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After being at the game, and then rewatching it...this is exactly like the Miami game, except with us being on the other side of it. Miami got bored and allowed us back in the game, and we got bored and allowed Southern Miss back in the game.

We had just scored near the end of the 3rd quarter and were up by 29-7 (just 1 point less than Miami's 23 point lead). Throw in a couple turnovers, an onside kick, a BS PI call or two, and a team that we are much better than looks liked they belonged.

I could sense it while at the game. The crowd was dead, just chatting amongst themselves, and I'm sure the team felt very little emotion too. They were just finishing out the game.

I'm not dismissing the poor defensive performance, but consider that they had shut them out for 2 1/2 quarters. Teams lose motivation when they are up big. It happens. We are just fortunate enough that we turned it back on enough to win the game.

I agree, except we didn't have our starting and then back up free safety ejected in the second half....kind of an important (crucial) position in Miami's defense. The Miami comeback gives me hope, but I also gives me pause. Was a bit of smoke and mirrors for the reason noted? We shall see as things roll along
 
That Oregon State team is not winning close to 11 games without Ken Simonton. McElwain will do fine at UF...but just goes to show hiring a head coach is not an exact science. NU could have went for a young coordinator again like Scott Frost but that would have proved to be just as risky as hiring Riley. Doubtful that NU was going to be hiring anyone away on the BCS level with a great record.

Yeah, I don't know about Scott Frost...Herman the OC from Ohio State would have been a terrific hire. Chad Morris, Jeff Brohm, Bronco Mendenhall, Gary Andersen, Dan Mullen (think he wants to get the hell out of Starkville as soon as possible) and Mark Hupspeth would have been the top of my list.

In my opinion...all the coaches listed above are better than Riley and Nebraska could have landed any of them..except maybe Bronco..he might not have wanted to leave BYU.
 
"Riley was not able to build/sustain any kind of success in his entire career." - Nebraska Gator II...... He didn't build anything at Oregon State? RollingLaughRollingLaughRollingLaughRollingLaughRollingLaugh

What is so funny? He was there 14 years...had 6 losing seasons. 93-80 record. Losing season 3 of the past 5 years. Explained to me what is funny about the statement that he was not able to build/sustain any kind of success at Oregon State. Record speaks for itself.
 
Coaching hires are a crapshoot like everything else. I mean, who knew Will Muschamp would bomb like he did in Florida? Some great hire that turned out to be.

I think Muschamp is a jinx to offenses. Look how bad Aubbie's offense has looked since he showed up.
 
What is so funny? He was there 14 years...had 6 losing seasons. 93-80 record. Losing season 3 of the past 5 years. Explained to me what is funny about the statement that he was not able to build/sustain any kind of success at Oregon State. Record speaks for itself.

At a football program that had 26 straight losing seasons before he got there, I'm sure all Beaver fans are glad Riley built that program into something that was relevant again.
 
At a football program that had 26 straight losing seasons before he got there, I'm sure all Beaver fans are glad Riley built that program into something that was relevant again.

So does that mean they had 28 straight losing seasons after his first stint there?...and then AFTER Erickson proved that a winner could be built there he came back to coach. Still waiting to hear how he built/sustained the program...
 
Yeah, it's Will's fault. Smokin

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If you haven't seen the movie "the cooler" you won't get the reference. Muschamp is the offense "cooler"
 
So does that mean they had 28 straight losing seasons after his first stint there?...and then AFTER Erickson proved that a winner could be built there he came back to coach. Still waiting to hear how he built/sustained the program...

Read huskerbaseball's statement again...."I also laugh how people continue to point out Erickson ignoring the fact that he was left with some pretty good talent after Riley's first run." "That Oregon State team is not winning close to 11 games without Ken Simonton"
 
Read huskerbaseball's statement again...."I also laugh how people continue to point out Erickson ignoring the fact that he was left with some pretty good talent after Riley's first run." "That Oregon State team is not winning close to 11 games without Ken Simonton"

I respect his opinion...but he was an okay running back. Stop trying to ride the jock of Erickson, who was a proven winner until 2007. Is that the best you can do to support your coach.. for what someone else is able to do with a few players he recruited? Congrats...you hired Ron Zook--only Riley is no where close to the recruiter Zook was.
 
You lost me at Ron Zook..... but keep bashing Riley if that makes you feel better on the Husker boards. IMO he was a good hire and I can't wait to see what he can do with the resources of this program.

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Yeah, I don't know about Scott Frost...Herman the OC from Ohio State would have been a terrific hire. Chad Morris, Jeff Brohm, Bronco Mendenhall, Gary Andersen, Dan Mullen (think he wants to get the hell out of Starkville as soon as possible) and Mark Hupspeth would have been the top of my list.

In my opinion...all the coaches listed above are better than Riley and Nebraska could have landed any of them..except maybe Bronco..he might not have wanted to leave BYU.


Herman is killing it at Houston. He would have been a great hire I think.
 
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I respect his opinion...but he was an okay running back. Stop trying to ride the jock of Erickson, who was a proven winner until 2007. Is that the best you can do to support your coach.. for what someone else is able to do with a few players he recruited? Congrats...you hired Ron Zook--only Riley is no where close to the recruiter Zook was.

Simonton ran for nearly 1600 yards that year with 19 TD's. All Pac 12, All American....he was more than an "okay" running back. He has the third most rushing yards ALL TIME in the Pac conference and the most rushing TD's all time. As I pointed out....he was the main reason behind Erickson's success that year. "Okay" RB...Laughing

More knowledgeable folks than you hold Riley in much higher regards as he was consistently ranked as one of the best coaches in the Pac conference. Let's see what he can do now that he has the resources to succeed on a consistent basis.
 
Simonton ran for nearly 1600 yards that year with 19 TD's. All Pac 12, All American....he was more than an "okay" running back. He has the third most rushing yards ALL TIME in the Pac conference and the most rushing TD's all time. As I pointed out....he was the main reason behind Erickson's success that year. "Okay" RB...Laughing

More knowledgeable folks than you hold Riley in much higher regards as he was consistently ranked as one of the best coaches in the Pac conference. Let's see what he can do now that he has the resources to succeed on a consistent basis.

Those are nice numbers..but if he was so great, why was he undrafted in the NFL? Running back is the easiest position to transition into the NFL, yet he basically has no NFL career to speak of..

So yes, he was an okay running back.
 
Those are nice numbers..but if he was so great, why was he undrafted in the NFL? Running back is the easiest position to transition into the NFL, yet he basically has no NFL career to speak of..

So yes, he was an okay running back.

Holy crap....so "proof is in the pudding" when it comes to records...but we should just throw actual stats out the wayside? Tommie Frazier is arguably the best QB to ever play college football and most agree even if healthy he probably would not have been drafted. Simonton was not drafted due to his size...but who F'N cares...look at the stats he put up at Oregon State which is what really matters concerning Riley/Erikson and Oregon State. He put up nearly 1600 yards and 20 touchdowns that year! Let's face it..you didn't know WTF you were talking about in regards to Simonton and now it's coming back to bite you. #17 rushing leader in NCAA history...but yeah, Since Riley recruited him...he must suck. Derpy Derp
 
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After being at the game, and then rewatching it...this is exactly like the Miami game, except with us being on the other side of it. Miami got bored and allowed us back in the game, and we got bored and allowed Southern Miss back in the game.

We had just scored near the end of the 3rd quarter and were up by 29-7 (just 1 point less than Miami's 23 point lead). Throw in a couple turnovers, an onside kick, a BS PI call or two, and a team that we are much better than looks liked they belonged.

I could sense it while at the game. The crowd was dead, just chatting amongst themselves, and I'm sure the team felt very little emotion too. They were just finishing out the game.

I'm not dismissing the poor defensive performance, but consider that they had shut them out for 2 1/2 quarters. Teams lose motivation when they are up big. It happens. We are just fortunate enough that we turned it back on enough to win the game.
I agree. Our DB's grew tired of having no passes to defend in the first half, so they walked over to the opponents locker room at half and pleaded with them to begin throwing the ball in the 2nd half. They obliged. Winking
 
Holy crap....so "proof is in the pudding" when it comes to records...but we should just throw actual stats out the wayside? Tommie Frazier is arguably the best QB to ever play college football and didn't sniff the NFL. Simonton was not drafted due to his size...but who F'N cares...look at the stats he put up at Oregon State which is what really matters concerning Riley/Erikson and Oregon State. He put up nearly 1600 yards and 20 touchdowns that year! Let's face it..you didn't know WTF you were talking about in regards to Simonton and now it's coming back to bite you. #17 rushing leader in NCAA history...but yeah, Since Riley recruited him...he must suck. Derpy Derp

I sure seem to know the facts about Simonton...and said he was an okay running back. As I said RB is the easiest position to transition to in the NFL...if he was as great as you say--he would have had an NFL career. Size doesn't matter...Warrick Dunn was tiny and had an NFL career and I can think of plenty of others.

I agree T Frazier was one of the best to ever play college QB, but it is apples and oranges. Option QB's were not a fit to play in the NFL.

I never said he sucked...I said he was "okay".
 
I sure seem to know the facts about Simonton...and said he was an okay running back. As I said RB is the easiest position to transition to in the NFL...if he was as great as you say--he would have had an NFL career. Size doesn't matter...Warrick Dunn was tiny and had an NFL career and I can think of plenty of others.

I agree T Frazier was one of the best to ever play college QB, but it is apples and oranges. Option QB's were not a fit to play in the NFL.

I never said he sucked...I said he was "okay".

Warrick Dunn was not a running back....go look at his pro's and con's and let me know what Simonton's cons were. NFL teams did not like him because of his size. Either way...HE PUT UP ALL AMERICAN STATS THAT YEAR. Okay RB, Great RB...he was their offense and put up near 1600 yards and 19 TD's. And who recruited him? I'll keep dealing with facts...fact remains...Simonton ran for over 5K yards in his career. Top 15 All time in rushing TD's....Top 20 All time in rushing yards. Good luck arguing that. Everybody here would take that production and wouldn't give a damn if that player played a down in the NFL.
 
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What planet do you live on where you don't think Warrick Dunn was a running back? Are you confusing Peter Warrick with Warrick Dunn?

By the way... Dunn was 5'9 and weighed 187 lbs... Simonton-who you claim the only reason he wasn't in the NFL was because of his size...was 5'7 201 lbs. You know who was about the same size as Simonton--Barry Sanders 5'8 200 lbs...wait, was he too small to play in the NFL too? Weird. Simonton has more rushing yards in college...does that mean he was better than Barry?

Guess maybe if he was as good as you claim he is...maybe he could have caught on in the NFL? As I say, he was an "okay" running back. Maybe sooner or later it will occur to you that he happened to be the best player on the team and that is why they featured him and he put up pretty good numbers. Doesn't change the fact that he was just an "okay" running back.
 
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I agree, except we didn't have our starting and then back up free safety ejected in the second half....kind of an important (crucial) position in Miami's defense. The Miami comeback gives me hope, but I also gives me pause. Was a bit of smoke and mirrors for the reason noted? We shall see as things roll along

Usually it's because teams start playing a looser zone too. Not necessarily prevent, but definitely less press coverage.
 
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