Hunter Sallis

[Redmich]

So are you going to cry about it for the next year and a half? You might as well get used to it, Trev isn’t paying that buyout. As @dinglefritz pointed out, they’re probably is not enough boosters that care about basketball to step up. I don’t know how many times I have to post this link, before some of you get it. UNL doesn’t make money hand over first like some of you think, if you click this link you will find out that in the ‘21-‘22 year UNL’s athletics revenue was $143 million and their expenses totaled $131 million.

School athletic revenues

Are you going to use your remaining revenue to fire a coach? Because my guess is the boosters stepped up to pay off Frost and they aren’t going to step up and pay off Fred in the same year.

Agree .. Trev doesn’t give a crap about the basketball program or it’s players and/or isn’t effective enough in his role to get the boosters engaged for the betterment of the program

Given your post - boosters don’t care and the AD isn’t willing to spend - why in the world would any player with any kind of options commit - the current portal players can’t get away fast enough if we somehow con them into taking a visit

 

[dinglefritz]

SDSU and Florida Atlantic made the Final Four less than 5 weeks ago.

good coaches win. shit coaches don't. the end.

Those guys are paying players too. That said No doubt some of it is relationships assistants and the head coach has with AAU handlers and high school coaches. Fred IMO is a really good guy but I don’t get the impression that he’s as outgoing as some. That’s where I’m hoping his new assistants can help him. The best case scenario financially for NU is for him to be successful. Me whining on a message board does nothing to further that cause.

It’s going to be interesting to see how long SDSU and FAU can keep their coaches and if they can be successful again next year.

 

[Husker Todd]

add this to the already long list of things trev definitely cares about more than overseeing a successful basketball program:

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Come on Kong, why would Trev shit on the Volleyball Program? I know it’s popular for insecure men to hate women’s sports, but volleyball isn’t taking anything from your precious men’s sports, UNL’s Volleyball Program is one of only a handful of programs that is self sustaining. They are in the black every year. He’s not going to ignore a program that has had 50 All-American athletes (1st NCAA), 98 All-American Awards (1st NCAA), 49 First Team All-Americans (2nd NCAA), 34 conference titles, and 5 National Titles(3rd NCAA). All of that is in 48 years of existence.

Basketball by comparison, in 127 years of existence. 8 All-Americans(last in 1978), 7 conference titles (last one in the 50’s), and 0 National Titles, in fact no tournament wins. I would have done a comparison of the records in the tournaments, but that would be unfair because basketball has a .000 winning percentage, volleyball has something in the .700 - .750 winning percentage range.

 

[king_kong_]

Come on Kong, why would Trev shit on the Volleyball Program? I know it’s popular for insecure men to hate women’s sports, but volleyball isn’t taking anything from your precious men’s sports, UNL’s Volleyball Program is one of only a handful of programs that is self sustaining. They are in the black every year. He’s not going to ignore a program that has had 50 All-American athletes (1st NCAA), 98 All-American Awards (1st NCAA), 49 First Team All-Americans (2nd NCAA), 34 conference titles, and 5 National Titles(3rd NCAA). All of that is in 48 years of existence.

Basketball by comparison, in 127 years of existence. 8 All-Americans(last in 1978), 7 conference titles (last one in the 50’s), and 0 National Titles, in fact no tournament wins. I would have done a comparison of the records in the tournaments, but that would be unfair because basketball has a .000 winning percentage, volleyball has something in the .700 - .750 winning percentage range.

the upside of putting together a competitive basketball program far outweighs having the absolute best volleyball program exponentially. obviously.

I'm not asking him to shit on any of our programs (would be easy to argue him retaining fred is shitting on the hoops program). I'm simply asking him not to be derelict in his duty.

 

[king_kong_]

Those guys are paying players too. That said No doubt some of it is relationships assistants and the head coach has with AAU handlers and high school coaches. Fred IMO is a really good guy but I don’t get the impression that he’s as outgoing as some. That’s where I’m hoping his new assistants can help him. The best case scenario financially for NU is for him to be successful. Me whining on a message board does nothing to further that cause.

It’s going to be interesting to see how long SDSU and FAU can keep their coaches and if they can be successful again next year.

unless fred is planning to pay back the past 4 years' worth of sunk cost, it would take an unprecedented run of success coupled with him turning down raises/extensions for his employment even break even financially.

a losing bird in the hand is not worth 2 potential non-losers in the bush. sorry. opportunity cost is being flushed every day he stays.

 

[Husker Todd]

the upside of putting together a competitive basketball program far outweighs having the absolute best volleyball program exponentially. obviously.

I'm not asking him to shit on any of our programs (would be easy to argue him retaining fred is shitting on the hoops program). I'm simply asking him not to be derelict in his duty.

You might like to think so, but Trev is not derelict in his duties. What would you have him do, blow what little remaining revenue the U has on a buyout? I’m telling you the boosters paid off Scott last fall, they are not going to step up right now and pay off Fred. I encourage you to go click the link on University sports revenues in my post, it was the post right after your Trev post. It has data going back to ‘16-‘17. look at all the years up to the current ‘21-‘22. It remains pretty consistently $11-$13 million difference between UNL’s revenues to their expenses. The only outlier is ‘20-‘21, UNL finished that cycle $12 million in the red and you have to factor that into our current situation because they have to make up for that.

 

[king_kong_]

You might like to think so, but Trev is not derelict in his duties. What would you have him do, blow what little remaining revenue the U has on a buyout? I’m telling you the boosters paid off Scott last fall, they are not going to step up right now and pay off Fred. I encourage you to go click the link on University sports revenues in my post, it was the post right after your Trev post. It has data going back to ‘16-‘17. look at all the years up to the current ‘21-‘22. It remains pretty consistently $11-$13 million difference between UNL’s revenues to their expenses. The only outlier is ‘20-‘21, UNL finished that cycle $12 million in the red and you have to factor that into our current situation because they have to make up for that.

we have $71M in media dollars coming this year

and another $71M next year

and the year after that

and the year after that

and so on

spare me the 'what little remaining revenue' BS. this isn't a family-owned convenience store.

 

[PvilleHuskerTim]

Both sides of the argument can be correct at the same time. It isn’t always an either/or situation. RedMich & Kong are correct that Hoiberg has not been successful in his tenure (to put it mildly). HuskerTodd & Dingle are correct in there is not always a finite amount of dollars allocated to the BB program.

Seems Trev is mostly focused on getting the FB program back to where it needs to be, which is what 99% of the fan base wants and what needs to happen. Waiting 1 more year to assess whether Hoiberg has figured things out isn’t the end of the world in the long-term scheme of things (I personally think Trev discounts Hoiberg’s first few years under the prior AD, who did nothing to help the situation – but new staff made incremental improvement). Unfortunately, I think everyone’s gut feeling is there won’t be enough progress next year and Hoiberg will get fired so just go ahead and get rid of him now (or should have been done after the season).

FWIW, I just wish our two mommies and daddies didn’t have to argue all the time.

 

[Redmich]

we have $71M in media dollars coming this year

and another $71M next year

and the year after that

and the year after that

and so on

spare me the 'what little remaining revenue' BS. this isn't a family-owned convenience store.

Trev knows the yokels will fill up PBA to witness a shitty product because you never know when you might have a month where you win more games than you lose .. and that feeble hope is good enough for most Husker fans

It’s a lazy cheap business persons (or ADs) dream - produce a crappy product that you couldn’t care less about coupled with consumers who don't care about quality and will pay top dollar for your crappy product

 

[Redmich]

the upside of putting together a competitive basketball program far outweighs having the absolute best volleyball program exponentially. obviously.

I'm not asking him to shit on any of our programs (would be easy to argue him retaining fred is shitting on the hoops program). I'm simply asking him not to be derelict in his duty.

If those 82k who bought tickets to a volleyball game would fork over 50 dollars that would be 1+ years of the BB buyout - 100 dollars and the buyout is paid

Maybe someone can do Trevs job and pass the hat around at that event

 

[Husker Todd]

If those 82k who bought tickets to a volleyball game would fork over 50 dollars that would be 1+ years of the BB buyout - 100 dollars and the buyout is paid

Maybe someone can do Trevs job and pass the hat around at that event

 

[king_kong_]

Those guys are paying players too. That said No doubt some of it is relationships assistants and the head coach has with AAU handlers and high school coaches. Fred IMO is a really good guy but I don’t get the impression that he’s as outgoing as some. That’s where I’m hoping his new assistants can help him. The best case scenario financially for NU is for him to be successful. Me whining on a message board does nothing to further that cause.

It’s going to be interesting to see how long SDSU and FAU can keep their coaches and if they can be successful again next year.

SDSU’s coach will retire there. He’s a lifer and his story is/was pretty awesome.

FAU’s signed an extension but will be somewhere of consequence (either by reputation or his own doing) before long. Would absolutely LOVE to have him here to start the ‘24 season.

 

[stucknks]

Apparently he would prefer to play some .500 basketball at Wake Forest instead.

Yep. Wake forest ain't shit. Never been shit. Never will be shit

 

[Tetonia]

So are you going to cry about it for the next year and a half? You might as well get used to it, Trev isn’t paying that buyout. As @dinglefritz pointed out, they’re probably is not enough boosters that care about basketball to step up. I don’t know how many times I have to post this link, before some of you get it. UNL doesn’t make money hand over first like some of you think, if you click this link you will find out that in the ‘21-‘22 year UNL’s athletics revenue was $143 million and their expenses totaled $131 million.

School athletic revenues

Are you going to use your remaining revenue to fire a coach? Because my guess is the boosters stepped up to pay off Frost and they aren’t going to step up and pay off Fred in the same year.

This is a great link. Shows where we rank in terms of spending… we’re in the bottom half of the Big10…

 

[Big bo fan]

Both sides of the argument can be correct at the same time. It isn’t always an either/or situation. RedMich & Kong are correct that Hoiberg has not been successful in his tenure (to put it mildly). HuskerTodd & Dingle are correct in there is not always a finite amount of dollars allocated to the BB program.

Seems Trev is mostly focused on getting the FB program back to where it needs to be, which is what 99% of the fan base wants and what needs to happen. Waiting 1 more year to assess whether Hoiberg has figured things out isn’t the end of the world in the long-term scheme of things (I personally think Trev discounts Hoiberg’s first few years under the prior AD, who did nothing to help the situation – but new staff made incremental improvement). Unfortunately, I think everyone’s gut feeling is there won’t be enough progress next year and Hoiberg will get fired so just go ahead and get rid of him now (or should have been done after the season).

FWIW, I just wish our two mommies and daddies didn’t have to argue all the time.

There is no AD in the country that is going to run a coaching search for the two biggest revenue sports at his university in the same year..

 

[huskerfan1414]

Nebraska basketball is a lost cause.

 

[dinglefritz]

Nebraska basketball is a lost cause.

The goal seems to be to win just enough to keep butts in the seats…….kinda like most NFL teams …..

 

[WHCSC]

The goal seems to be to win just enough to keep butts in the seats…….kinda like most NFL teams …..

Sounds like a reasonable business decision

 

[TampaBaySkers]

Apparently he would prefer to play some .500 basketball at Wake Forest instead.

Yuck… maybe it’s changed over the past decade, but Winston-Salem was a dump

 

[big red22]

The good news is, any replacement will be better than Fred.

I am pretty sure this is a inaccurate opinion