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Disturbing news I just heard

Somebody needs to get an arm around the kid. His brothers on the team need to be picking him up and slapping that suitcase out of his hand. If I'm his roommate or his best friend on that team I'm like, "No. You're not leaving. You will have to fight me before I let you walk out that door. I am not quitting on you, I know it sucks but we're in this together."

The coaches need to be talking to him AND to his family to be like, "Hey, he's really going through it right now, if he shows up at your door tell him turn your ass around and go finish what you started."

Being a college freshman can be really tough. I remember being MISERABLE by 2nd semester of my freshman year, and I didn't have anything to blame it on but my own bad grades.

Now add to that these kids are used to being stars, they don't really have much experience with the idea of facing adversity on a football field and having to bide their time and wait. Now add to that all the noise that was made around this kid in the offseason about how he looked good in practice, he might be a big contributor. They tell him he's gonna RS and he's like, "Eff it, I'm out. I didn't sacrifice all this to sit on the bench."

Maybe it's in my head, but there's something I don't like about kids enrolling in January. I feel like it's too much too soon for them. They miss out on their HS closure and time with their friends, it's a weird time to try to step on campus. Football-wise it's great to get them an extra spring, but psychologically I don't like it and I feel like a lot of them wash out.
 
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My child went to a college only a few hours away to play soccer, is playing and loves playing, but still has doubts entering sophomore year whether it is the right place - probably will right up to the time she walks across the stage to get her diploma. Social media is one of the biggest issues. They make new friends at college, but at that age, the old highschool pals are still the best pals (assuming they did have friends in high school). I went away to school, and I remember the feelings that I was missing out when I heard about my highschool buddies' get togethers - despite the fact that I was having a great time at my college. Today, these kids see snapchats, instagrams, twitter, etc. of all their old friends partying it up together somewhere else and think how much fun he/she would be having had he/she gone to school with the old buddies. Doesn't matter whether current school and new friends are good, still they miss the good times and old friends (and even friends that weren't that great of friends in high school). I have already seen several of my child's friends who went elsewhere freshman year come back to UNL or UNO this year and move into dorms or apts with high school buddies already there. Some overcome that. Some don't. Good luck to him. I hope its not to drop out of school altogether. I hope he uses his talents to get a good education paid for somewhere.
 
The.Bear.Lib said:
Somebody needs to get an arm around the kid. His brothers on the team need to be picking him up and slapping that suitcase out of his hand. If I'm his roommate or his best friend on that team I'm like, "No. You're not leaving. You will have to fight me before I let you walk out that door. I am not quitting on you, I know it sucks but we're in this together."

The coaches need to be talking to him AND to his family to be like, "Hey, he's really going through it right now, if he shows up at your door tell him turn your ass around and go finish what you started."

Being a college freshman can be really tough. I remember being MISERABLE by 2nd semester of my freshman year, and I didn't have anything to blame it on but my own bad grades.

Now add to that these kids are used to being stars, they don't really have much experience with the idea of facing adversity on a football field and having to bide their time and wait. Now add to that all the noise that was made around this kid in the offseason about how he looked good in practice, he might be a big contributor. They tell him he's gonna RS and he's like, "Eff it, I'm out. I didn't sacrifice all this to sit on the bench."

Maybe it's in my head, but there's something I don't like about kids enrolling in January. I feel like it's too much too soon for them. They miss out on their HS closure and time with their friends, it's a weird time to try to step on campus. Football-wise it's great to get them an extra spring, but psychologically I don't like it and I feel like a lot of them wash out.
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That is an interesting point about enrolling early.
 
Sometimes it just isn't right. Probably needs to take a step back and do a little thinking and a little growing up.
 
We are all over thinking this. The kid is 17, half a country away from home, and got severely homesick. End of story. No need to talk about his maturity level, what the coaches and his teammates "need to do" (as if they have not, up to now, already been talking to him), or what this means about "early enrollees". He is one recruit. A good one to be sure. But just one lonely kid. He got homesick. That is all we need to know. Time to move on.
 
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Pennsyhusker said:
We are all over thinking this. The kid is 17, half a country away from home, and got severely homesick. End of story. No need to talk about his maturity level, what the coaches and his teammates "need to do" (as if they have not, up to now, already been talking to him), or what this means about "early enrollees". He is one recruit. A good one to be sure. But just one lonely kid. He got homesick. That is all we need to know. Time to move on.
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Really, this is all that needs to be said. I appreciate this post lots Pennsy! Thanks!
 
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timnsun said:
Really, this is all that needs to be said. I appreciate this post lots Pennsy! Thanks!
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Thanks. And I mean no offense to other posters who wanted to discuss this on here. It is a chat board and we are free to discuss such things. But... as I said.... time to move on. There really is not much to see here.
 
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Pennsyhusker said:
We are all over thinking this. The kid is 17, half a country away from home, and got severely homesick. End of story. No need to talk about his maturity level, what the coaches and his teammates "need to do" (as if they have not, up to now, already been talking to him), or what this means about "early enrollees". He is one recruit. A good one to be sure. But just one lonely kid. He got homesick. That is all we need to know. Time to move on.
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So whenever a kid gets homesick we should just let him go home and try again with a different player less prone to homesickness?
 
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I can only surmise that Grim was behind Spielman. There has been very little talk of Spielman redshirting, but Langsdorf, according to one article I read, was considering redshirting Grim. That would lead me to believe that Spielman was ahead of Grim.
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I would guess they're not in quite the same role. Wonder if they're working Grimm as an X or Y and Spielman is going to be in that DPE Z role of returning kicks, playing slot and running jet. So it's not apples-to-apples, but for Grimm it still feels like, "This guy is gonna play and I'm not."
 
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He's a kid. I would hope he had discussions with the coaches and his teammates before finalizing his decision but you can't force him to stay.
 
The.Bear.Lib said:
So whenever a kid gets homesick we should just let him go home and try again with a different player less prone to homesickness?
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Who is the "we" here? Fans like you and I? What are "we" supposed to do? Convince him to stay by flooding his Twitter account with unsolicited advice? Good luck with that.
If by "we" you mean the coaches and his teammates, I suspect that they all DID try to convince him to stay, but failed.
That is why I am saying it is time to drop it and move on. The kid got homesick and decided to go home. And who knows? If he isn't pestered and badgered and hounded by fans on his way out the door, he may get home and have a change of heart.
Time to just let it go
 
The.Bear.Lib said:
I would guess they're not in quite the same role. Wonder if they're working Grimm as an X or Y and Spielman is going to be in that DPE Z role of returning kicks, playing slot and running jet. So it's not apples-to-apples, but for Grimm it still feels like, "This guy is gonna play and I'm not."
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Good points. I did not consider that
 
GeauxBigRed said:
... Yes? If the kid doesn't want to be here then he doesn't want to be here.
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Benning just ran down a list of a few noteworthy NU players (including himself) who wanted to quit or tried to quit at one time or another. I'm not saying nobody tried to get Grimm to stay, but my thing is if I'm his brother on that team, I don't let him look back and say I let him walk out the door.

I told you all about how the last staff needed to be handling marquee freshmen and everyone went, "Ahh if they don't wanna work hard and be here then eff 'em!" Now all I hear is people screaming about the lack of depth and talent at key positions.

Obviously you can't lock the kid in his room and ban him from leaving. But if you're going to walk into living rooms and tell parents that you're gonna take care of their kids, you owe it to the parents and the kids to battle them when they want to quit on a tough situation.
 
The.Bear.Lib said:
Benning just ran down a list of a few noteworthy NU players (including himself) who wanted to quit or tried to quit at one time or another. I'm not saying nobody tried to get Grimm to stay, but my thing is if I'm his brother on that team, I don't let him look back and say I let him walk out the door.

I told you all about how the last staff needed to be handling marquee freshmen and everyone went, "Ahh if they don't wanna work hard and be here then eff 'em!" Now all I hear is people screaming about the lack of depth and talent at key positions.

Obviously you can't lock the kid in his room and ban him from leaving. But if you're going to walk into living rooms and tell parents that you're gonna take care of their kids, you owe it to the parents and the kids to battle them when they want to quit on a tough situation.
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Not disagreeing in principle. But how do you know that our coaches and his teammates did not "battle" with Grim? I wager they did. And lost.
 
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Pennsyhusker said:
Who is the "we" here? Fans like you and I? What are "we" supposed to do? Convince him to stay by flooding his Twitter account with unsolicited advice? Good luck with that.
If by "we" you mean the coaches and his teammates, I suspect that they all DID try to convince him to stay, but failed.
That is why I am saying it is time to drop it and move on. The kid got homesick and decided to go home. And who knows? If he isn't pestered and badgered and hounded by fans on his way out the door, he may get home and have a change of heart.
Time to just let it go
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The coaches, players and University staff. I kinda threw a blanket over two very different groups of people. We forget to think of these guys as humans who are going through things that don't relate to running routes and catching footballs. Man, all I could think about as a freshman in college was how much I missed the girl I fell for back in high school and how I wish I had gone to school in the same state with her. Just going to bed at night with that nonsense on my mind.

"We" as fans on a message board like to jump on the "don't let the door hit you in the ass" train. As though we never quit anything or went through some hard times and then made an impulsive decision that wasn't in our best long-term interest. A player is more valuable if you can keep him around, get him developed, and help him grow into an adult who can stay tough when life gets hard.
 
"But at the end of the day, if you kind of know Derrion, you know he's a little different."

LaTef said he had reminded his son during their recent discussions that he was going to get the opportunity to play as a true freshman.

"He was like, 'Dad, I don't care.' When a guy's not comfortable, I guess a guy's not comfortable.'"

http://journalstar.com/sports/huske...cle_ec4afbb0-6a79-11e6-b19d-f31034f813b4.html

The above is what his dad said to the LJS. That's enough for me, especially the last six words of the first line.
 
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Good chance the kid had checked out mentally a while back. He came out of spring ball effectively on the two-deep, but recently Spielman was getting his reps and he possibly had fallen behind a couple of walkons for practice reps. The kid had gone through the process of separating from the team mentally. Once that is done and (very likely) he feels relief about the decision, there is little anyone can do.
 
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GBRhuskers said:
"But at the end of the day, if you kind of know Derrion, you know he's a little different."

LaTef said he had reminded his son during their recent discussions that he was going to get the opportunity to play as a true freshman.

"He was like, 'Dad, I don't care.' When a guy's not comfortable, I guess a guy's not comfortable.'"

http://journalstar.com/sports/huske...cle_ec4afbb0-6a79-11e6-b19d-f31034f813b4.html

The above is what his dad said to the LJS. That's enough for me, especially the last six words of the first line.
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Exactly. Suggesting that it's somehow the fault of the coaches or his teammates for not trying hard enough to keep him is unfair. In the end, it's his decision, and it sounds like this is not something made in haste either. He isn't the first player at any school who decided that he didn't fit in, and he won't be the last. Sometimes it just doesn't work out like you think it's going to. No shame in that for anybody. Just wish him well and move on.
 
The.Bear.Lib said:
The coaches, players and University staff. I kinda threw a blanket over two very different groups of people. We forget to think of these guys as humans who are going through things that don't relate to running routes and catching footballs. Man, all I could think about as a freshman in college was how much I missed the girl I fell for back in high school and how I wish I had gone to school in the same state with her. Just going to bed at night with that nonsense on my mind.

"We" as fans on a message board like to jump on the "don't let the door hit you in the ass" train. As though we never quit anything or went through some hard times and then made an impulsive decision that wasn't in our best long-term interest. A player is more valuable if you can keep him around, get him developed, and help him grow into an adult who can stay tough when life gets hard.
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I don't see anyone on here adopting a "don't let the door hit your ass on the way out" posture. There is a difference between hostility, indifference, and the prudence to know, simply, when to shut up (not directed at you Bear.Lib) and realize that all that could be done has been done. And kudos to Benning's dad. But parental styles are not one size fits all. All kids are different. Sounds like his dad did all he could to try and persuade his son to stay. Who are we to judge his parental decision to allow his 17 year old son to come home?
And by the way, I wonder what Benning's dad would have done if Damon had ignored his warning and come home anyway? Change the locks and shut the door in his face?
 
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I don't see anyone on here adopting a "don't let the door hit your ass on the way out" posture. There is a difference between hostility, indifference, and the prudence to know, simply, when to shut up (not directed at you Bear.Lib) and realize that all that could be done has been done. And kudos to Benning's dad. But parental styles are not one size fits all. All kids are different. Sounds like his dad did all he could to try and persuade his son to stay. Who are we to judge his parental decision to allow his 17 year old son to come home?
And by the way, I wonder what Benning's dad would have done if Damon had ignored his warning and come home anyway? Change the locks and shut the door in his face?
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Something tells me he wasn't the kind of dude whose warnings you ignored. Give it time, somebody will roll in with the "if he doesn't wanna be here then eff him"
 
The.Bear.Lib said:
Something tells me he wasn't the kind of dude whose warnings you ignored. Give it time, somebody will roll in with the "if he doesn't wanna be here then eff him"
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Nobody has said that and I don't think anybody will. He didn't take any shots at the program or the fans on the way out-there is no reason for anybody to be angry at him.
 
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Nobody has said that and I don't think anybody will. He didn't take any shots at the program or the fans on the way out-there is no reason for anybody to be angry at him.
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Does anyone actually get angry over a player that leaves, even if they do take "shots"

I know I sure don't...
 
I also read that he wanted to leave in the spring but the coaches talked him in to staying... I think it was the same article GBR quoted... He's had 6 months to change his mind, and he still decided it was time to go. The coaches tried, he tried, I'm sure even his teammates tried... In the end, he couldn't do it.

His exit has been graceful, so no hard feelings. Hope he lands on his feet.
 
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I also read that he wanted to leave in the spring but the coaches talked him in to staying... I think it was the same article GBR quoted... He's had 6 months to change his mind, and he still decided it was time to go. The coaches tried, he tried, I'm sure even his teammates tried... In the end, he couldn't do it.

His exit has been graceful, so no hard feelings. Hope he lands on his feet.
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This +1. But according to some on here, Grim leaving is a sign of fan indifference, coaching indifference, teammate indifference, and mamby-pamby, parental mollycoddling. Because it can't possibly be what it appears: a homesick 17 year old.
 
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The.Bear.Lib said:
Something tells me he wasn't the kind of dude whose warnings you ignored. Give it time, somebody will roll in with the "if he doesn't wanna be here then eff him"
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Yeah? Well nobody has as of yet, so you are attacking a straw man. First you invent a fictitious narrative out of whole cloth (Grim leaving is a sign that lots of people dropped the ball and don't care), but when you are called out on that false claim you shift gears and invent non existent angry and indifferent fans. When you get called out on that you say "just wait, it will happen".
At what point do you just admit that you are wrong?
 
Pennsyhusker said:
This +1. But according to some on here, Grim leaving is a sign of fan indifference, coaching indifference, teammate indifference, and mamby-pamby, parental mollycoddling. Because it can't possibly be what it appears: a homesick 17 year old.
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I blame Bo for setting up a culture of homesickness.
 
Grimm has stated the he Thought the offense would have 4 wides

Believed he was lied too about the direction of the offense

Kid is young, our offense will continue to change as the Qb's that can run it develop

Next year you might be able to have 4 wides heck maybe 5

This year you'll need to spend more time in the running game
 
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Pennsyhusker said:
Yeah? Well nobody has as of yet, so you are attacking a straw man. First you invent a fictitious narrative out of whole cloth (Grim leaving is a sign that lots of people dropped the ball and don't care), but when you are called out on that false claim you shift gears and invent non existent angry and indifferent fans. When you get called out on that you say "just wait, it will happen".
At what point do you just admit that you are wrong?
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Sadly, I have seen it on other sites...
 
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