Fixed Playoffs (Sounds like issues with ticket prices for Championship)

[saluno22]

In reading some stuff online, it appears Delany is already thinking that the one division format is viable. I hope it happens. Then they could go to more equitable or random rotation.

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[saluno22]

Since selection criteria is really what we should be looking at (rather than eventual champions like I entered in Post 31), here is the field composition at the difference NCAA competition levels from 2011 (the earliest brackets I could find with records; I wasn't going to scrape through Wikipedia to go farther back) to present in terms of losses entering the playoff ...

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FCS: Currently 125 teams, 24 playoff spots (19.2%)

Summary
1 loss or less: 18.0% of field on average
3 losses or more: 54.9% of field on average
5 losses or more: 4.4% of field on average
In the period examined, twice a single 6-loss team has qualified (2017 Lehigh (5-6) and 2013 Lafayette (5-6)).
In the period examined, there has never been more than one undefeated team and twice there have been zero undefeated teams entering the playoffs (2014 and 2012).
Some of these numbers are likely skewed by playing FBS teams.

2018
Field Size: 24
0 losses: 1
1 loss: 2
2 losses: 5
3 losses: 8
4 losses: 7
5 losses: 1
6 losses: 0
Playoff Champion: NDSU (would be 15-0; CC) or Eastern Washington (would be 13-2; CC [lost to Wazzu])

2017
Field Size: 24
0 losses: 1
1 loss: 5
2 losses: 7
3 losses: 5
4 losses: 5
5 losses: 0
6 losses: 1
Playoff Champion: NDSU (14-1; CC)

2016
Field Size: 24
0 losses: 1
1 loss: 6
2 losses: 4
3 losses: 7
4 losses: 5
5 losses: 1
6 losses: 0
Playoff Champion: James Madison (14-1; CC [lost to North Carolina])

2015
Field Size: 24
0 losses: 1
1 loss: 2
2 losses: 7
3 losses: 8
4 losses: 5
5 losses: 1
6 losses: 0
Playoff Champion: NDSU (13-2; co-CC with Illinois State)

2014
Field Size: 24
0 losses: 0
1 loss: 5
2 losses: 5
3 losses: 4
4 losses: 8
5 losses: 2
6 losses: 0
Playoff Champion: NDSU (15-1; co-CC with Illinois State [beat Iowa State])


2013
Field Size: 24
0 losses: 1
1 loss: 2
2 losses: 10
3 losses: 4
4 losses: 5
5 losses: 1
6 losses: 1
Playoff Champion: NDSU (15-0; CC [beat Kansas State])


2012
Field Size: 20
0 losses: 0
1 loss: 3
2 losses: 5
3 losses: 10
4 losses: 2
5 losses: 0
6 losses: 0
Playoff Champion: NDSU (14-1; CC [beat Colorado State])

2011
Field Size: 20
0 losses: 1
1 loss: 2
2 losses: 7
3 losses: 8
4 losses: 2
5 losses: 0
6 losses: 0
Playoff Champion: NDSU (14-1; co-CC with Northern Iowa [beat Minnesota])

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DIVISION II: Currently 173 teams, 28 playoff spots (16.2%)

Summary
1 loss or less: 56.8% of field on average
3 losses or more: 9.2% of field on average
Only 1 time in the period examined has a team with 4 or more losses qualified (2016: North Greenville (7-4)).

2018
Field Size: 28
0 losses: 9
1 loss: 9
2 losses: 7
3 losses: 3
4 losses: 0
5 losses: 0
6 losses: 0
Playoff Champion: Valdosta State (14-0; CC)

2017
Field Size: 28
0 losses: 8
1 loss: 9
2 losses: 6
3 losses: 5
4 losses: 0
5 losses: 0
6 losses: 0
Playoff Champion: Texas A&M–Commerce (14-1; non-CC)

2016
Field Size: 28
0 losses: 6
1 loss: 9
2 losses: 12
3 losses: 0
4 losses: 1
5 losses: 0
6 losses: 0
Playoff Champion: Northwest Missouri State (15-0; CC)


2015
Field Size: 28
0 losses: 5
1 loss: 11
2 losses: 11
3 losses: 1
4 losses: 0
5 losses: 0
6 losses: 0
Playoff Champion: Northwest Missouri State (15-0; CC)

2014
Field Size: 24
0 losses: 6
1 loss: 11
2 losses: 6
3 losses: 1
4 losses: 0
5 losses: 0
6 losses: 0
Playoff Champion: CSU–Pueblo (14-1; co-CC with Colorado Mines)

2013
Field Size: 24
0 losses: 6
1 loss: 9
2 losses: 9
3 losses: 0
4 losses: 0
5 losses: 0
6 losses: 0
Playoff Champion: Northwest Missouri State (15-0; CC)

2012
Field Size: 24
0 losses: 6
1 loss: 7
2 losses: 9
3 losses: 2
4 losses: 0
5 losses: 0
6 losses: 0
Playoff Champion: Valdosta State (12-2; non-CC)


2011
Field Size: 24
0 losses: 3
1 loss: 4
2 losses: 11
3 losses: 6
4 losses: 0
5 losses: 0
6 losses: 0
Playoff Champion: Pittsburg State (13-1; CC)

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DIVISION III: Currently 250 teams, 32 playoff spots (12.8%)

Summary
1 loss or less: 70.5% of field on average
3 losses or more: 5.5% of field on average


2018
Field Size: 32
0 losses: 8
1 loss: 15
2 losses: 7
3 losses: 2
4 losses: 0
5 losses: 0
6 losses: 0
Playoff Champion: Mary Hardin–Baylor (15-0; CC)

2017
Field Size: 32
0 losses: 12
1 loss: 13
2 losses: 7
3 losses: 0
4 losses: 0
5 losses: 0
6 losses: 0
Playoff Champion: Mount Union (15-0; CC)

2016
Field Size: 32
0 losses: 9
1 loss: 17
2 losses: 5
3 losses: 1
4 losses: 0
5 losses: 0
6 losses: 0
Playoff Champion: Mary Hardin–Baylor (15-0; CC)

2015
Field Size: 32
0 losses: 10
1 loss: 13
2 losses: 8
3 losses: 0
4 losses: 1
5 losses: 0
6 losses: 0
Playoff Champion: Mount Union (15-0; CC)

2014
Field Size: 32
0 losses: 11
1 loss: 13
2 losses: 3
3 losses: 4
4 losses: 1
5 losses: 0
6 losses: 0
Playoff Champion: Wisconsin-Whitewater (15-0; CC)

2013
Field Size: 32
0 losses: 8
1 loss: 8
2 losses: 15
3 losses: 1
4 losses: 0
5 losses: 0
6 losses: 0
Playoff Champion: Wisconsin-Whitewater (15-0; CC)

2012
Field Size: 32
0 losses: 9
1 loss: 10
2 losses: 12
3 losses: 0
4 losses: 1
5 losses: 0
6 losses: 0
Playoff Champion: Mount Union (15-0; CC)


2011
Field Size: 32
0 losses: 10
1 loss: 15
2 losses: 4
3 losses: 2
4 losses: 1
5 losses: 0
6 losses: 0
Playoff Champion: Wisconsin-Whitewater (15-0; CC)

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[huskerfanatik]

While I can appreciate the efforts put in this thread, I now have a severe headache

 

[saluno22]

While I can appreciate the efforts put in this thread, I now have a severe headache

Thank you and you're welcome.

 

[Blindcheck]

If the NCAA ever takes over the playoff instead of who runs it now...I believe FBS football is the only NCAA sport that does not have a championship run by the NCAA.....you will have 10 automatic bids and then at larges from there....every other division of college football has all conference champions with automatic bids.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

If the NCAA ever takes over the playoff instead of who runs it now...I believe FBS football is the only NCAA sport that does not have a championship run by the NCAA.....you will have 10 automatic bids and then at larges from there....every other division of college football has all conference champions with automatic bids.

I am not sure that will ever happen. The other sports didn't have bowl games or their equivalents and that bureaucracy and those deep pockets to deal with.

 

[bigredhunter]

We've beaten this stuff like a dead horse, but one more time here, this is what needs to happen.

8 Team Playoff
5 Conference Champions - Each conference can decide their own parameters for their Champion.
3 At Large Bids

Playoff Committee gets to decide the 3 At-Large Bids & Seeding 1-8.

(2019 Season Scheduling)
Conference Championships - December 7th
1st RD Playoffs - December 14th - On College Campuses (high seed hosts)
Semi-Finals - December 28th
Championship - SATURDAY, January 4th.

Part of why I fell in love with College Football was that every week mattered. The regular season was the equivalent of March Madness and any team could potentially be knocked out any week.

For me, College Football is broken. Recruiting services are more efficient than ever, 4 and 5 star players win games more than coaching and development, and all the top rated recruits are going to the same few schools even if they will be 3rd/4th string or potentially cut all together.

The element of surprise has been eliminated. At this point we should tally up which ever team has the most 4-5 stars (Bama) and give them an auto entry to the title game. #2 can be decided the same way.

I mainly watched Nebraska this season. Not much incentive to watch the rest of the country. I won’t watch title game. No way in hell you’d convince me to buy a ticket even if the game was played in my own town.

 

[NorthWillRiseAgain]

Those are two fundamentally different issues. The entertainment value of a tournament or football playoff is completely different than determining which teams should be there.

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[Tuco Salamanca]

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[husker2612]

Wouldn’t a 8 team playoff benefit teams that stockpile pure talent like Alabama and Clemson even more? Even if a UCF, Wisconsin, Washington, Etc. Win their first game, adding more games will add to the chances of injuries and general wear and tear that a team like Alabama or Clemson will just replace with another 5 star where others couldn’t.

The thing about the bowl games is it’s a one on one, one chance to see who is the better team that night. That’s why we remember the Boise State Statue of Liberty play. I think the 4-team playoff already basically killed the NY6 bowl games and turned them from the “grand-daddy of them all” to a meaningless exhibition game. Imagine 5 or 10 years ago if people would say that Georgia didn’t care about playing in the Sugar Bowl or that Ohio State squeaked a win because they weren’t motivated to play in the Rose Bowl.

Not saying that a 8 team playoff isn’t going to be fun to watch, I just don’t think it’s the slam dunk obvious best choice for college football.

Just my opinion!

I like Adam Carriker Idea. Play the bowls first then use results of bowls to help decide playoff contenders. However many that may end up being.