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I'm not in a party. I'm hoping Trump means well because so far he's taking good actions for OUR country.

I don't care about the cost of phones. Be nice to go back to the days when people weren't glued to them. I do however care about human rights and what they do over there is beyond inhumane.
I have seen your posts, you're CLEARLY in a party.

I stopped caring on 11/6/2024 and only am looking out for myself now. Wait till the farmers start getting hit, but its their fault anyway, they voted for the guy.
 
spoken like a true cult member.
Can you imagine someone like Hawkins63 that blindly follow a party based on racist ideologies. And the members they vote in get filthy rich off of people like Hawkins with shady dealings of donations and tax dollars spent to increase their net worth. So weird. Talk about being in a cult.
 
I have seen your posts, you're CLEARLY in a party.

I stopped caring on 11/6/2024 and only am looking out for myself now. Wait till the farmers start getting hit, but its their fault anyway, they voted for the guy.
Don't worry about this stuff. If life gets tough, just remember you have that sweet, imaginary investment banking job.
 
This is not a position limited to one party or another. You think people that voted for DJT are going to be fine with their next iphone that costs two grand? Oh, it's good for America? Right, that'll play. Moving all of that manufacturing back on shore is a fantasy, it will not happen.
Why is it fantasy? That should be the goal.
 
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It's funny that you just assume someone saying these moves are bad is in the "hate Trump crowd." Had you read my post you would see that I actually thought some tariffs and incentives would be a good strategy if done selectively to bring the production and research of the most advanced products of the future to the US.

The "everything will be fine" comment was pretty good.
Whats funny is they still aren't even. Why is it assumed the United States must take it up the backside on trade?
 
I work for an investment bank, I see what's going on realtime. I have moved 95% of my portfolio to FI until this stupidity is over. You just will never admit that he is a horrible business man and also wants a recession to keep wages down and then when companies need a bailout, he will dole them out as he sees fit.

But if you do have some DQ coupons I will take them.
I don't think calling a billionairre a "poor businessman" makes much sense.

I also get the sense from reading some of these posts that they think Trump was the 1st one to initiate tariffs. My understanding is that he's just trying to make them equitable or reciprocal.

Naturally countries who have been getting the better end of trade deals with the U.S. are going to grumble a bit.
 
Interest rates and inflation are killing average Americans and home buyers. The interest on our national debt is out of control and we're headed for default if we don't get it under control.. The 10 year interest rates are being driven down as we speak by the tariffs and stock market decline. This is good news for our national solvency.
That all sounds good, but they just passed a continuing resolution that didn't lower spending. It's putting money on a different credit card at this point. Rand Paul seems to be the only person in DC trying to do something.
 
spoken like a true cult member.
Not a cult member. You’re the one with the same opinion as every late night talk show host, the view, the newspapers, Hollywood, 95% of politicians, major networks, Reddit, purple haired college professor, Tesla molesters, vaccine fans, etc

You know? The extremely loud minority
 
Well that’s a no brainer.. And you don’t know how quickly the market will rebound either, but when it does you’ll wish you would have invested sometime during this dip in the market.
You don’t play around with money you’re counting on
 
I have seen your posts, you're CLEARLY in a party.

I stopped caring on 11/6/2024 and only am looking out for myself now. Wait till the farmers start getting hit, but its their fault anyway, they voted for the guy.
I'm a farmer. I'm a hundred percent behind making China play fair. They've manipulated the grain markets to their advantage for decades and now control a good chunk if not most of our meat packing industry. I can't buy a part for my tractors that doesn't say made in China on it. I've harped on this for years. Our national security demands that we bring enough manufacturing back to this country in case of a major conflict with China.

ADD: About 15 years ago China planted a rumor about cancellations of grain contracts that caused a dramatic change in the corn market. It cost me over $40,000 in a week. They've had basically unfettered access to our markets including purchase of meat processing and ag land while throwing up road blocks at every turn to us. The ridiculous wind tower and electric vehicle tax credits have made them billions of dollars on the backs of the American tax payers. Thank God somebody is willing to take the political hit to defend our national security and sovereignty
 
That all sounds good, but they just passed a continuing resolution that didn't lower spending. It's putting money on a different credit card at this point. Rand Paul seems to be the only person in DC trying to do something.
They slowed the growth of spending while buying time for DOGE to work. Did you realize that there is a giant building in DC that says "Office Of Government Accountability"? What the hell were they doing while billions if not TRILLIONS of dollars were being pissed away to unaccountable NGOs?
 
For pretty much all of us, this is the answer. nothing changes. just gotta keep doing the same. maybe if you are ultra wealthy or near retirement you react differently.
You are correct, but it pisses me off that I missed the window to sell before this "stuff" started going down. I am tech heavy and waited too long to rebalance. I'm not selling now. Gotta hope it comes back at some point. One company will not but the rest should, right?
 
I’m not far from retirement so I must admit at least my wife is concerned. I can’t figure out how to retire so I guess I’m less freaked out.
If you retire in a down market, that's what your bond fund is for. Take money out of that. You're planning on living many years after retirement so leave that money in stocks when the market is down. As long as our great nation and fabulous economy is allowed to bounce back, you will be fine.
 
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You are correct, but it pisses me off that I missed the window to sell before this "stuff" started going down. I am tech heavy and waited too long to rebalance. I'm not selling now. Gotta hope it comes back at some point. One company will not but the rest should, right?
A few years back during a large correction I said it would be possible for the Dow to drop to 17,000. Now we're in a different place but the market has been WAY over valued for several years, especially tech. It's why Buffet has been holding more cash than he ever has. At some point the panic selling over the tariffs will subside and the market will resume it's upward march BUT the baby boom is virtually all retired now. Their retirement investments helped fund the crazy levels we're at and now they're liquidating assets. I know value investing isn't sexy, but buying solid stocks who make stuff that consumers have to have while paying dividends has always been a good strategy.

I'm not sure where this thing bottoms, but be ready for turn around Tuesday. Steep downturns in markets often last 3 days, followed by a bounce or leveling off. The market was overvalued. This is a needed correction being used for political purposes which is making it worse. Once values reach a more reasonable level, things will stabilize. People need to understand that over time the market returns 7-8%. With every "crash" we've had, if you left your money in the market and continued to dollar cost average, when it was all over, you made money. Buying individual stocks is a crap shoot for most investors. IF you can't pay attention to it virtually every waking moment, you're doomed at some point to lose your butt on an individual stock. High returns almost always mean high risk. Stock is just paper.
 
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If you’re not far from retirement the stock market probably isn’t the best place for your money
Disagree. You need your money to continue to grow and outpace inflation. Keep it invested. Just make sure you also have bonds, CDs and other more stable assets to draw upon.
 
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No party affiliation here. I agree with some of both sides I’ve read. The tariff rollout has been pretty brash, but I hold out hope that there’s a strategy with that. I will say the chart he held up was extremely misleading at best with the way he equated trade deficit with “tariffs they charge the US”. Seems exactly like something CNN would do.

It is very wishy washy right now and impossible for companies to plan. To my knowledge there hasn’t been a relatively high number of big US factory builds or plans before this announcement, so I can only assume this is either a quick, buyable dip that will see these tariffs reversed soon, or tanking the global economy for multiple years while we maybe build out the necessary infrastructure

I’ve heard Nvidia, Intel, Qualcomm, TSMC , maybe Hyundai plans to open chip factories/foundries in the states but not much else. I’m not really in the loop on all of it. If anyone has a list of new factory opening plans and can point to it being a major increase over year’s past that would be valuable.

As a chart observer in the market, this seems like normal timing for this pullback after an inflationary overheating of buying. I will DCA in soon and if we are still hitting lows in 2 years I am jumping in with fist fulls of cash
 
That all sounds good, but they just passed a continuing resolution that didn't lower spending. It's putting money on a different credit card at this point. Rand Paul seems to be the only person in DC trying to do something.
Spot on. I'm all for balancing the budget, but spending will go up each of the next four years. Kudos to Rand Paul for having a differing opinion and having the courage to actually state it out loud. Imagine that.
 
It's crazy to me that people argue about markets from a political viewpoint of rooting for their guy or never admitting that it's bad. Have fun gaslighting yourself. From a straight financial perspective I'm damn glad that retirement is 15 years away.
What I like about the markets is that it is similar to sports in that it's immune from media manipulation and general dumbassery. Every day there are winners and losers. The wisdom of the crowd (or the billionaires) determines the outcome each day.
 
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Riiight. I've seen your posts over the last year and they don't come across as being written by someone in high finance. Having a menial job at the regional bank in Bovine, IA doesn't make you an investment banker.
I take offense to this post. Bovine Iowa has a lot of great things going for it including a killer ice cream shop.
 
I work for an investment bank, I see what's going on realtime. I have moved 95% of my portfolio to FI until this stupidity is over. You just will never admit that he is a horrible business man and also wants a recession to keep wages down and then when companies need a bailout, he will dole them out as he sees fit.

But if you do have some DQ coupons I will take them.

A look at the "investment bank" he works for.

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Between the peak in mid-February and now the S&P is down 855. Between January 1, 2022 and October 14, 2022 the S&P went down 1181. It happens.
 
They slowed the growth of spending while buying time for DOGE to work. Did you realize that there is a giant building in DC that says "Office Of Government Accountability"? What the hell were they doing while billions if not TRILLIONS of dollars were being pissed away to unaccountable NGOs?
Spending is at FY24 levels. If that makes you happy, great, but doge isn't saving money. They are shuffling money. Saving money would be actually reducing spending. We'll see if that happens for FY26.
 
Spending is at FY24 levels. If that makes you happy, great, but doge isn't saving money. They are shuffling money. Saving money would be actually reducing spending. We'll see if that happens for FY26.
No their exposing the money that has been spent shiting away on wasteful government.
 
Start crunching the math on what Buffet can buy with his $300 billion in cash. It's pretty crazy. Then think about another down week or 2.
 
Are you a lot with this ?
I’m more concerned how the government is spending our money on
 
No their exposing the money that has been spent shiting away on wasteful government.
Let's say you have massive credit card debt. You take over the finances and discover your wife has been buying a $8 latte every workday morning. You put a stop to that and instead spend the $40 a week on ammunition for shooting with the boys from work. Did you reduce spending? Did you help your debt situation?
 
Let's say you have massive credit card debt. You take over the finances and discover your wife has been buying a $8 latte every workday morning. You put a stop to that and instead spend the $40 a week on ammunition for shooting with the boys from work. Did you reduce spending? Did you help your debt situation?
This has nothing to do with the other.
I don’t give a Fvck what you and your wife spend your money on, but I do when it comes to to the Government and so should YOU.
 
This has nothing to do with the other.
I don’t give a Fvck what you and your wife spend your money on, but I do when it comes to to the Government and so should YOU.
Yeah, like the cost to send the president to a NASCAR race and a college football championship game. You know, the important stuff. That was several million down the crapper.
 
Disagree. You need your money to continue to grow and outpace inflation. Keep it invested. Just make sure you also have bonds, CDs and other more stable assets to draw upon.
We’re saying the same thing. If your money is in the market now, don’t sell low.
If you’re going to need it soon, it shouldn’t have all been in the market.
Before I retired we moved the money we needed to live on to safe places and kept the extra in the market.
 
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We’re saying the same thing. If your money is in the market now, don’t sell low.
If you’re going to need it soon, it shouldn’t have all been in the market.
Before I retired we moved the money we needed to live on to safe places and kept the extra in the market.
OK fine. But when you say if you need the money "it shouldn't have been in the market" most people will misinterpret that. There's a lot of folks who have the mindset that investing in the stock market ends the day that they retire and nothing could be further from the truth.
 
Nobody cares what you people say anymore. You’ve been wrong about everything since 2016. Everything will be fine. We need to not be at a trade deficit with the world. It’s a rather simple maneuver that will correct itself quickly, and if countries decide not to bargain, they can lose out.

What we now know is the hate Trump crowd wants us to operate in perpetual debt, so it’s convenient for them. And also, they’re cool with countries violating human rights as long as it keeps their cell phones affordable.


And fyi, I don’t give a shit if you read this or not. I could write your stupid ass reply for you
‘We need to not be at a trade deficit with the world’ haha oh my
 
They slowed the growth of spending while buying time for DOGE to work. Did you realize that there is a giant building in DC that says "Office Of Government Accountability"? What the hell were they doing while billions if not TRILLIONS of dollars were being pissed away to unaccountable NGOs?
Seems to me that Doge is only hitting politically favorable targets from one particular point of view. If they were serious about solving a problem, they would look at balancing the budget and reducing the national debt. And who in the hell that is in debt only attacks their debt by reducing spending? Politicians! That's who. Dave Ramsey says, you need a bigger shovel to dig yourself out of debt- that means increasing income. Still waiting for an actual leader, not a politician, to make that happen.
 
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Spot on. I'm all for balancing the budget, but spending will go up each of the next four years. Kudos to Rand Paul for having a differing opinion and having the courage to actually state it out loud. Imagine that.
Rand Paul is also in favor of budget busting tax cuts for rich people. So no, I don’t really think he gives a shit about the deficit in the debt.
 
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