Except that frost said that he had gotten everybody on the same page when he came to Nebraska, including the administration, athletic Director, etc. Moos was an absentee AD a lot. Like Trev or not, no way could he have left Frost to his own devices with the W-L record.
Frost takes shot at Trev at his PC
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Yeah Moos was an old school AD and honestly that is what most coaches would want. BUT the coach needs to do his part and win.
I can't give 2 shits about he said whosey what said she said! Enough! This asshole is already hired at UCF again. We should channel our energy in getting behind Raiola and Rhule
Par for course with Mr Frost. Which is why it is so easy to not like him the coach. I'm on record as liking Frost the player and hating Frost the coach. Unlike most I CAN separate the two. That small paragraph alone just shows why I hate him as a coach....geessh
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Devaney knew how to assemble a very high quality staff, was an excellent recruiter and a big time motivator on game day and when the game was on the line. Frost did none of those things. That why he isn't around.
Again, it's just a feeling I have, but I believe most coaches could have had that same record 13-0 at UCF that Frost got all the credit for. Frost caught lightning in a bottle with the 34-27 win over Auburn in the Peach Bowl, the UCF Knights confirmed their status as the only undefeated team in that season of college football, improving to 13-0 in head coach Scott Frost’s final game before leaving for Nebraska.
Frost was fooling himself and the fans of Nebraska when he proclaimed the BIG would have to adjust to Nebraska instead it proved Nebraska needed to adjust to the BIG. The 13-0 UCF team was a very good team, but I believe it had very little to do with Frosts talents as a HC. I will say Scott Frost does have a very good recruiting area to pull from, but he does have his past record at Nebraska he will have to explain to recruits and parents which will not be easy.
What I took from it was what he said after that. "You look at the tape from last year...and a couple of plays go different, you're talking about UCF winning 7-8 games last year."
Yeah, Scott. You know how to win close games. 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah, Scott. You know how to win close games. 🤣🤣🤣
Hah! “If a few plays go different, UCF wins 7-8 games last year”
Translation: We’re close
Translation: We’re close
I think a lot of people missed it. Trev was very bad when it came to putting focus on NIL. And yes NIL kicked in under Trev. Trevs focus was on pouring concrete and getting contributions to do so. That doesn’t matter as much in today’s recruiting vs what NIL does. And when the coaches are recruiting and the players want to talk NIL and all you got is “well we are building a new…” you’ve already lost them.
And yes boosters only have so much to contribute and when the AD has a full court press on donations for build-out it’s hard to get NIL money.
Tony D might not like NIL but he’s all in on it. He understands the need. Trev never did or didn’t want to or had kickbacks from big construction companies. I don’t know why.
Now would have Scott been successful with more NIL? I don’t think so. He lacked work ethic here.
And yes boosters only have so much to contribute and when the AD has a full court press on donations for build-out it’s hard to get NIL money.
Tony D might not like NIL but he’s all in on it. He understands the need. Trev never did or didn’t want to or had kickbacks from big construction companies. I don’t know why.
Now would have Scott been successful with more NIL? I don’t think so. He lacked work ethic here.
I don’t know. I think on the team Frost won the Natty - and all of the talent - several Neb QBs could have won Nattys with that talent that year:
Crouch
Gill
Gdowski
S Taylor
Z Taylor
I’d even say Keithen McCant
Was he a good QB? Yes. But he had an elite RB, and an elite OL and unlike some of the other guys I mentioned - elite defensive talent. The DL alone. J Peter and G Wistrom were both first rounders. Scott ran the offense well but I’d take most of the guys I mentioned in this post before Frost. And none of them have a Natty.
I'm not sure I necessarily disagree with you. I am not debating his talent level. Just the fact that I liked him as a player.
If I'm being honest though I think I know more about him as a coach than I ever did as a player so maybe that has a lot to do with my feelings.
That said I'm not gonna poo poo his accomplishments in 97. He improved a lot from 96- 97. He was a perfect fit in that offense. Though he was less dynamic than most of the guys on your list his toughness stuck out like a sore thumb to me. That dude played football and ran the option with a fullback mentality. He punished those safeties and DBs who had to tackle him. I think his style was very different than any on that list so it's a hard comparison. Especially with a guy like Zak Taylor.
Crazy thing about it is If I'm not mistaken Frost actually had a 1000 yards rushing and passing that year but only finished as 3rd team all conference behind Corby Jones from Mizzu and I wanna say Michael Bishop at KSU (could be wrong). Anyways I can appreciate how well he played that year and still hold him in high regard for that. Yet hate what he did to the university as a coach more than any coach since I've watched . He was that bad to me.
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For a guy whose game featured toughness, that didn’t translate to his coaching. Rhule’s NU teams are tougher.
Who knows, it seemed at the time like part of the lightning in a bottle there was (very ironically) the culture and personality Frost brought to the team, along with obviously the great offense. I still remember watching those behind the scenes videos of UCF in 2017, before every team had them, and thinking "holy crap Frost could be the guy to finally modernize Nebraska football, he has such a fresh approach, these guys all love him, they're working hard and having an absolute blast."
For whatever reason, we did not get that guy. I'm sure there could be a fascinating psychological case study done on him haha, but clearly a ton of factors led him to being a completely different guy at UCF than he was "back home" at NU.
That offense worked great against the tissue thin Ds in the AAC, and he pulled a rabbit out of a hat against Auburn. I think he had a QB to make things work at NU, but for the most part, the rest of the offense wasn’t B1G ready. And the level of general execution was awful. Frost spoke about adding power running to the mix, but nothing like that materialized.
