.
thats what makes their zone difficult.

 

[newAD]

Baylor is a good, long team. They have Creighton's number and 2014 was never a game compared to last night.

They are absolutely a good and long team, but that defense can slow them down a heck of a lot better than what Miles has tried. Creighton has shown the ability to torch Miles’ man D.

 

[cidsports]

They are absolutely a good and long team, but that defense can slow them down a heck of a lot better than what Miles has tried. Creighton has shown the ability to torch Miles’ man D.

I really like the response the players are giving after Toby's nasty looking ankle injury.

McDermott has a good roster and a good game plan.

 

[newAD]

if you want to play D like Baylor then you have to have their players.
They have been exceptionally tall and long for years. i mean freaky tall and long.
thats what makes their zone difficult.

Yes I pointed that out in the opening post of the thread that they are long and athletic. It still wouldn’t hurt for Nebraska to try it when you look at the past results.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Yes I pointed that out in the opening post of the thread that they are long and athletic. It still wouldn’t hurt for Nebraska to try it when you look at the past results.

I get what you are saying but the length and athleticism of the defenders had more to do with it than simply the defense Drew designed. Don’t you think? That would be like telling a slow kid to just run faster and you can win the race.

 

[PeliniTheCrutch]

Miles will never beat Creighton. Creighton scores points...Miles coaches maybe the worst offense in the NCAA.

 

[newAD]

I get what you are saying but the length and athleticism of the defenders had more to do with it than simply the defense Drew designed. Don’t you think? That would be like telling a slow kid to just run faster and you can win the race.

Sure but do you think Baylor’s defenders would have fared as well playing straight man or in that zone? Could they keep all that size out there if they did?

 

[newAD]

Miles will never beat Creighton. Creighton scores points...Miles coaches maybe the worst offense in the NCAA.

It is certainly predictable and will be until Miles gets some shooters who can show they can consistently hit open 3s.

 

[Suvey101885]

Creighton lives by the three and dies by the three as usual.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Sure but do you think Baylor’s defenders would have fared as well playing straight man or in that zone? Could they keep all that size out there if they did?

Not sure that is the question though, what Baylor can do is different than what Nebraska can. If you aren’t long and athletic then a pressure zone defense isn’t as effective. Mintz, Thomas , Foster, Alexander and Ballack just drive to the middle of the zone or shoot over it. 6’2” guards like Palmer and Watson don’t pressure like Baylor’s guards and wings do.

 

[newAD]

Not sure that is the question though, what Baylor can do is different than what Nebraska can. If you aren’t long and athletic then a pressure zone defense isn’t as effective. Mintz, Thomas , Foster, Alexander and Ballack just drive to the middle of the zone or shoot over it. 6’2” guards like Palmer and Watson don’t pressure like Baylor’s guards and wings do.

From what I saw Baylor do, once they adjusted their zone and didn’t double RH they were able to practically take the lane and inside game away. This forced them to take “predictable” 3s vs “flow” 3s. They don’t shoot those 3s as well when the inside-outside isn’t working. That’s the only way I see Nebraska beating CU this year or in the near future.

I don’t believe Nebraska can run Baylor’s zone exclusively, but I do think we have the bodies to show it at times this year (yes Watson is undersized).

If Nebraska can make them take forced 3s on 10-12 possessions, maybe CU doesn’t go off like they have.

Tonight Miles tried man, 2-3, and 1-3-1. I don’t see any of those slowing CU down this season, especially in Omaha. Of course the way Nebraska played offensively tonight I really don’t think Nebraska can do anything to hold CUs score down low enough for Nebraska to outscore them. CU is a better defensive team than people give them credit for.

 

[TwinsRRUs]

If Miles ever wants to beat Creighton

he needs to take over for Duke when Coach K retires...

play Creighton in the first year while all of Coach K's players are still there...

keep all of Coach K's assistants....