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Fred should be fired today

Completely ignoring St John’s history of success in basketball isn’t logical. Do you think Pitino would have ever considered taking a job at NU? I don’t.
Where did I say Pitino would have taken the Nebraska job?

My point is that Pitino took over a program that had not accomplished a damn thing in a quarter of a century and turned it around almost immediately. No excuse-making or setting of lowball expectations needed.
 
I know I am chiming in really late on this thread, but I really do think that Fred is close to getting this thing to the next level. I think the last two or three misses at the point guard position has really hurt with Woster, Ulis and Coleman. Don't know why they didn't have success, but any one of his 4 or 5 previous point guards could have guided this team to a tourney bid easily. (Cam Mack, Dalano Banton, Alonzo Verge or Sam Griesel) I would even throw in Trey McGowens or Kobe Webster could have handled the point like Lawrence did last year.

Now he is in that shitty position of having to replace a whole lot of points and get a lot more athletic. Hopefully Mast stick around to give him at least a little bit of something to build around. I do think Essegian will get better, but he needs to get this team a whole lot more athletic to be able to defend.
In hindsight I think Lawrence and Allick were the most important missing pieces from last year. The athleticism we lost from those two was not replaced. I hope Fred can address that in next year's roster.
 
In hindsight I think Lawrence and Allick were the most important missing pieces from last year. The athleticism we lost from those two was not replaced. I hope Fred can address that in next year's roster.
And mast. Then throw in keyce on 3s and Hoiberg off the bench they were gritty because they were all role players
 
erWhere did I say Pitino would have taken the Nebraska job?

My point is that Pitino took over a program that had not accomplished a damn thing in a quarter of a century and turned it around almost immediately. No excuse-making or setting of lowball expectations needed.
It's apples to oranges. St John's has in fact had basketball success in the past. I don't think it's making excuses for Fred to point out that we've never had much success nationally in basketball whereas St. John's and Pitino both have. I'm not sure what you hope to gain by this exercise. We're pot committed to Fred for at least one if not two years. If at some point our AD decides to change horses that's fine but until that time I'm not going to call for Fred's head.
 
Completely ignoring St John’s history of success in basketball isn’t logical. Do you think Pitino would have ever considered taking a job at NU? I don’t.
Based on recent interviews, Pitino said he would have taken the first power conference job he got offered. After everything that what happened at Louisville, he didn’t think he’d ever get another chance.
 
Based on recent interviews, Pitino said he would have taken the first power conference job he got offered. After everything that what happened at Louisville, he didn’t think he’d ever get another chance.
I'll take your word for it. Well then unfortunately for us, we didn't have a coaching opening and Fred was just B1G coach of the year last year. Timing is everything in life.
 
In hindsight I think Lawrence and Allick were the most important missing pieces from last year. The athleticism we lost from those two was not replaced. I hope Fred can address that in next year's roster.
there is no doubt that we miss Allick's and Kesei's attitudes. Those guys played their balls off.
 
He took the Iona job because it was the only one offered to him. You think he was pining to coach at powerhouse Iona?
Maybe Creighton would have hired him with his baggage. He needed a rehab stint somewhere. It's not surprising that a Catholic university hired him I guess.
 
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