Harbaugh & Spring break practice at IMG Academy

[BigRedPimp]

I'm enjoying watching this story play out with Harbaugh now tweeting out comments about the SEC being whiny. I'll give him props for pushing the camp envelope. Will be curious to see what NCAA does.

 

[JohnRossEwing]

He is like the Trump of College Football!

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

Good for Jim. My question is, why didn't we think of that?

 

[BigRedPimp]

Good for Jim. My question is, why didn't we think of that?

I wish NU would push the envelope more in areas like this. If we can't beat the SEC for some recruits due to distance, take the fight to their backyard. We did that with the satellite camp last year and picked up Bootle because of it.

 

[huskerssalts]

I dont like Michigan or Jim but i hate the SEC even worse, so hopefully the way the college football world views Jim as some God he wins this and opens the doors up for the whole Big 10 and other conferences to cherry pick the SEC area. This could help everyone out and i agree, i think Riley needs to push this along too, at least till the NCAA stops it to make there queens SEC happy.

 

[baseball31ne]

So you take the team on their week off of school to visit another state and practice at a private academy. Ok if this is fully legal with the rules on practice time and extra benefits for student athletes then the $EC doesn't cheat.

Sorry don't like the $EC much and the B1G can find ways to recruit the south with satellite camps and advances in technology. This is just turning college football into pro football. Just make the switch and make it official if this is legal.

 

[TruHusker]

Does this really make that much difference? Assume 10 different schoola including Nebraska do this next year, all a kid is watching are some practices. The distance from home for the kid doesnt change, I just dont see this as a game changer. Yea, it gets your brand out there but that will already have been done in the recruiting process. Still gotta get them on campus, that is where they will spend the next 4-5 years.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

Does this really make that much difference? Assume 10 different schoola including Nebraska do this next year, all a kid is watching are some practices. The distance from home for the kid doesnt change, I just dont see this as a game changer. Yea, it gets your brand out there but that will already have been done in the recruiting process. Still gotta get them on campus, that is where they will spend the next 4-5 years.

Yes, it makes a difference. Nebraska might only get a kid every other year from something like this, but maybe it is one kid we wouldn't have gotten otherwise. Nebraska is going to put in a lot more time, and some of it will have to be creative, to get access to the best talent. We can't afford to look at this stuff the same way Florida State or (insert big name school in a hotbed here) looks at it. Got to start building relationships with these kids any way you can.

 

[jlb321]

if it wasn't a big deal the SEC wouldn't be protesting

Harbaugh is also finding positions on his staff (not position coaches - but analysts etc) for high school coaches/assistants with ties to hotbed recruiting areas

Hired a former coach at Paramus High in NJ who just so happens to the high school of Rashan Gary #1 recruit in nation
looking at their commit list Michigan got a 5* four 4* and a 3* this year out of New Jersey
they also hired an assistant from Prattville Alabama - 2 recruits from Prattville this year

it is a dirty business - you don't necessarily need to cross the line but you can straddle it every once in a while
the line is also very blurry in areas giving you plausible deniability if you should get "confused" and cross it from time to time


http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2016/02/michigan_coach_jim_harbaugh_hi.html

http://www.northjersey.com/sports/c...ic-football-coach-hired-by-michigan-1.1262303

 

[dinglefritz]

So you take the team on their week off of school to visit another state and practice at a private academy. Ok if this is fully legal with the rules on practice time and extra benefits for student athletes then the $EC doesn't cheat.

Sorry don't like the $EC much and the B1G can find ways to recruit the south with satellite camps and advances in technology. This is just turning college football into pro football. Just make the switch and make it official if this is legal.

It would smell like "extra benefits" to take the team on a "spring break" practice, BUT if it isn't forbidden by the NCAA then it's a genius move. Everybody cries that the players are taken advantage of. IF you're in a cold weather state what's the difference between a spring break practice trip and a late season non-con game with Hawaii? We've done that in the past. What's the difference between that and the Hawaii or Puerto Rico winter bball tourneys?

 

[studed]

if it wasn't a big deal the SEC wouldn't be protesting

Harbaugh is also finding positions on his staff (not position coaches - but analysts etc) for high school coaches/assistants with ties to hotbed recruiting areas

Hired a former coach at Paramus High in NJ who just so happens to the high school of Rashan Gary #1 recruit in nation
looking at their commit list Michigan got a 5* four 4* and a 3* this year out of New Jersey
they also hired an assistant from Prattville Alabama - 2 recruits from Prattville this year

it is a dirty business - you don't necessarily need to cross the line but you can straddle it every once in a while
the line is also very blurry in areas giving you plausible deniability if you should get "confused" and cross it from time to time


http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2016/02/michigan_coach_jim_harbaugh_hi.html

http://www.northjersey.com/sports/c...ic-football-coach-hired-by-michigan-1.1262303

looks like msu might do it now also. all b10 teams should do it

 

[Redblood23]

If Indiana did this no one in the SEC would care. They know other than Alabama no other team in the SEC has a bigger brand than Michigan. The SEC is full of shit with their arguments concerning satellite camps and spring practices. I have to admit I kinda like seeing them shake in their boots a little. I hope Michigan wins this..

 

[BigRedPimp]

Riley should do this in Cali. Are you the wolf or the sheep?

 

[northeastNebraska]

Would love to see Nebraska do this in Cali.

 

[HuskerTimOmaha]

Harbaugh now tweeting out comments about the SEC being whiny.

Harbaugh gonna Harbaugh...

 

[SilentCommit]

Northern schools are right to innovate this way, just as SEC schools should try to protect their advantage. Lost in the discussion is that, for the life of me, I can't think how exposure to Northern schools will do anything but help and/or create new opportunities for athletes. Why not do what's best for the high schoolers?

 

[BigRedPimp]

Northern schools are right to innovate this way, just as SEC schools should try to protect their advantage. Lost in the discussion is that, for the life of me, I can't think how exposure to Northern schools will do anything but help and/or create new opportunities for athletes. Why not do what's best for the high schoolers?

Actually, this is a brewing key topic that could spin out of this situation. SEC is trying to protect their turf as they have little to gain if they wanted to do this up North. Conversely, Northern schools have a lot to gain. This is significant enough of a change that both the SEC and ACC are against this new trend.

One would think the NCAA would want to provide every opportunity for new student athletes. One could argue this will be another example of the haves and have nots on could afford to do this. Will be interesting if other schools jump on this if the NCAA wants to shut the door on it.

 

[candid]

So you take the team on their week off of school to visit another state and practice at a private academy. Ok if this is fully legal with the rules on practice time and extra benefits for student athletes then the $EC doesn't cheat.

Sorry don't like the $EC much and the B1G can find ways to recruit the south with satellite camps and advances in technology. This is just turning college football into pro football. Just make the switch and make it official if this is legal.

This is legal, no specified time for spring practice, the ? is, does it cause probs for some colleges that can't afford the travel expenses. The time is the reason the SEC is going to the ncaa, says it cuts into players down time, really means they don't want a northern team down their in their country. They are flying commercial but it will cost $19.99 for tickets, equipment freight, etc.

 

[BornNBredRed]

Good for Jim. My question is, why didn't we think of that?

Because it probably costs the University a million dollars to do. That is a huge benefit that only a few schools can afford to provide. This is ridiculous. If the top 5 teams start going to spring camps rotating between Florida, Texas and California, that will only make the separation more between the top haves and have nots even larger. How does this work with the 20 hour a week rule? Is this during Spring Break, so they miss no school? Lastly, will Harbaugh be sleeping with the players, like he does the recruits?

 

[Nebraska Fan]

how many secondary violations can you get in one week lol. You can't give anything they would not receive on campus or tour away from campus or souvenirs. You can bet the SEC will turn over every violation and the list could be quite long.

 

[klemman]

Does this really make that much difference? Assume 10 different schoola including Nebraska do this next year, all a kid is watching are some practices. The distance from home for the kid doesnt change, I just dont see this as a game changer. Yea, it gets your brand out there but that will already have been done in the recruiting process. Still gotta get them on campus, that is where they will spend the next 4-5 years.

One of the things that has changed in recruiting over the years is the impact of unofficial visits. The problem of course is that kids down south from families with less economic resources can't afford to make unofficial visits northward. Bit they may be able to get first person experiences with the coaches, players, and programs by visiting one of these satellite practices or camps.

 

[HuskerO]

I can't think how exposure to Northern schools will do anything but help and/or create new opportunities for athletes. Why not do what's best for the high schoolers?

I believe the benefit is that it gives the high schools the chance to see another school for free that they may normally be able to because of the cost.

I'd ask the question; how would this hurt any high schooler? If there's no harm done to high schoolers and no unfair advantage then what's the problem?

 

[jlb321]

"Jim Harbaugh racked up nearly $136,000 in recruiting travel expenses over a 12-day period during his first month as Michigan's coach, according to records obtained by USA Today Sports."

Story on ESPN

 

[candid]

Because it probably costs the University a million dollars to do. That is a huge benefit that only a few schools can afford to provide. This is ridiculous. If the top 5 teams start going to spring camps rotating between Florida, Texas and California, that will only make the separation more between the top haves and have nots even larger. How does this work with the 20 hour a week rule? Is this during Spring Break, so they miss no school? Lastly, will Harbaugh be sleeping with the players, like he does the recruits?

The rules of spring pratice places no restrictions on location and JH says the rest of the rules will be followed as if they were in AA. The sec is talking about use of free time, etc. Let's face it, they just don't want northern teams down there. IMG, apparently, is some type of private hs for gifted athletes and that bothers them no end and prob has most of the facilities that a college team needs for a week. Would be interesting what the total costs of trans, IMG facility rental, room & board, etc. ends up costing. This could be a prob for some colleges but I'm thinking, other than RU, most Big 10 schools can foot the bill if they so choose.