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How Best Change Out Coaches and Not Miss Recruiting Year?

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Is there a way to in essence have recruiting happen in Lincoln during this year be guided by the new guy?

I think it would involve having key members of this staff sign on via creative approach.

More Riley to and emeritus position now with the objective of him supporting the transition. In spirit and to provide support to our current players and recruits towards a successful transition.

We have to start thinking outside the box.

Riley might be really good in a role like that. He could keep our current coaches from developing bad attitudes. Maybe allow us to keep the coaches that are the best recruiters fully effective during the transition.

Would be a way for him to phase out/transition in a positive manner.

I could see him staying in touch with Frost starting soon and continuing with the program next year. Just spitballing here. But it could work. I don’t think it would work if he was trying to finish out this year as head coach though.
 
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Is there a way to in essence have recruiting happen in Lincoln during this year be guided by the new guy?

I think it would involve having key members of this staff sign on via creative approach.

More Riley to and emeritus position now with the objective of him supporting the transition. In spirit and to provide support to our current players and recruits towards a successful transition.

We have to start thinking outside the box.

Riley might be really good in a role like that. He could keep our current coaches from developing bad attitudes. Maybe allow us to keep the coaches that are the best recruiters fully effective during the transition.
I've already posted this idea a few times.
Hopefully we can get at least 6 wins and a bowl and Riley can retire with dignity to the administrative office if he so chooses to accept a job.
This would be for the best.
 
But do it now and get Frost involved now at a 50,000 foot level now with no public knowledge.

At a minimum get Mike on board that this is his last year but he is head recruiter for next years class a sell the new guys on the opportunity. Give him a great accomplishment (next years class) and keep him engaged beyond this year.
 
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Is there a way to in essence have recruiting happen in Lincoln during this year be guided by the new guy?

I think it would involve having key members of this staff sign on via creative approach.

More Riley to and emeritus position now with the objective of him supporting the transition. In spirit and to provide support to our current players and recruits towards a successful transition.

We have to start thinking outside the box.

Riley might be really good in a role like that. He could keep our current coaches from developing bad attitudes. Maybe allow us to keep the coaches that are the best recruiters fully effective during the transition.

Would be a way for him to phase out/transition in a positive manner.

I could see him staying in touch with Frost starting soon and continuing with the program next year. Just spitballing here. But it could work. I don’t think it would work if he was trying to finish out this year as head coach though.

So if Nebraska is willing to pay the entire or vast majority of Mike's buyout, I don't see why this couldn't happen. Mike Riley seems like a good egg, and if he's getting his severance, why not?

All he would be doing is "handing off" the keys. Simple.

And no, you don't want him around in any role after the fact. He's gonzo. Back to bike riding and smiling on the WC, where he should have been put out to pasture.

Just goes to show why SE was shown the door, with his last decision extending Smilin Mike's contact a year, and costing the school more $$$. Idiot
 
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no no and no. The one way to screw up any new coach is tying his hands with the last guy. Let him take his money and run. Call it a retirement or whatever so he goes with dignity. But go is the key word. If this season goes the direction it is headed its unlikely that most of those recruits are going to stay on unless we get a dynamic new coach. They will not stay because MR is the head recruiter.

The key to this year is get someone in early. If MR has a season that will require his departure this could be known by early November. Get the new guy announced then. Still gives him a couple of months.
 
Can we really get someone else who has a job in early? Still believe this staff can help us avoid losing a recruiting year. Let Mike announce his retirement. He doesn’t seem like he would want to leave scorched earth behind. Firing type transitions are bad for recruiting. We might have an unrecognized opportunity here.

Mike can possibly hold on to our best recruits and Scott can bring the best guys that he has been recruiting for his system.
 
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I think people are overplaying the "lost" recruiting class mantra. We'll probably get a couple guys before the end of the season, and we lose a few recruits at most if Riley's gone. If Riley is canned in November, the new coach potentially gets a month to recruit before the early signing date and a month after. That's plenty of time to bring in about 8 quality players that the new coach likely already has a connection with. There's going to be some guys who are interested and are talented but we passed on because they don't fit our system but they could fit the next coach's system. The 2015 class was a transition class and it was a decent recruiting class. This class will be decent no matter what happens.
 
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1. Take the Ohio State whipping like grownups.
2. Have Rimington play "bad cop" and oust Riley a week from today.
3. Name Diaco interim coach.
4. Hire AD by November 1.
5. Bring in new coach after Iowa game.
6. If Diaco can find three wins, take the bowl trip and kick the living shit out of Texas.
7. Recruit some great assistant coaches and teachers.
8. Finish or replenish the recruiting class.

2018 will be a good time to bring in a new coach.
  • Much like Callahan and Bill Jennings before him, Riley has been a table setter, if not that great of a coach. We have some talent. It's just young.
  • This year's team is starting way too many underclassmen, and that will change starting next year. The new coach will inherit an experienced squad, along with a few potential all-conference players, something that has been few and far between, especially by Nebraska's historical standards.
  • The recruiting class likely to be small no matter what, so if it stays in the 15-17 range, it's not a huge ordeal for the new coach to put together a representative transition class. If attrition allows that number to grow, then the new coach has even more leeway to bring in his type of players. Win-win.
That written, GO BIG RED! BEAT OHIO STATE!
 
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I've already posted this idea a few times.
Hopefully we can get at least 6 wins and a bowl and Riley can retire with dignity to the administrative office if he so chooses to accept a job.
This would be for the best.
Riley isn't going to retire. He wants his money. It would be smart for the new coach to keep a couple of Riley's guys for the short term. The receiver and db coach would probably be the two worth keeping.
 
All the recruits are basically tied to Parella, Williams and Williams. I'm sure a new coach would strongly consider keeping them.
 
Riley isn't going to retire. He wants his money. It would be smart for the new coach to keep a couple of Riley's guys for the short term. The receiver and db coach would probably be the two worth keeping.
what if he fires cav and langs one more year?
 
Riley isn't going to retire. He wants his money. It would be smart for the new coach to keep a couple of Riley's guys for the short term. The receiver and db coach would probably be the two worth keeping.

I think the "retire" word is designed to minimize the embarrassment but in all reality he would be fired and still get his buyout.
 
I think the "retire" word is designed to minimize the embarrassment but in all reality he would be fired and still get his buyout.

I think the University Administration really respects Mike Riley as a human being and what he represents. It is unfortunate that it hasn’t worked out. It would be in everyone’s best interest for it to end with as little fanfare as possible and move on to the next chapter in Nebraska Football...if/when that’s what is ultimately decided.
 
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People, Frost will want guys to sign that fit the system he would run. Just because Riley sees a guy to sign doesn't mean Frost will even want him. We don't have any flash players that would fit the Frost system in this class. We have some guys at WR that Frost would likely want to keep though.

I don't see Frost keeping Wideouts. Sorry, I just don't. He has the former Colorado WR coach on his staff that Riley was also looking at hiring.

This is the QB commit that Frost has out of MI: https://www.hudl.com/profile/3716831/ladarius-jefferson

I would expect some of his commits to follow him to Nebraska.
 
recruiting is useless until you find an identity.. one year you are spread.. now you are pro.. 3/4 D.. 4/3 D.. It's not accident that many of your top recruits under perform, it's a shaky situation. Meyer and Franklin have specific traits and systems, and they recruit for those parameters.

Nebraska is horrible at bringing in the right kids for what they wanna do, partially cuz they don't know who they are or what they want. You get talent, but it always fizzles b/c your team is just floating in the ether out there.

What was Pelini?? I couldn't tell what the hell he wanted to be. And Riley, he was bad at Oregon State other than bringing in some JC sludge that would get hot until they burned the house down. Solich was the last coach who actually recruited for a specific system...

I see posts all day long.. you could give Riley and all-star team and he would pretend he was coaching the 92 Chargers in a college game full of RPO's and 9 man fronts.

The other problem.. you guys keep getting sold, many of the guys you get from Cali and Texas are guys that the majors don't want.. you simply will never beat UT, USC, and A&M consistently for major players, the same way that they won't be feasting on kids from Omaha. I remember you guys were stoked when you landed Marlon Lucky, not knowing that many wouldn't touch the kid due to "issues". I remember when you recruited a kid who I cut tape on.. a 4* WR.. I knew the kid didn't have the concentration level to play WR at this level.

Until you find an identity it will be more of the same.
 
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Even if Frost would eventually do well as a HC at a Power 5 school — unlike the last sure winner Gill— who knows if he would have a top notch group of assistants any year soon. As much as Callahan was detested, lots of people believe he would have been successful if he had more competent assistants, especially his DC. Osborne inherited a strong staff and that was likely a huge factor in the program continuing at a high level when Devaney moved into the AD chair.
 
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