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MR says rules have changed thus reducing the number of walk-ons and curious how so.

Stai had been the latest to explain this. When he was he helping Garrison with the OL he wasn't allowed to actually coach. Which means NU couldn't run as many stations as the old days.

No sense in bringing the roster up to 180 kids if you can only coach the number you have now
 
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Stai had been the latest to explain this. When he was he helping Garrison with the OL he wasn't allowed to actually coach. Which means NU couldn't run as many stations as the old days.

No sense in bringing the roster up to 180 kids if you can only coach the number you have now
The focus on this right now is completely asinine. I think maybe Riley had better things to do yesterday than to get nagged by a guy who has not been around college football operations in DECADES. I wonder if "# 50" even knows it's a short week?
 
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If you can get a quality kid to walk-on, great. They have a lot more options now and college is expensive. You can't take a bunch just to take them. Have to be selective.
 
If you can get a quality kid to walk-on, great. They have a lot more options now and college is expensive. You can't take a bunch just to take them. Have to be selective.
We need 200 of them. Can we have volunteer coaches run them every day on a separate field? Like "walk-on" coaches who are not payed? I am sure Cable Guy would coach the Offense (flexbone) and Jason Peter would coach the defense. God I get so excited at the thought.... in 2 years time those walk-on kids would beat the entire B1G by 50 points a game.
 
We need 200 of them. Can we have volunteer coaches run them every day on a separate field? Like "walk-on" coaches who are not payed? I am sure Cable Guy would coach the Offense (flexbone) and Jason Peter would coach the defense. God I get so excited at the thought.... in 2 years time those walk-on kids would beat the entire B1G by 50 points a game.
I 100% love your posts! So sarcastic yet so funny.

The best is when other posters actually get caught up in it.
 
The focus on this right now is completely asinine. I think maybe Riley had better things to do yesterday than to get nagged by a guy who has not been around college football operations in DECADES. I wonder if "# 50" even knows it's a short week?
Do you really think DR "nagged" Riley about the walk on program? My understanding of their one hour lunch meeting was a general discussion of a multitude of thngs which DR probably needed to catch up on. That's fine. The walk on thing as usual is getting blown way out of proportion. I listened to Riley yesterday and didn't get the sense than it was much more than a get to know each other a little bit kind of meeting.
 
Do you really think DR "nagged" Riley about the walk on program? My understanding of their one hour lunch meeting was a general discussion of a multitude of thngs which DR probably needed to catch up on. That's fine. The walk on thing as usual is getting blown way out of proportion. I listened to Riley yesterday and didn't get the sense than it was much more than a get to know each other a little bit kind of meeting.
They probably talked about it for like 3 minutes...
 
Do you really think DR "nagged" Riley about the walk on program? My understanding of their one hour lunch meeting was a general discussion of a multitude of thngs which DR probably needed to catch up on. That's fine. The walk on thing as usual is getting blown way out of proportion. I listened to Riley yesterday and didn't get the sense than it was much more than a get to know each other a little bit kind of meeting.
Well, considering that the walk on program was one of Rimington's main talking points in his introductory press conference and that the only thing that was reported to have come out of the meeting between Riley and Rimington was that Rimington made sure that he stressed the importance of the walk on program to Riley and the fact that Riley had to defend his use of the walk on program to him, tells me it must be pretty important to someone.
 
My opinion is that kids that would have walked on at one time are now going to Ohio, South Dakota State, Northern Iowa, etc. Also if Nebraska was good, more of them might give us a look, but in the last 10-15 years or so that they have probably paid attention to football Nebraska hasn't amounted to much.
 
Well, considering that the walk on program was one of Rimington's main talking points in his introductory press conference and that the only thing that was reported to have come out of the meeting between Riley and Rimington was that Rimington made sure that he stressed the importance of the walk on program to Riley and the fact that Riley had to defend his use of the walk on program to him, tells me it must be pretty important to someone.

It's in the press to ease peoples concerns. It's a catch-phrase that a large portion of the fan base needs to hear.
 
They probably talked about it for like 3 minutes...

The other 57 minutes was spent on the need to run an option based attack - with a particular emphasis on running it into the short side of the field. Also more fullback trap and a 5-2 base defense.

The walk on discussion wasn't a topic per se - but came up when the topic of whether we really need to be allocating scholarships for WRs was addressed
 
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Wisconsin may have the top walk-on program now. Here are their numbers.

19 walkons have played in the NFL since 1990
Last year nine starters were former walk-ons
Their 2015 team had three walk-ons make NFL teams
Former starting rb Ogunbawale had over 2000 yards and was a walk-on
Former starting quarterback Joel Stave had over 7600 yards passing and was a walk-on
Their best receiver this year, Fumagalli, was a walk on
 
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Just looking at walk on numbers is short sighted. How many of those Wisconsin walk on players had scholarship offers to other schools. Considering the state of Wisconsin is full of DIII schools, that don't offer athletic scholarships, I wouldn't be surprised to find out most of those Wisconsin walk ons were looking at paying for school no matter where they went. So if I was paying for school and forced to choose between playing at Whitewater or Madison, the decision is easy.

Again too much is put on the winning. I can promise you cost and/ or quality of education are much more important and bigger driving factors to the average player whose options are limited to walking on at state U, playing football at a FCS school or playing local DIII.
 
A major reason for the decline is the cost of tuition. It is much higher than it was in the 90s. This also helped the rise of the other area schools, like SDSU and NDSU. Some of the kids that used to walk on here are now choosing to play for those schools instead because they get better financial assistance.
 
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Just looking at walk on numbers is short sighted. How many of those Wisconsin walk on players had scholarship offers to other schools. Considering the state of Wisconsin is full of DIII schools, that don't offer athletic scholarships, I wouldn't be surprised to find out most of those Wisconsin walk ons were looking at paying for school no matter where they went. So if I was paying for school and forced to choose between playing at Whitewater or Madison, the decision is easy.

Again too much is put on the winning. I can promise you cost and/ or quality of education are much more important and bigger driving factors to the average player whose options are limited to walking on at state U, playing football at a FCS school or playing local DIII.
I agree that walk-on numbers can be short sighted. Nebraska does as well as Wisconsin at getting numbers. However, Wisconsin has shown that they have a development program for walk-ons. Their expectation across coaches going back to Alvarez is that the walk-on program be upheld and used to the advantage of the football team and the walk-ons themselves. The development of these players is something they take pride in, they celebrate when walk-ons making the starting roster, and they push the narrative of walk-on importance in articles like the one mentioned above.

We used to be like that.

P.S. It's not the complete answer to our problems by any stretch. But even in an era of limited resources (# of coaches, limited practice time, money, etc.) it still can be a valuable program to teams like Wisconsin and Nebraska.
 
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Well, considering that the walk on program was one of Rimington's main talking points in his introductory press conference and that the only thing that was reported to have come out of the meeting between Riley and Rimington was that Rimington made sure that he stressed the importance of the walk on program to Riley and the fact that Riley had to defend his use of the walk on program to him, tells me it must be pretty important to someone.

This. It reeks of being out of touch.
 
I agree that walk-on numbers can be short sighted. Nebraska does as well as Wisconsin at getting numbers. However, Wisconsin has shown that they have a development program for walk-ons. Their expectation across coaches going back to Alvarez is that the walk-on program be upheld and used to the advantage of the football team and the walk-ons themselves. The development of these players is something they take pride in, they celebrate when walk-ons making the starting roster, and they push the narrative of walk-on importance in articles like the one mentioned above.

We used to be like that.

P.S. It's not the complete answer to our problems by any stretch. But even in an era of limited resources (# of coaches, limited practice time, money, etc.) it still can be a valuable program to teams like Wisconsin and Nebraska.


You sound as out of touch as Rimington

https://www.cornnation.com/2017/8/2...l-scholarship-awarded-walk-on-practice-report

http://www.omaha.com/huskers/footba...cle_a028293a-ddbd-11e6-ac5f-8bcdd4232c4f.html

http://journalstar.com/sports/huske...cle_49a18df6-aaf0-588e-ab56-4a3f392e4b91.html

http://journalstar.com/sports/huske...cle_0a358fd1-2533-540a-8c55-6595e9ac797b.html

http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...a-cornhuskers-walk-ons-carry-sam-foltz-legacy

Just a smattering of Nebraska walk-on news and success stories.
 
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It's in the press to ease peoples concerns. It's a catch-phrase that a large portion of the fan base needs to hear.


Ease people's concerns? How many people were worried about the walk-on program? I don't think I've seen that as a topic of worry on any message board or newspaper article in years.
 
We are talking about success of the walk-on program at Wisconsin. See how their program compares to ours and, in addition, see the pride they have in their program compared to ours. We on this board bemoan the fact that we have walk-ons playing and getting scholarships, and haven't seen it's value enough to talk about in years.
 
We are talking about success of the walk-on program at Wisconsin. See how their program compares to ours and, in addition, see the pride they have in their program compared to ours. We on this board bemoan the fact that we have walk-ons playing and getting scholarships, and haven't seen it's value enough to talk about in years.


What do idiots on message boards have to do with anything? I would call having quite a few walk-ons/former walk-ons starting or being significant contributors as being a successful walk-on program. Seems to be plenty of pride in promoting those walk-ons in the articles I posted.
 
Ease people's concerns? How many people were worried about the walk-on program? I don't think I've seen that as a topic of worry on any message board or newspaper article in years.

What I meant was that it is something that out-of-touch, tradition coalition types need to hear to know everything's all right.
 
The focus on this right now is completely asinine. I think maybe Riley had better things to do yesterday than to get nagged by a guy who has not been around college football operations in DECADES. I wonder if "# 50" even knows it's a short week?

I agree with you in the meaning, the tone is a little harsh but I agree with the point. I am a life long Husker fan and was raised in Nebraska, went to high school here and graduated college in Nebraska. Saying all that the walk on program is about number 38 in the list of things that need to be fixed in regards to Husker football.

This is just me speaking but if I had a son who had a choice between walking on at Nebraska or having a full ride scholarship to a D2 program I would encourage my kid to take the scholarship. Reason being cost of education today and having a kid walk out of college either having no debt or 40 grand of debt. This is just me and if someone chooses the walk on route that doesnt make them right or wrong just different. We need to fix the most important items first and work our way down.

I like Dave R. Never met the man nor do I know if he is qualified or not to be AD but I do believe he wants the best for Nebraska. Thats a great place to start. I want the best AD and Head Coach we can get at Nebraska. I don't care if they have ties to Nebraska or not. Just because its failed 2 out of the last 3 times doesn't mean it will fail next time. Remember Pederson, Solich and Bo had Nebraska ties and they were both fired as well.
 
It's in the press to ease peoples concerns. It's a catch-phrase that a large portion of the fan base needs to hear.

It's also a catch phrase used to undermine any coach at Nebraska that a certain individual didn't want leading the program.
 
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