Look at what Riley has been able to do with Tommy in under one year. Now picture that team wide with some recruiting classes.
Here is why we should be concerned
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Look at what Riley has been able to do with Tommy in under one year. Now picture that team wide with some recruiting classes.
Ya, two years after Riley left for the pros. Wonder who recruited those players to OSU? Hmmmm.
So what? Dennis E, a proven winner, came in and did something that Riley was never able to do during all his years at OSU.
Is your point simply that Riley recruited the players that Dennis E coached to a BCS bowl victory? How does that at all reflect upon MR's coaching ability?
You know what really concerns me? The mental health state of guys like you that day after day, come on here and tear something down. Your negativity since day ONE on this hire has been overwhelming and apparently you have nothing better to do than to try to tear down the program that you supposedly are a fan of. Your sole purpose seems to convince everybody that your are right, that Riley was a terrible hire and that he and Banker have no chance of success. Please go find some other purpose in life
You know what you are absolutely right and I posted this same exact sentiment to other people on this board over the last couple of years when the Pelini status was still up in the air
I do not like and did not like the hire that is 100% correct - I am ok with Riley but not ok with Banker and Read. Over the years I have been a fairly positive guy on this board always trying to look for the silver lining - This hire flipped me to be sure - and I agree continual bashing of them on this board is not good for anyone.
I think I will just take a break from things, not as excited about the games anymore really as I view it as watching a train wreck in progress
Good point signing off
Yeah........was thinking the same thing in terms of weather and woman. Oregon is definitely NOT West Texas. You got that right.so i've heard
Not sure if this is the stat you want to highlight.
I decided to take a look at Oregon State in 2000, and the Pac 10 (Pac 12 didn't exist yet) as a conference. There were three teams in the entire conference with a winning record. THREE.
Oregon State beat Oregon and Lost to Washington. They went 1-1 against teams with a winning record in conference. If you're trying to convince us that what Erickson did in 2000 was nothing short of amazing, you're gonna have to try harder.
I think riley fits Nebraska well from what I have seen thus far. It's not like byu and miami are horrid teams, or we got torched by them. and riley saved a lot of the recruiting class on short notice, got armstrong to throw better, found out we had a monster full back. doesn't act crazy. and givin time hopefully will do a better job recruiting then bo. he's seemed to do well with the hand he's been delt thus far.
I was going to post similar but got lazy and decided I didn't want to dig in to it all. I know Washington and Oregon were pretty good then but the conference as a whole was lacking. Riley had a pretty good conference to play against so I think that should be taken in to consideration when comparing the two. Cal had some good years, USC was a juggernaut, Oregon as well and Stanford was a team they weren't going to compete with consistently. I'd say the Pac was better when Riley was there than it was when Erickson was.
Have you ever been to Pullman? No way is it easier to recruit to Washington State than Oregon State. Pullman is the middle of a hilly wheatfield. Corvallis is pretty nice. If WSU wasn't there Pullman would have 5000 residents ( or less). Hey, I was very critical of hiring Riley. His 29-33 record over the last 5 years at Corvallis and losing to Sac State and Eastern Washington were key factors. He is our coach now so let us give him a chance. It far too early to predict how he will progress in Lincoln. The offense looks pretty good and Tommy is playing great. Too many Blackshirts hurt to give them a fair evaluations. That doesn't give the coaching staff a pass on some bad coaching. The last minutes of the BYU game weren't great and the first quarter and a half at Miami the Huskers definitely weren't ready.
I've lived in Eugene Oregon for 15 years. We go to the coast at least once a month and during the summer, we stay for literally weeks at a time. This includes the Newport area, which is a direct shot west from Corvallis. I've NEVER EVER seen anyone that resembled a football player hanging out on the beaches, ever. I've come to believe that the Oregon Coast is not part of the appeal for Oregon college teams. There is no direct correlation between Oregon coasts and say Southern California beaches.
It would be way cheaper to fly directly into Eugene than Corvallis and if you fly into Portland, it only takes 25 minutes more to get to Eugene (Corvallis is 15 minutes west of I-5). Additionally, U of Oregon is LIGHT YEARS ahead of Oregon State in terms of football facility infrastructure, not to mention all their silly apparel. It's not even close. Have you seen pictures of the Beaver's locker room? It's not appealing at all. The football budget for OSU is at the bottom of the PAC 12.
I'm 45 and will stop into Corvallis for good Indian food, of all things. There are some cool hippy shops in Corvallis and it's also a nice place to raise a family, but it's a very SMALL town, having a population of about 55,000. Lincoln NE is over 260,000. Eugene is about 160,000. Corvallis is a nice place for a lot of reasons, but it's not appealing to college kids being pulled in from football rich, densely populated areas on the West Coast, Texas, south eastern state, etc. It's a tough sale period.
100% true. My wife is an OSU Grad, and I lived in Salem for a few years and your analysis is spot on. I've been to a couple OSU games in my time up there and it is night and day difference between a schools where football is king and Corvallis. Great people but I felt like I was at a high school game.
What is more is that guys like him set out each and every day to ruin the solid reputation of Nebraska Fans as being knowledgeable. His posting for a number of years has been anything but.
Some of you are truly funny. I'm sure that Dennis E's OSU team only won the Pac and creamed ND in a BCS bowl simply because he was lucky enough to coach in the Pac when the conference was weak.
It's too bad that Riley had to go to the NFL for the three years the Pac was down.
Jimmy Johnson was just a bridesmaid at Okie State but look what happened when he went to MIami!
I wonder why those three schools (USC, Oregon and Stanford), after years of obscurity, became juggernauts while OSU didn't?
Hint: Think top tier coaches of the past decade.
The level of denial displayed by some never ceases to amaze.
Harbaugh was 4-8 with a 23-6 loss to Oregon st. in his first year at Stanford.
Those three schools have more going for them in terms of football than Oregon State has. They didn't exactly hire sure shot coaches. USC fans didn't seem to like the Pete Carroll hire, Oregon didn't have a big name coach and Stanford took Harbaugh from San Diego where he did well but not quite the fbs level. All three of those schools are in a better position than Oregon State when it comes to football support.
Don't be an idiot. Studed was hyping erickson's record in 2000, and I simply responded by pointing out that the conference was atrocious that year. 1-1 against teams with a winning record in conference. They only faced 2 teams that year with a winning record, up until the bowl game. When is the last time that can be said about a team that went 11-1?
Maybe it is more common than I realize, but I don't think so. Only 3 out of 12 teams with a winning record. It's no surprise that they had a respectable season. But don't make it out to be this amazing feat where they beat 6 ranked opponents or something like that. This doesn't make Erickson a bad coach by any means, but according to your logic here BYU was in fact the best team in all of college football in 1984 when they won the national championship by beating one ranked team.
Considering that if you go back and look at all the years Tom Osborne coached...most of the time there were only 3-4 teams in conference with a winning record--is that the only reason he had respectable seasons? I guess I won't make what TO did as a coach out to be an amazing feat anymore. I don't think it makes TO a bad coach, but I certainly am not going to use the logic that BYU was the best team in 84.
I am confused. You didn't play Utah. That is your selling point for Banker is that you didn't get destroyed by a team you didn't play?
Oregon's defense must really suck. They should fire their defensive coordinator immediately. Nebraska got beat by a hail mary and an overtime loss. Keep it in perspective please.
Nice to conveniently ignore the nonconference games. Most seasons Osborne coached the non conference included teams with winning records, many of them ranked. The patsies didn't become prevalent until late in osborne's coaching career. You will see their nonconference schedule littered with Florida state, penn state, ucla, Alabama even...
Having said that, your point is noted. But I will say, taken as a whole, the 2000 season for Oregon state still is weaker than just about any season under Osborne, when you factor nonconference as well as conference games. 6-5 eastern Washington, 5-7 New Mexico and 3-8 San Diego state is not murderer's row.
Are people in this thread actually arguing if Wash State or Oregon State is harder to recruit to in order to be in "last place" as far as a desirable location to play football at in the Pac 12? Seriously?
WTF does it matter if Oregon State is last or 2nd to last of desirable places to play in the Pac 12? Isnt it just about the damn same thing?
OSU had only won 8 games in a season three times in 80 years of football before Mike Riley got to Corvallis. Let that sink in for a moment before you start to tear down Riley, or down grade his accomplishments while he was there.
OSU had not won even as many as 5 games in a season for 25 years (From 1974-1999) before Mike Riley got there and won 5 games in his first year on the job.
OSU is last in the Pac 12 in facilities, and they are down the road from Oregon that has the best facilities and all the bells and whistles and $$$$.
OSU has the NCAA record of 28 consecutive losing seasons. Think about this for a moment before it sinks in. Almost 30 straight years of having a losing season in football, as an NU fan can you even fathom that?
OSU is, and has been a dumpster fire for a long long long time. It is less of a dumpster fire now and mostly because of what Mike Riley did while he was there. They are currently sitting at 2-2 with Gary Anderson, and are likely going to be "maybe" a .500 team this year, or finish under .500 this year.
WTF does it matter if Oregon State is last or 2nd to last of desirable places to play in the Pac 12? Isnt it just about the damn same thing?
OSU had only won 8 games in a season three times in 80 years of football before Mike Riley got to Corvallis. Let that sink in for a moment before you start to tear down Riley, or down grade his accomplishments while he was there.
OSU had not won even as many as 5 games in a season for 25 years (From 1974-1999) before Mike Riley got there and won 5 games in his first year on the job.
OSU is last in the Pac 12 in facilities, and they are down the road from Oregon that has the best facilities and all the bells and whistles and $$$$.
OSU has the NCAA record of 28 consecutive losing seasons. Think about this for a moment before it sinks in. Almost 30 straight years of having a losing season in football, as an NU fan can you even fathom that?
OSU is, and has been a dumpster fire for a long long long time. It is less of a dumpster fire now and mostly because of what Mike Riley did while he was there. They are currently sitting at 2-2 with Gary Anderson, and are likely going to be "maybe" a .500 team this year, or finish under .500 this year.
What's the hurry to declare a verdict? After 4 games? Really? Insane IMO.
Yeah, you just lost whatever credibility you were hanging onto with your teeth. Corvallis is such a recruiting hotbed that the program had less than 10 winning seasons IN ITS HISTORY before Mike Riley got there.
You talk about someone else losing credibility...then you state that Oregon State had 10 winning seasons IN ITS HISTORY before Riley got there...when in fact they had 41. 43 before Riley's second go around--where he actually had a winning season.
