Huskers down by 18 at half...
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Why in the world would Illinois hire Miles???
I'm not in the fire Miles camp, but I've been critical of his offense for quite some time. Even during the teams' best run under Miles a few years back, how often did Petteway have to shoot a long three with the shot clock running out? They just don't get much out of that offense. How many feeds to the low post do we see in a game? Two? Three? Anyone care to see an off the ball screen of any sort?
I was also thinking about the lack of post players the other day. Miles signs Tshimanga. Great pick up. But that makes one post player. How about a 2nd or even a third? I've always admired the programs that had three post players in their system. One veteran, one backup, and one redshirt. Wisconsin, KU, Texas all used to be that way. Two posts would be OK too. How about having Jordy playing against another big in practice and then backing him up his first year? That would be a wonderful situation for that kid.
The talent is just not there. All the talk about the "young" players and "talented players" and "just wait" does tend to lose some punch the further you get into the season and still see the same results. Look around the league and see the underclass men other teams are winning with and you have to start asking questions and drawing conclusions. If we have the talent why are we not winning...at least having winning seasons...which seems to be enough for many to be happy campers? If we don't have the talent who is responsible for getting the talent? Personally, I just don't see the talent on the floor able to compete in this league. What I see is a talent level similar to what you see in the Missouri Valley and other lesser leagues. We can always "wait till next year" but what have we seen in 5 years that makes us think this staff can utilize that talent to win in this league? I'm not saying fire Miles for the sake of change...but if there is someone out there at the end of the season that is better at in-game coaching and recruiting then maybe it is time for a change. Tough call to have to make but it's SE's call to make.
We get it, you are fine with having a highly paid sub 500 Coach. "Wait til next year", the Battle-Cry of the Mediocre. Wish it didn't bother me if I settled for Mediocre.
Mediocre? What a joke to claim that's my stance on something.
From day one I've said six years and I'm not gonna waver because some hack on a message board thinks he knows what people think. Either Miles gets the team to the dance next year or he's gone, no other option.
You don't get to choose, or recreate, my stance on Miles no matter how hard you try to be cute and funny. You're not.
Yeah but wait until next year
Do you know tim in Omaha?.... asking for Tom, in Tulsa
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the BIG basically come out and say that BIG teams are too "prestigious" or whatever, to play in anything but the Dance or NIT last year? Or was that just coming from the campus in Lincoln?
I could see the conference brass feeling that way about every team but Nebraska. This program is NOT above playing in ANY post season tournament.
Wow, someone has a real angry side, reminds me of how the Bobots responded when posters were calling for a coaching change in football. Actually you remind me quite a bit of Tim, just with a new handle.
Call me a hack all you want but when it comes to basketball I have to question your knowledge of the sport. I admit I don't know the ins and outs of football but I grew up in a serious basketball family and Miles does not impress me as a good coach. I do not like our player development, roster management or in game coaching. Doesn't take me 6 years to see that this team is not fundamentally sound and our offense does not work for our personnel. And it is not just my opinion, a few people in my family who are far more qualified to comment on basketball than you and I agree on my stance on Miles. Actually they point out concerns with our team every time they watch a Husker game. I appreciate their breakdowns of the game but the mistakes are concerning. Real eye opener when you watch a game with someone who has been involved with the game of basketball on a much higher level.
Wait til next year
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MSU rounding into March shape like normal...they looked good last night. It happens...we need to take care of the Illini this weekend. Mich has been a thorn in our side...I believe they are the only Big 10 school we have yet to beat on the hard-court. That's a game we SHOULD win at home. Find a way to win those two to give ourselves a chance come tourney time.
Knew this game would be difficult to win and it will be no different in Minneapolis...
Izzo wasn't going to lose again to Nebrska at home they plan just out hustled and out shot us...
Beat Illinois and Michigan at home and Nebraska can avoid playing on Wednesday.
Won't be much difference being the 7-8-9-10 seed playing on Thursday.
is this angry troll Tim or Tom? Too many similarities. Simple question what is your basketball background? Time to put up or shut up oh wise one. I have no problem admitting that I have never played college basketball or coached hoops but I have family members who have and that is who I listen to. Can't wait to see where you get your hoops knowledge from or are you one of those people who is just "smarter" than everyone else? I originally learned the game from my dad who played for Creighton and was invited to the USA Olympic Trials. Current main influences who I am sure you consider "Dumber" than you or "Hacks" are:
-my brother who worked in college hoops for years including many years for Roy Williams and has been offered jobs in the NBA as a scout by the Indiana Pacers and Portland Trailblazers
-my nephew who played Power 5 Conference Hoops
-my cousin who played for a Top 25 team and also played professionally for many years
Watching games with them really has taught me quite a bit
Bottom line is none of them are overly impressed with the quality of Miles coaching when it comes to fundamentals with the players or in game management. Lots of Basketball 101 mistakes, like Jordy/Jacobsen getting the ball next to the hoop and instead of going straight up they take 1 dribble. Or at the end of games Miles not putting token pressure on the ball to reduce the clock, like against Ohio St where we were up by 1 pt with about 9 seconds left after scoring. OSU took the ball out under our hoop and we did not apply any token pressure to slow down OSU who was trying to get across half court to call a time out. Everyone knew they wanted to call a TO on their side of the court so they could run a set play off of the TO from the offensive side of the court. Token pressure would have slowed them down a couple seconds instead of letting them sprint up the court. So instead of having 7 seconds they would have had 4-5 seconds which probably would not have allowed them enough time for a rebound shot if they missed plus limits the set plays they can run. 2-3 seconds at the end of the game is a big deal, and can win or lose you games. He also did the same thing in another game, I think it might have been Purdue.
It's sad that McDermott is paid roughly $1,000,000 less per year but for less money Creighton gets a superior coach with a .681 winning percentage plus only 1 losing season in 7 years at CU to go along with 3 NCAA Tournament victories. While we have a superiorly paid $3,000,000+/yr Tim Miles who has only a .481 winning percentage at NU after 5 yrs plus only 1 winning season out of the 5. Point of reference Doc Sadler had a .532 winning percentage in 6 years at Nebraska and only 2 losing seasons. Yup Doc Sadler running laps around Tim's W/L percentage and I think that we can all agree that Doc had so much less talent to work with.
I will hang up and listen as all I expect from you is a smart-ass comment defending the recurring battle cry of the scared and mediocre "wait til next year".
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We made a huge mistake not trying to hire Dana Altman in 2000 or 2006. It is very frustrating watching a guy from Wilber, NE, transform Oregon quickly into one of the best programs in the country. Altman is one of the best basketball minds in the game and has a great eye for talent, too.
oregon is really impressive to watch. dana is a better coach now than he was 10 years ago though. he used to always start stalling when creighton was up 5 or 7 with a few minutes left and would blow games that way. now he just lets em keep playing. he's obv very good with getting his teams to play hard and for each other, which in college, is half the battle. I know our roster is much more talented than it was 5 or 10 years ago, but there's still a long way to go between us and a bottom tier top 25 team like Creighton is (both teams have now lost their best player (AW3 and Watson).
Well if we only had the hindsight back then before he Coach Creighton because at K-State he had a 19-37 conference record despite making a NCAA tournament appearance....
I wish we would have hired him too at some point but his conference record in the Big 8 didn't show signs of being a successful Coach here until he left Creighton.
I call 'em as I see 'em. Much like boilerb's blabber, I have zero interest in reading your lengthy and I'm sure worthless replies.
Hall of fame coach Tom Izzo:
Izzo had this to say about Miles, who took Nebraska to the NCAA Tournament in 2014 but hasn’t been to the postseason since:
“Tim has done a great job there,” Izzo said. “I know exactly what he’s going through. He’s been good enough. He’s won some big games. And yet he, too, like us, is having trouble being consistent. I don’t know how that game got so out of hand. It was a close game. They were playing well. And then I think three 3s in a row, and all of a sudden, it was out of hand.
“I felt fortunate to win it. I thought we played good enough at times. And yet I like what he’s done with his team. He’s got some good young players, and that’s going to be a very, very good team in the — hopefully this future, but in the near future.”
Izzo had this to say about Miles, who took Nebraska to the NCAA Tournament in 2014 but hasn’t been to the postseason since:
“Tim has done a great job there,” Izzo said. “I know exactly what he’s going through. He’s been good enough. He’s won some big games. And yet he, too, like us, is having trouble being consistent. I don’t know how that game got so out of hand. It was a close game. They were playing well. And then I think three 3s in a row, and all of a sudden, it was out of hand.
“I felt fortunate to win it. I thought we played good enough at times. And yet I like what he’s done with his team. He’s got some good young players, and that’s going to be a very, very good team in the — hopefully this future, but in the near future.”
With each response, you continue to show you dumb you are so I'm gonna help you.
It has nothing to do with "wait till next year" and everything to do with "from the beginning I said I'd give him 6 years and I'm not going against it". I said 6 years last year, I said it after the NCAA tournament team, I said it the following year. And I'm sticking with it, I'm giving the guy 6 years regardless.
So go ahead, continue to show everyone how dumb you really are.
Those are lots of words for someone like you to read. But I am sure you being such a "settler" you are happy with a coach who is "good enough" cuz you made up your mind 6 years ago that you had to wait 6 years to formulate an opinion about his coaching abilities. God forbid you are open minded and not afraid of change. 6 Minute Abs, thats crazy
Tom Izzo, a HALL OF FAME coach > donk on HuskerOnline
Ho-Lee-Sheet man, I now feel bad, you're beyond dumb.
That plane ride he gave Izzo a few years ago is still paying off I see...
It's Huskers Hoops folks...same as it always was. I gotta see it to believe it, and our inconsistency has been our only consistency under Miles. I'd love to see them be average-good year in and out (and a less than .500 record is NOT average btw). Here's to better days (and imo Miles should get one more year...but only because nobody better than him is coming here anytime soon).
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It's Huskers Hoops folks...same as it always was. I gotta see it to believe it, and our inconsistency has been our only consistency under Miles. I'd love to see them be average-good year in and out (and a less than .500 record is NOT average btw). Here's to better days (and imo Miles should get one more year...but only because nobody better than him is coming here anytime soon).
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"wait til next year". Bring something to the table to show us you know more than just how to cut and paste a quote from a coach who whooped our coach last night. Do you really think that any of the B1G coaches want Nebraska to hire a basketball coach that isn't Mediocre? They don't want the competition. Great facilities and fans who just need a better coach. I bet you can quote lots of coaches who defended Pelini too but I am sure you decided Day 1 to give him 7 years before you were able to formulate a decision on his coaching abilities. Snow Flake don't be afraid of change or changing your opinion.
I love internet trolls/bullies. This has to be Tulsa Tom. Dumbass, dumber, hack, donk.......quite an array of insults when someone disagrees with your opinion.
Why can't you bring any substance to a conversation without the name calling? Unlike yourself I am not happy with the return Nebraska is getting for the $3,00,000+/yr we are paying Tim Miles. I gave my reasons. Do you have any reasons? Or just insults to anyone who disagrees with you?
True, but you have to remember that Dana was only 32 years old when he took over at K-State and had very little D-I coaching experience. Most coaches don't get to lead a major-conference team until their 40s if they're lucky. Of course he was going to be pretty green, going up against some very good experienced Big 8 coaches. Yet he still made an NCAA tournament appearance and was named Big 8 Coach of the Year in his 3rd year there. He beat Kansas a few times including once when they were ranked #1 nationally.
By the time we fired Nee, Dana was coming off of 2 consecutive NCAA appearances at Creighton, including a win over Louisville in the 1999 tourney. By the time Collier left, he had taken Creighton to 3 more NCAA tournaments and sent a couple guys to the NBA. I'm not sure he would have come here in 2006 because of the late timing of Collier's departure, but then again he did briefly leave for Arkansas after the next season, so who knows. The timing just never worked out to try to bring Dana here, which is a shame because his Oregon teams have been incredibly fun to watch and put a lot of points on the board. Seeing them destroy Arizona by 30 a few weeks ago was something else.
AW3 transferring with Mich St interested says absolutely NOTHING about the relationship of Izzo and Miles. A swing and a whiff on that one...funny I struck a chord on that plane ride comment.
I'm still optimistic that in my lifetime NE men's hoops will win a NCAA tourney game
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I'm still optimistic that in my lifetime NE men's hoops will win a NCAA tourney game
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Dumb, dumber, dumbest, all in one.
Ya, they're such good friends Izzo will stick it in Miles' ass by taking his best player as a transfer.
You'll have to throw a pitch for someone to miss and it's not the pitch you're use to throwing. Loosen up the chastity belt and try again.
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I can only assume this is Tulsa Tom and have to ask are you going to bring anything besides insults to people who disagree with your opinion to this conversation?Dumb, dumber, dumbest, all in one.
Ya, they're such good friends Izzo will stick it in Miles' ass but taking his best player as a transfer.
You'll have to throw a pitch for someone to miss and it's not the pitch you're use to throwing. Loosen up the chastity belt and try again.
Solid post HC. One thing though, Altman earning the B8 coach of the year means what? It's not a guarantee he would have success in Lincoln, although I wish the opportunity was there for him to try. Remember, Tim Miles was national coach of the year in 2014, which is a much higher honor than B8 COY and here we are....
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