Dez Fitzpatrick
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I doubt anyone really knows where he is truly leaning, but my guess is Miss State now that the coach he likes is there.
I'm hoping he just blows it off since it was a sign.
neb is on a few recruits with very interesting lack of recruiting activity from rivals given the recruits ranking and ability.
the Cali kids and Fitz ties to neb seem strangely strong for national recruits not in the area
Unless I'm missing something, the Cali kids are all on Keyshawn Johnson's 7 on 7 team, including Marquel Dismuke in this year's class.
As far as Fitzpatrick, I don't know.
It's hard for me to agree that ties to Nebraska are strangely strong when we are talking about kids that haven't even given us a verbal commitment.
69 days since our last commitment (non-kicker), 20 days to garner 10+ commitments.
69 days since our last commitment (non-kicker), 20 days to garner 10+ commitments.
dismuke hasn't taken any official visits and is surrounded by some of the best schools in the country.
fitzpatrick hasn't taken an official visit to a program equal or better than neb. they've had a lot of time to do so.
most the top kids are very busy taking visits.
these guys seemed locked in to neb. and not interested in others. just seems different for kids who aren't local.
Agree on Dismuke
Disagree on Fitz.
Who gets to decide which programs are equal to or better than Neb? Let me tell you: Fitz does.
Fitz not interested in others? He hasn't verballed, and has a visit scheduled to Syracuse. If illness was really the reason for not visiting M$U this weekend, expect it to just be postponed until closer to NSD.
Disagree on Fitz.
Who gets to decide which programs are equal to or better than Neb? Let me tell you: Fitz does.
Fitz not interested in others? He hasn't verballed, and has a visit scheduled to Syracuse. If illness was really the reason for not visiting M$U this weekend, expect it to just be postponed until closer to NSD.
The answer to that is in how the local school are recruiting right now - I can't remember at time when all 3 of Michigan, MSU and tOSU where hitting on all cylinders on the recruiting trail. tOSU is doing its thing but also with the benefit of coming off a NC. MSU is not quite on the other two's level (in terms of landing name recruits; that staff's ability in talent evaluation and development is a different story) but compared to themselves this is as great as they have ever recruited. In particular, their WR recruiting has been outstanding as the have landed four 4*s (I believe all R250) including Corley who they basically beat out every school in the country for. As far as my Wolverines we usually are top tier recruiters but the momentum we have now I think is even a bit of a surprise to our own coaches. As far as WRs we are literally going coast to coast as we've landed two 4*s from NJ and one from Cali (all R250). The only WR Michigan has landed that isn't rated higher than Fitz is a kid we didn't offer until after his senior year when he blew up (after breaking out as a senior) and got attention nationally (I would classify him as a soft verbal at this point because the offers are still coming in).
So my point is simple...adding in that ND is doing what ND does by going national...there are some good football players in the area that are being overlooked right now. Well maybe "overlooked" isn't the right word as it's not that they were unaware of them (we had Fitz on our recruiting board at one point but not as high as others)...it's more that the local schools landed guys at the top of their recruiting board
A verbal isn't much different than being high on someone's board anymore. And we are just entering the final turn of the race. Still time to close gap and finish on the podium. I really think these kids parents are the ones keeping them from committing and they want to make their commitment a big deal.(their kids who like the attention).
So, being high on someone's board is the same as getting their verbal commitment? Did not know that. Makes you wonder what all the anxiety is about.
So how high on their board do you have to be?
Top 3 or Top 5 is pretty high considering there are 120+ FBS schools. Do they all get to count him as N?
How do you know where you truly stand on someone's board?
If he tweets one thing good about you, is that good enough?
Is a gut feel from a recruiting analyst good enough to count him as N?
As long as somebody can provide an positive interpretation of some teenager's cryptic tweet, can we count him as N?
So how high on their board do you have to be?
Top 3 or Top 5 is pretty high considering there are 120+ FBS schools. Do they all get to count him as N?
How do you know where you truly stand on someone's board?
If he tweets one thing good about you, is that good enough?
Is a gut feel from a recruiting analyst good enough to count him as N?
As long as somebody can provide an positive interpretation of some teenager's cryptic tweet, can we count him as N?
I understand your frustration and anxiety, but what is the alternative? Many of the players we are in on have indicated when they will announce, and it isn't according to your timeline or mine. We have to wait for them to let the world know.
So many threads bemoaning how long since our last commit... We really have only 2 choices: either be patient and hope that these players we are in on will choose Nebraska or offer the scholies to lesser talent that we know will accept and make us feel better that our class is filling out...
Which would you prefer?
My only point of contention is that I would not act like Fitz is ours when he hasn't stuck his neck out to verbal.
The anxiety isn't really about how long since last commit. It's about less than three weeks left and we still aren't sure who 40% of our recruits will be.
The anxiety isn't really about how long since last commit. It's about less than three weeks left and we still aren't sure who 40% of our recruits will be.
I can live with not being sure as long as our coaches are pretty sure. The problem is we won't know until February.
And I hear ya about Fitz... He's hard to read right now. Hopeful he's ours but until signing day I won't hold my breath.
I may air my concerns, but you'll notice I am not calling for anyone's job or saying our coaches suck.
It's somewhat simple...if a kid verbals then shuts down his recruitment completely...as in doesn't take other coaches' calls, takes zero visits to other schools, tells his HS coach to not even entertain calls (on his behalf) from other schools, etc. then he is pretty committed. On the other hand, if a kid gives a verbal then keeps talking to other coaches, sets up visits to other schools, says things like "at the moment I'm 100% committed but I just want to make sure I made the right choice," etc. then you are just at the top of the kids board.
hopefully Fitzpatrick Jackson and the kid committing on the 20th all pull the trigger for dear ol NU. I prefer to hope we are sitting pretty good with some really good players otherwise we would be seeing the schollies handed out to the lower tier players and that hasn't started...yet at least.
I didn't do the quote thing, so it may not have been clear on what I was referring to. I was referring to the bolded part below.
You'll notice that's quite different than what you said.
If they don't end up on official visits then they really aren't serious about,those schools and there haven't been visits to major threat schools.
It's almost like they know,it's neb but just want everyone to think they are still open.
I see no action that says any of,them are looking at other schools.
Just talk.
Really surprised more schools aren't working the 2 Cali kids, and fitz more. Something fishy
Yorocco, I see in two threads at least now you are hinting at some monkey business going on... Why don't you stop beating around the bush and just say what you think is going on? Do you think the coaches are buying them off? Boosters? what are you suggesting?
Well there were a couple of cases where Stoops had kids commit to NU then pull the plug on signing day and sign with OU. That really screwed us over at linebacker in particular. Later I think it was Travis Lewis admitted that it was OU the whole time. Obviously that helped OU immensely in conference play. I think we had Corey McKewon playing where Lewis would have.
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I remember that... But I was more curious about the monkey business yorocco was suggesting we were participating in. What is he suggesting? What have our coaches or our program offered to these players to make them all of a sudden lose interest in other programs? Still waiting for his response.
My point is that some kids will commit then shut down the process. Some will commit and still look. Some will not commit but have no intention of going elsewhere they just like the attention. Or maybe their parents won't let them commit because they are not as sold as the player is. Example: I would say Fitzpatrick is more N than Alexander. Even thought Alexander is committed. We could land both or neither. We are talking about kids. They are unpredictable. Again None of them are N till signing day. So I don't think Fits is N . Even if he commits.
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