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HUSKER football died the minute Solich took over --

WE NEED CHANGES AND WE NEED THEM NOW

  • WE NEED TO FIRE ALL PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR RILEY HIRING

    Votes: 12 14.1%

  • WE NEED TO FIRE AD AND RILEY

    Votes: 18 21.2%

  • WE NEED TO FIRE RILEY

    Votes: 4 4.7%

  • WE NEED A RED WEDDING AND THEY ALL NEED TO BE FIRED -- CLEAN HOUSE FIRE THEM ALL AND THE CHANCELLOR

    Votes: 9 10.6%

  • WE NEED TO BE PATIENT AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE BEING GOOD LOSERS AND WE SHOULNT ROCK THE BOAT

    Votes: 20 23.5%

  • THIS VOTE OFFENDS ME AS I THINK RILEY AND THEY AD ARE GREAAAAAT

    Votes: 30 35.3%
  • Total voters
    85
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Todays game was another moral victory -- great losing effort -- ra ra -- the school needs new leadership and the fans demand real talent, not nice guys. GBR forever -- I will go down with the ship F IT

HUSKER football died the minute Solich took over and the Board let him!! Beyond that the boards hires and adjustments and timing and leadership has been horrific considering who has been available over the 20 year drought they have led us into FOR 20 YEARS !! these academics need to go -- we need an elway, type AD and we need him now !!

Yes i was at the 2001 national championship -- we had no business being there -- last real team we had was in 1997 w frost as QB

WE NEED CHANGES AT THE TOP -- WHOEVER BROUGHT IN RILEY NEEDS TO BE FIRED -- WHOEVER APPROvED HIM NEEDS TO BE FIRED -- IM ASKING RILEY TO RESIGN and to RESCIND HIS CONTRACT.


HEADS NEED TO ROLLL -- LET RILEY FINISH THE SEASON START SEARCHING NOW FOR NEW AD AND NEW HEAD COACH AND NEW CHANCELLOR BOARD OR WHATEVER THEY CALL THEMSELVES


PLEASE DON'T BOTHER SPELLCHECKING OR GRAMMAR __ IDGAF


DOES ANYONE ELSE EVEN CARE ANYMORE


GBR
 
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Give Riley time. I'm mad as hell we lost but continually hitting the reset button isn't going to make thing better any sooner. We are recruiting well, we just have to trust we are on the general uptrend as a program. Even if the year to year results don't correlate
 
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elvis1403 said:
Todays game was another moral victory -- great losing effort -- ra ra -- the school needs new leadership and the fans demand real talent, not nice guys. GBR forever -- I will go down with the ship F IT

HUSKER football died the minute Solich took over and the Board let him!! Beyond that the boards hires and adjustments and timing and leadership has been horrific considering who has been available over the 20 year drought they have led us into FOR 20 YEARS !! these academics need to go -- we need an elway, type AD and we need him now !!

Yes i was at the 2001 national championship -- we had no business being there -- last real team we had was in 1997 w frost as QB

WE NEED CHANGES AT THE TOP -- WHOEVER BROUGHT IN RILEY NEEDS TO BE FIRED -- WHOEVER APPROvED HIM NEEDS TO BE FIRED -- IM ASKING RILEY TO RESIGN and to RESCIND HIS CONTRACT.


HEADS NEED TO ROLLL -- LET RILEY FINISH THE SEASON START SEARCHING NOW FOR NEW AD AND NEW HEAD COACH AND NEW CHANCELLOR BOARD OR WHATEVER THEY CALL THEMSELVES


PLEASE DON'T BOTHER SPELLCHECKING OR GRAMMAR __ IDGAF


DOES ANYONE ELSE EVEN CARE ANYMORE


GBR
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Husker football died the day Solich was fired.
 
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shine003 said:
Give Riley time. I'm mad as hell we lost but continually hitting the reset button isn't going to make thing better any sooner. We are recruiting well, we just have to trust we are on the general uptrend as a program. Even if the year to year results don't correlate
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I would agree if Mike Riley wasn't almost 65 years old. I'd be surprised if he has more than 2-3 years left in him. So we will be hitting the reset button soon regardless. It's not like he's a young guy learning how to be a head coach and building for a long future.
 
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shine003 said:
Give Riley time. I'm mad as hell we lost but continually hitting the reset button isn't going to make thing better any sooner. We are recruiting well, we just have to trust we are on the general uptrend as a program. Even if the year to year results don't correlate
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I don't always agree with your posts but 100% agree with this.

This current group of high school seniors, approximately 1/2 were alive the last time Nebraska won a conference championship. Meaning they were newborns.

Kids alive now have never seen Nebraska be a true national power. If you were a teenager or adult in the glory days and are calling for Riley's firing, you are an idiot. This is not Nebraska of the 60s, 70s, 80s, or 90s, and College football is not the same game as it was in the 60s, 70s, 80s, or 90s.

All this fire Riley talk is just F'ing stupid. I fear Nebraska's future relevancy is directly tied to Riley to getting Nebraska back to at least being ranked consistently. Fire him now, it's panic move, it'd be seen as a panic move, and it'd probably mean I'll never see Nebraska be relevant again in my lifetime.

Oregon has more speed, and more depth. They underachieved last year, and frankly I thought we'd lose by 28 points before the game started.
 
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ru4nu2win said:
Wrong: we we're on the verge of turning the corner when solich finally fired his old cronies and started with the new staff. Then Steve (@$$hole) Peterson came and destroyed all of once was a proud, dominant program that has yet to recover.
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It was possible, the recruiting was still a step behind. Also, although they won 10 games in 2003, they played a fairly easy schedule.

Hard to say what would have happened, I wanted at least one more year with that group.
 
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Well, Ucla, Michigan, Stanford, Texas, Texas A&M, Notre Dame all have won or shared a combined total of how many National titles (AP, UPI, BCS,CFP) since 1957? Total of Eight amongst all of them. All these teams have had years/decades between NC's, just like Nebraska. Hell, Michigan hasn't won it since they and Nebraska shared it twenty years ago. They might all be better than Nebraska right now, but they sure don't win the coveted prize very often. Take Notre Dame out of the group, and they lose 4 titles.

Maybe Nebraska gets back to 10-2/11-1 type teams someday, but it probably won't be this year. Maybe Mike Riley is just the catalyst for a few more years that gets the Huskers back in the right direction so a new and better coach can come in and take them to the next level. We shall see.
 
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Wrong: we we're on the verge of turning the corner when solich finally fired his old cronies and started with the new staff. Then Steve (@$$hole) Peterson came and destroyed all of once was a proud, dominant program that has yet to recover.
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Losing Dan Young, Milt, and Charlie McBride didn't help on either side, after 2000 the slide began.
 
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Bugeater said:
Well, Ucla, Michigan, Stanford, Texas, Texas A&M, Notre Dame all have won or shared a combined total of how many National titles (AP, UPI, BCS,CFP) since 1957? Total of Eight amongst all of them. All these teams have had years/decades between NC's, just like Nebraska. Hell, Michigan hasn't won it since they and Nebraska shared it twenty years ago. They might all be better than Nebraska right now, but they sure don't win the coveted prize very often. Take Notre Dame out of the group, and they lose 4 titles.

Maybe Nebraska gets back to 10-2/11-1 type teams someday, but it probably won't be this year. Maybe Mike Riley is just the catalyst for a few more years that gets the Huskers back in the right direction so a new and better coach can come in and take them to the next level. We shall see.
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Forget National Championships, I just want another conference championship. It's been almost 20 years. How many blue-blood programs have survived a 20-year conference title drought?
 
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Harry Caray said:
Forget National Championships, I just want another conference championship. It's been almost 20 years. How many blue-blood programs have survived a 20-year conference title drought?
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After both winning their conference titles in 1997, both Nebraska and Michigan have won OUTRIGHT conference titles just once. Long drought for sure, just hope someday a (Nebraska) coach can turn it around again and win those conference titles.
 
ru4nu2win said:
Wrong: we we're on the verge of turning the corner when solich finally fired his old cronies and started with the new staff. Then Steve (@$$hole) Peterson came and destroyed all of once was a proud, dominant program that has yet to recover.
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I disagree. If you look at that last season Solich was there, his record definitely improved but if you look at the strength of the competition he played in the big 12 that year, it was a weak year. He would have been exposed again the following year. There is no argument as to how badly his recruiting tapered off from the success he inherited. Pedersen did the right thing, he just screwed up the hiring process and hired the wrong person.
 
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Championship Husker football died the minute Tom Osborne retired. Those were pretty special years and if you haven't noticed, it will be VERY difficult to ever replace anything like that again.

That doesn't mean Husker football died. It's alive and well---it just looks like this now. Now come down off the ledge. GBR.
 
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Bugeater said:
After both winning their conference titles in 1997, both Nebraska and Michigan have won OUTRIGHT conference titles just once. Long drought for sure, just hope someday a (Nebraska) coach can turn it around again and win those conference titles.
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Let's dig up Devaney!!! He's rested long enough! ;)
 
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meanmachine said:
Sorry, When Steve Pederson fired Solich and than hired Callahan that is when Nebraska football died. He didn't care about anything but himself and how he looked.
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Nebraska football is greater than SP. FS. BC. BP. MR. You might even say it's greater than Tom. Bob Devaney was brought here when Nebraska football was worse off than we are now. The forces at play back then were determined to bring a great coach home.

Before Bob and all of the other old time coaches... you had the fans. The fans showed up and paid to watch. The fans helped pay for Memorial Stadium.

The point I am making is that a single coach or two, etc doesn't kill a program. It's the support of its fans and will to achieve. The belief that our team should reach a certain level. That's what separates us from the Minnesotas, Princetons, and Purdues.
 
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Charlie McBride and Eric Crouch made Solich look competent for a few years. After they left, Solich was exposed. The reality was that Solich was not even in the same galaxy as Osborne in terms of coaching brilliance. It was like Oregon going from Chip Kelly to Mark Helfrich - going from a genius to someone who rode the genius' coattails.
 
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Harry Caray said:
Charlie McBride and Eric Crouch made Solich look competent for a few years. After they left, Solich was exposed. The reality was that Solich was not even in the same galaxy as Osborne in terms of coaching brilliance. It was like Oregon going from Chip Kelly to Mark Helfrich - going from a genius to someone who rode the genius' coattails.
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Frank's problem was he just couldn't get the recruiting wagon rolling. When there was talent there, he coached them up pretty well. Too bad for him he didn't have some dynamic recruiters after 1999. At least the program under him didn't nose dive to sub .500 depths. Nobody thought Osborne was a real genius for the 70's after Devaney left.

When Switzer left, it opened the door for Nebraska to be the Big Dog in the Big 8, but Osborne still had bad moments from 1989-1992. Some so bad that he was almost fired. You should at least give Solich some credit, he certainly was better than Cally or Bo, and he was a helluva assistant coach under Osborne. Very few coaches were in the same galaxy as Dr. Tom.
 
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It was slowly dying on Solich's watch.
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Solich should have got another year. Even though he was born in Ohio, he was a Nebraska guy. He helped build the program in his playing days up to being Osborne's right hand man until he got the head job. The guy embodied what Nebraska football use to be about. The guy lived and breathed Nebraska football. We kept everything in the family. We were different than just about any other program out there. We believed in recruiting to a system that was different than what most were running. It centered around development and physical football. We use to laugh at teams which we are essentially now. We are a soft pro style team with no edge. A lot of Nebraska fans are getting what they deserve for the Solich firing. A fair share of Nebraska fans are delusional. Osborne would have even been fired back in the day if it weren't for Devaney. We struck lighting with two great coaches in a row, and Solich was a solid coach, but he wasn't good enough for a lot of Nebraska fans, and here we are today making changes every so many years. We will likely be making another change in the next two years.
 
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Solich should have got another year. Even though he was born in Ohio, he was a Nebraska guy. He helped build the program in his playing days up to being Osborne's right hand man until he got the head job. The guy embodied what Nebraska football use to be about. The guy lived and breathed Nebraska football. We kept everything in the family. We were different than just about any other program out there. We believed in recruiting to a system that was different than what most were running. It centered around development and physical football. We use to laugh at teams which we are essentially now. We are a soft pro style team with no edge. A lot of Nebraska fans are getting what they deserve for the Solich firing. A fair share of Nebraska fans are delusional. Osborne would have even been fired back in the day if it weren't for Devaney. We struck lighting with two great coaches in a row, and Solich was a solid coach, but he wasn't good enough for a lot of Nebraska fans, and here we are today making changes every so many years. We will likely be making another change in the next two years.
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This^^^_
 
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I can't forget what Pederson said when he fired Solich...we won't allow the program to gravitate to mediocrity.

Well, on NU's best day, they are mediocre. The NU football team has become the NU basketball team.
 
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elvis1403 said:
Todays game was another moral victory -- great losing effort -- ra ra -- the school needs new leadership and the fans demand real talent, not nice guys. GBR forever -- I will go down with the ship F IT

HUSKER football died the minute Solich took over and the Board let him!! Beyond that the boards hires and adjustments and timing and leadership has been horrific considering who has been available over the 20 year drought they have led us into FOR 20 YEARS !! these academics need to go -- we need an elway, type AD and we need him now !!

Yes i was at the 2001 national championship -- we had no business being there -- last real team we had was in 1997 w frost as QB

WE NEED CHANGES AT THE TOP -- WHOEVER BROUGHT IN RILEY NEEDS TO BE FIRED -- WHOEVER APPROvED HIM NEEDS TO BE FIRED -- IM ASKING RILEY TO RESIGN and to RESCIND HIS CONTRACT.


HEADS NEED TO ROLLL -- LET RILEY FINISH THE SEASON START SEARCHING NOW FOR NEW AD AND NEW HEAD COACH AND NEW CHANCELLOR BOARD OR WHATEVER THEY CALL THEMSELVES


PLEASE DON'T BOTHER SPELLCHECKING OR GRAMMAR __ IDGAF


DOES ANYONE ELSE EVEN CARE ANYMORE


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Youre wrong. It did not die with frank solich.
Im not saying that frank solich was some super coach. But this is wrong. It died with pederson, period.
 
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I can't forget what Pederson said when he fired Solich...we won't allow the program to gravitate to mediocrity.

Well, on NU's best day, they are mediocre. The NU football team has become the NU basketball team.
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He called out Texas and Oklahoma and said we wouldn't surrender the Conference to them. It correlates to what Eichorst said about Iowa. Pedey ate his words and Eichorst is in the process.
 
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shine003 said:
Give Riley time. I'm mad as hell we lost but continually hitting the reset button isn't going to make thing better any sooner. We are recruiting well, we just have to trust we are on the general uptrend as a program. Even if the year to year results don't correlate
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Might want to check the real results on recruiting .. not the class ranking after LOI but rather who made it to campus and then actually on to the field


Also note that we haven't filled the available allotment of scholarships in our classes


Also where are we at this year
 
Bugeater said:
Frank's problem was he just couldn't get the recruiting wagon rolling. When there was talent there, he coached them up pretty well. Too bad for him he didn't have some dynamic recruiters after 1999. At least the program under him didn't nose dive to sub .500 depths. Nobody thought Osborne was a real genius for the 70's after Devaney left.

When Switzer left, it opened the door for Nebraska to be the Big Dog in the Big 8, but Osborne still had bad moments from 1989-1992. Some so bad that he was almost fired. You should at least give Solich some credit, he certainly was better than Cally or Bo, and he was a helluva assistant coach under Osborne. Very few coaches were in the same galaxy as Dr. Tom.
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Frank had top ten recruiting classes in three of his six years...two of them after '99.
 
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Frank had top ten recruiting classes in three of his six years...two of them after '99.
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Nebraska had a ranking of 17 in 2000, 39 in 2001, 35 in 2002, 35 in 2003, all composite rankings from 247 Sports.

In 1998 or 1999, Neither Wallace or Lemming had Nebraska in their top ten classes. Kind of shoots down your top ten in three of his six year stuff. Had he had top ten classes every year, he might have stayed longer, recruiting was his downfall.
 
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