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We should hire him now....We need to beat Wisconsin and Iowa to own this division.

Fire away at me.

Edit: nevermind he may have gotten a raise at LSU...Offer him anyways.
 
He also was promoted to associate head coach. 3 year contract.
 
make him head coach. an actual top defensive mind running things, not a wannabe with suh.
 
This thread brings up a good point. Great defense comes at a price. Venables is making 1.3M. Dave Aranda (40, $1.3 million), Alabama defensive coordinator Jeremy Pruitt (42, $1 million), Florida defensive coordinator Geoff Collins (45, $1 million) and Louisville defensive coordinator Todd Grantham (50, $1.3 million).

The last number I found for Banker was 550K
 
I've always thought Grantham is extraordinarily overrated...other than maybe one year. Look at the piles and piles of high draft picks he had a Georgia, and they definitely weren't anything to be feared. Hell, Tim Beck did just fine against him twice I believe.
 
So I see all this Banker hate, which I feel is a what have you done for me lately kind of problem. Our year to year improvement was pretty big, yes we had two games where the defense played extremely tight and made some mistakes, but overall they didn't do that poorly. I got the feeling the defense knew against Iowa that Tommy shouldn't be playing and they had to play perfect, and they made mistakes from playing too tight.

I don't think Banker is a huge liability, if I'm wrong down the line I'll be the first to admit it. But for now I'd rather not carousel a group who, from an entire season view, improved because of two bad games.
 
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Agree that the defense was responsible for several wins. But we didn't get into opponents backfields effectively at all. Talent or coaching? That needs to happen. Stop them before they get started like Charlie's teams.
 
We are getting beat by Iowa and Wisconsin with the same high school plays you all got pissed at Bo about....not gonna cut this coach any slack either.

If we can't stop those plays we aren't ever beating Wisky or Iowa consistently.

This coaching staff is 0-4 against those teams .....with a blowout loss to Iowa, Really?
 
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So I see all this Banker hate, which I feel is a what have you done for me lately kind of problem. Our year to year improvement was pretty big, yes we had two games where the defense played extremely tight and made some mistakes, but overall they didn't do that poorly. I got the feeling the defense knew against Iowa that Tommy shouldn't be playing and they had to play perfect, and they made mistakes from playing too tight.

I don't think Banker is a huge liability, if I'm wrong down the line I'll be the first to admit it. But for now I'd rather not carousel a group who, from an entire season view, improved because of two bad games.

True, this was the defensive staff's 2nd season to work out to some kinks and for the most part they did. You would expect them to have a little better handle on how to attack some teams in the league and I would say barring Iowa and OSU they did. They have dropped the ppg down roughly 6 points from last season. Which is almost exactly the same as what Cosgrove did from year 1-2. Ha! Just kidding (but actually those numbers are true.)

What is more concerning to me is how the ppg for the offense really fell off from last year. That number was down about 6 ppg as well from 2015. For Nebraska going forward the offense will have to be more consistent and I would also like to see some more big plays in the next couple of years. Maybe I am use to seeing Ameer and Martinez breaking off big runs, but this offense, for me at least has been disappointing this year.
 
So I see all this Banker hate, which I feel is a what have you done for me lately kind of problem. Our year to year improvement was pretty big, yes we had two games where the defense played extremely tight and made some mistakes, but overall they didn't do that poorly. I got the feeling the defense knew against Iowa that Tommy shouldn't be playing and they had to play perfect, and they made mistakes from playing too tight.

I don't think Banker is a huge liability, if I'm wrong down the line I'll be the first to admit it. But for now I'd rather not carousel a group who, from an entire season view, improved because of two bad games.
I'm still undecided about Banker. Historically, he hasn't been a consistently strong defensive coach with numbers to back him up. I have mostly chalked that up to coaching in a high powered offensive conference (Pac 12) with a less than talented team. He did show quite a bit of improvement from last year to this year, so he gets a bit of a pass, but if in years three and four we don't get much more output from the defense, I'll be left to assume that Nebraska has a pretty mediocre defensive coordinator.

When looking at Langsdorf, I give him a bigger pass because his offense seems pretty predicated on having an accurate passer and Tommy really isn't that. While I love Tommy for what he brings in leadership and passion, not mentioning his ability to make a play out of nothing, he wasn't the right guy to see what Langsdorf's offense can do.

He also has years three and four to really show a significant leap in terms of output.

If after four years, we continue to look mostly like a 9-3 type team, either we have to come to grips with the fact that we are basically Iowa west or we have to pony up the big bucks to bring in more proven coaches.
 
We are getting beat by Iowa and Wisconsin with the same high school plays you all got pissed at Bo about....not gonna cut this coach any slack either.

If we can't stop those plays we aren't ever beating Wisky or Iowa consistently.

This coaching staff is 0-4 against those teams .....with a blowout loss to Iowa, Really?

Yea, so no one set the NCAA rushing record against us when we played Wisconsin. So, yea same plays sure.

Pelini was only 4-3 against those teams, and that record isn't 500 because we didn't play Wisconsin one of those years.

We barely lost to Wisconsin both years, and outside of the blip against Iowa this year which has a lot more to do with the lack of a healthy QB than any defensive coaching.
 
We are getting beat by Iowa and Wisconsin with the same high school plays you all got pissed at Bo about....not gonna cut this coach any slack either.

If we can't stop those plays we aren't ever beating Wisky or Iowa consistently.

This coaching staff is 0-4 against those teams .....with a blowout loss to Iowa, Really?

If there is a coach to go next, it better be Banker. He is ultimately responsible for the horrendous gap responsibility in this defense. I've seen it way too many times that our LB are way out of position. That's on the coaching staff.
 
One thing I will say about Nebraska's run fits, and in general most 4-3 teams's run fits, is that generally all DL are supposed to spill(bounce) kickout blocks to the LBs and safeties. Only reason I say this is because sometimes it might appear the LB is overscraping, but really the DL didn't take the block on correctly. I'm certainly not looking at any particular play, just stating how some fit rules work, and how mistakes can be a combination of things.

Obviously missed tackles because of pursuit angles are an entirely different issue.
 
Banker better but still deserves scrutiny. Bad games on d, even if there are less of them, are still BAD GAMES. Hoping we get better here next year. Secondary was improved vs the pass but we still stuggled to generate a consistent pass rush and keep pressure on offenses (way to passive in play calling). Replacing Gerry is gonna hurt. Excited to see new linebackers, more of the Davis twins, and some new guys (Domann, Dismuke, E Lee in the secondary).

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Gerry had an all-conference type season and will be on an NFL roster next year. That will certainly be a loss. However, what confused me was that it seemed as though Banker was hell bent on not giving up the long pass plays that stung the team so much last year - and ultimately that led to a lot of soft coverage at the line. We were told that the quarters defense was more like Michigan State's - and let me tell you, Michigan State blanketed receivers short and long, and I sure wouldn't compare this Nebraska defense to some of the more recent Michigan State ones (sans this season.)
 
Can he recruit and develop talent and make good game plans with needed adjustments on the fly. Do the kids that play defense respect him and play hard for the coaches, state, and each other?
 
Gerry had an all-conference type season and will be on an NFL roster next year. That will certainly be a loss. However, what confused me was that it seemed as though Banker was hell bent on not giving up the long pass plays that stung the team so much last year - and ultimately that led to a lot of soft coverage at the line. We were told that the quarters defense was more like Michigan State's - and let me tell you, Michigan State blanketed receivers short and long, and I sure wouldn't compare this Nebraska defense to some of the more recent Michigan State ones (sans this season.)

Michigan State is one of the very few teams that nearly always presses with their corners in their "quarters" coverage. When they don't have NFL corners or go against super receivers, there can be major issues, like much of this year. Most teams end up lining up something like 6-7 yards off a split-out WR with inside leverage when in quarters coverage.
 
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Yea, so no one set the NCAA rushing record against us when we played Wisconsin. So, yea same plays sure.

Pelini was only 4-3 against those teams, and that record isn't 500 because we didn't play Wisconsin one of those years.

We barely lost to Wisconsin both years, and outside of the blip against Iowa this year which has a lot more to do with the lack of a healthy QB than any defensive coaching.

Sorry but I have to laugh.....I don't care if we give up 2 yards the entire game if we lose..Sorry but your post is a loser's mentality...look we almost won.....sorry but that's just too funny.

Riley hasn't beat either team no matter what delusional excuse you want to give....I deal in reality...we are 0-4 against both teams.

Hell we barely beat Purdue and Illinois.....you sure you want to go there about almost.
 
Sorry but I have to laugh.....I don't care if we give up 2 yards the entire game if we lose..Sorry but your post is a losers mentality...look we almost won.....sorry but that's just too funny..
Come on, Jeans, you know HBG was responding to your claim that we lost to Wisconsin in the same way Bo lost to Wisconsin, which is patently false. He wasn't touting these losses as victories, but as a night and day difference from what you claimed in the previous post. No loser's mentality here, just correcting a silly statement made by you regarding the wisconsin losses under Riley and Bo.
 
Come on, Jeans, you know HBG was responding to your claim that we lost to Wisconsin in the same way Bo lost to Wisconsin, which is patently false. He wasn't touting these losses as victories, but as a night and day difference from what you claimed in the previous post. No loser's mentality here, just correcting a silly statement made by you regarding the wisconsin losses under Riley and Bo.
Come on, Jeans, you know HBG was responding to your claim that we lost to Wisconsin in the same way Bo lost to Wisconsin, which is patently false. He wasn't touting these losses as victories, but as a night and day difference from what you claimed in the previous post. No loser's mentality here, just correcting a silly statement made by you regarding the wisconsin losses under Riley and Bo.

Ok fair enough...but when it came to winning time...it was the same plays that beat us under Bo.

I'm just saying those are their basic plays.....if we can't stop them, we are not going to beat them consistently.....that's all I'm saying.
 
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he's not cosgrove, but do you trust him to beat the harbaughs and urbans of the world? I sure as hell don't.
 
Michigan State is one of the very few teams that nearly always presses with their corners in their "quarters" coverage. When they don't have NFL corners or go against super receivers, there can be major issues, like much of this year. Most teams end up lining up something like 6-7 yards off a split-out WR with inside leverage when in quarters coverage.

I said in a thread that was locked up that until Banker can get and trust some lockdown corners his defense won't be as effective as it could be.

Without the ability to man up on occasion or have backers that can get out on the #2 receiver or cover the flat. He is stuck playing off the ball and keeping his safeties even further off the ball than he would like.

I envision Jackson starting over Jones or Kalu next year and Dismuke playing the nickel and Ferguson ay mike. There will be a considerable upgrade in speed on the field, how that translates to being in the right place is still a question. But I am expecting more aggressive defensive calls next season.
 
I said in a thread that was locked up that until Banker can get and trust some lockdown corners his defense won't be as effective as it could be.

Without the ability to man up on occasion or have backers that can get out on the #2 receiver or cover the flat. He is stuck playing off the ball and keeping his safeties even further off the ball than he would like.

I envision Jackson starting over Jones or Kalu next year and Dismuke playing the nickel and Ferguson ay mike. There will be a considerable upgrade in speed on the field, how that translates to being in the right place is still a question. But I am expecting more aggressive defensive calls next season.
Man, all along I thought Kalu and Jones were pretty good corners. Throw in Gerry at safety, I'm not sure if we can't run the defense with those guys how often we can really run it.
 
Man, all along I thought Kalu and Jones were pretty good corners. Throw in Gerry at safety, I'm not sure if we can't run the defense with those guys how often we can really run it.

They are fine in spots. Having them press with essentially zero help all day wouldn't be pretty though IMO, especially with Nebraska's lack of pass rush, which I don't see getting a ton better next year.
 
They are fine in spots. Having them press with essentially zero help all day wouldn't be pretty though IMO, especially with Nebraska's lack of pass rush, which I don't see getting a ton better next year.
I thought people were concerned about Jones leaping to the NFL.
 
Man, all along I thought Kalu and Jones were pretty good corners. Throw in Gerry at safety, I'm not sure if we can't run the defense with those guys how often we can really run it.

They were fine when they played 8 -10 off the ball and had a 3 under zone with the LBs. Which led to less big pass plays but a worse run defense. Pick your poison.
 
Man, all along I thought Kalu and Jones were pretty good corners. Throw in Gerry at safety, I'm not sure if we can't run the defense with those guys how often we can really run it.

I've thought for a long time that both Jones and Kalu are less athletically gifted than even our more recent corners like Baptiste, Rose, or Mitchell, let alone Dennard or Amukamara.
 
Now to throw a wrench in the whole thing. I have heard rumors of a switch to a 30 front. If you look at recruiting you could see where that could be true. Nebraska is recruiting more LB and less DL. The kid Watts from Texas is a 300 lb that looks like an ideal build for a NT. The OLB that have been recruited are long and about 225 to 230 that could rush the passer.

Play a cover 6 in the backend. Which is similar to a cover 4 except the weak side corner plays the flat, while the weak side outside backer blitzes. The FS plays deep half, SS and strong corner play quarters.

Just a thought.
 
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make him head coach. an actual top defensive mind running things, not a wannabe with suh.
Don't let your hatred for BO blind you to the fact that SUH greatly improved under BO's instruction. Or, perhaps you think SUH made himself? What seems to be a consistent theme here is that BO gets blamed for all the bad things and anything good happened in spite of him. Sorry, can't have it both ways.

I've never met anyone who is not a mixture of successes & failures/strengths & shortcomings.

And as an aside, BO's been gone for 2 seasons now. The best thing about that is come year 4, BO is off the hook and perhaps your focus will shift to Riley's strengths & weaknesses.
 
Don't let your hatred for BO blind you to the fact that SUH greatly improved under BO's instruction. Or, perhaps you think SUH made himself? What seems to be a consistent theme here is that BO gets blamed for all the bad things and anything good happened in spite of him. Sorry, can't have it both ways.

I've never met anyone who is not a mixture of successes & failures/strengths & shortcomings.

And as an aside, BO's been gone for 2 seasons now. The best thing about that is come year 4, BO is off the hook and perhaps your focus will shift to Riley's strengths & weaknesses.
Nah... I'm gonna blame Bo for the next decade. Even after Riley is gone, I'm gonna blame Bo.
 
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