bone in his wrist. Sounds like he played a fair part of the game with the injury. Next up true freshman at RT. Sounds like surgery today. Way to go guys ripping on a RSFr.. Assholes.
Farniok out likely at least 4 weeks with a broken
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That sucks, wish him a speedy recovery. And he will get better as time goes on, with the right coaching, of course.
I thought Riley said he wanted to get it cast and see if he could play. I guess you have heard something I didn't?
Michael Severe said over noon that he was going to have surgery. He could have been wrong. It would never heal casting it and then trying to play with it IMO.
I hope Knevel is ready to go. Even if he is, I think I'd go ahead and pull the redshirt from Jaimes and get him a series here and there.
OK...granted there has been a TON of non-rational posting on this board since Saturday; everyone is in a rush to hit post,etc. Its called venting whether it's healthy or not is debatable.
I'll state the obvious: When Conrad went out, Decker came in and did OK. It's up to both the player and the coach to get it done during the game. If Farniok couldn't go, a backup should have been inserted. That's not necessarily on the kid...not sure that inserting a backup would have helped at that point. The whole line looked more snowed than Stevie Nicks' mirror
I'll state the obvious: When Conrad went out, Decker came in and did OK. It's up to both the player and the coach to get it done during the game. If Farniok couldn't go, a backup should have been inserted. That's not necessarily on the kid...not sure that inserting a backup would have helped at that point. The whole line looked more snowed than Stevie Nicks' mirror
Sorry, I was a Mac fan well before Lindsey and Stevie joined, but you are still going to have to explain this one to me.
Not sure if the mods would appreciate me posting actual lines on a mirror, you understand now Wed?
Think Conrad slides out, Decker at center and they will try Knevel in reserve if they have to...
Up next, Gaylord maybe, but think Jaimies (sp?) comes out of red-shirt
Up next, Gaylord maybe, but think Jaimies (sp?) comes out of red-shirt
Riley mentioned in his presser that they had considered moving Conrad out. Also mentioned they needed to be careful about making themselves worse at 2 positions. Sounds like Jaimes is the next man up to me.
Unless I missed it, most posters were faulting the O-line coaching or lack thereof...not him personally. He's a youngster and should be fine in time...with solid coaching across the entire line.
Get well soon.
In my opinion, Cav should have noticed the issue. He should know his players. I feel bad for Farniok, of course he wanted to play and many guys will hide injuries to remain on the field. IMO its a coaches spot to see this. It's his job to know his players and when something is wrong. Not just hide from it.
Example, In baseball a manager monitors his pitchers. Many times when he goes to the mound and asks a pitcher "how you feeling", the pitcher respond "doing great skip, give me back the ball". And many mangers then say "no your not, your velocity has dropped, your breaking ball is hanging, and you've lost command of your pitches. Get in the dugout"
So either
A) Cav doesn't know his players
B) Cav didnt know what to do
C) Farniok deserves an Oscar for not showing he was badly hurt and his technique looked the same.
Win or lose the games with lesser guys but don't put Kids on the field that are hurt.
I could be wrong but I don't think a lot of guys play hurt when they know they are hurting their team by getting beaten badly. That's pretty selfish. I've seen a lot of people play hurt when there wasn't another reasonable option or they are still getting the job done.
Farnoik obviously wasn't getting the job done. And its sometimes hard to think (as a player), I cant do it anymore, when you have a ton of heart and your very competitive. It's your teammates and coaches job sometimes to put you in check and say "dude, your hurt. you cant play"
Also,having a kid play with a broken wrist is never a reasonable option. Even if the back-ups are awful. Some things matter more than sports. Coach Booker & both of the Willams have had to do it already.
I said in previous posts that Farniok played with heart and is just a redshirt freshmen who was put in a no win situation considering his line coach and Langsdork's play calling. He will get better once he gets a better line coach when we get a new HC.
Obviously they didn't know his wrist was broken or he wouldn't have been out there. I'm saying from Farniok's standpoint, if I'm getting beat regularly and I've got a wrist that is hurting me, I think he takes himself out. If the arm was injured during the game it must have been very late.
Edit: just rewatched the last half of the game focusing specifically on Farniok. He did not show any indications of an injury during the game. Not once did I see him grab or favor either wrist. Also, while he did get beat some, it wasn't as bad as I thought. On the last time that #15 went around him it looked like he thought Wilbon was there to help him and he wasn't. Not sure who that is on.
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I had to come back to re-read this thread and see if it was an ankle and not a wrist. Thought that would at least explain a lot. I dunno how you're supposed to play tackle with a fractured wrist. That's a lot of weight and shock to be putting down through that bone.
Is that where they still are this many years on? Two guys hurt at once and they've got to decide who should play on a bad injury rather than have somebody who can play capably (not great, just capably) as a backup?
My God was the OL a turnstile on Saturday and the absolute crickets as far as trying to bring in any JUCO guys to play OL get real loud at a time like this.
Is that where they still are this many years on? Two guys hurt at once and they've got to decide who should play on a bad injury rather than have somebody who can play capably (not great, just capably) as a backup?
My God was the OL a turnstile on Saturday and the absolute crickets as far as trying to bring in any JUCO guys to play OL get real loud at a time like this.
Thanks for the insight. I have not re-watched the game. Not sure I can stomach it yet. Ha. But I trust your input.
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I will say I do find a 4 week turn around kind of optimistic.
So is a broken wrist much quicker turn around than a dislocated wrist? David Johnson dislocated wrist and they are saying he's out until Xmas, and his injury took place before Farniok. Granted could be due to one being a ball carrier vs one not, but 4 weeks seems rather optimistic for that type of injury
So is a broken wrist much quicker turn around than a dislocated wrist? David Johnson dislocated wrist and they are saying he's out until Xmas, and his injury took place before Farniok. Granted could be due to one being a ball carrier vs one not, but 4 weeks seems rather optimistic for that type of injury
Has Knevel played more than 2-3 games in a row without injury since he got here?
I don't know which bone is fractured but according to Severe they were going to put in A pin. I'm thinking it's not a real bad deal but it just takes time to heal. Generally most long bones can heal completely in 4 weeks. Of course he probably won't be able to do much while it's healing with that hand and arm so he's going to be weak on that side. In any case I don't expect him back any time soon.
Well, as was mentioned above, Knevel is very injury prone so you can either get him a series or two now or just wait until Knevel is injured again and throw Jaimes in cold.
I don't think so and he's horrible unless he's fully 100%. Hope I'm wrong but I don't see him staying healthy enough to be much of a factor this year.
Maybe with all the adrenaline of his first start in front of the big crowd and being in a battle caused him to not even feel the break until after the game.
Growing tired of average performing linemen being allowed by Cav to play with injuries. Cav should have taken him out.
Anyone notice the backup center come in and dominate his man and then get benched right away again?
It's just weird.
Maybe a medical red shirt opportunity. I know it's hard to get the 6th year but worth a shot at this point. Especially if we drop a few more game. I'd hate them to try to rush him back and never properly heal. Not worth it.
He's got a lot of football to still play past this season.
And in a messed up way, I'm kind of relieved a little that his play on Saturday could be because of his injury.
Riley said at the presser that he had a pin put in already and that he would be available for at least limited duty on Saturday. Not sure where this 4 weeks thing came from...
