Could be years until we get the speed to match OSU

[WestCoastCornhusker2]

OSU players in the NFL:

Player Team Position 40 time
Kendall Sheffield Atlanta Falcons Cornerback 4.26
Ted Ginn Jr. New Orleans Saints Wide Receiver 4.28
Parris Campbell Indianapolis Colts Wide Receiver 4.31
Curtis Samuel Carolina Panthers Wide Receiver 4.31
Denzel Ward Cleveland Browns Cornerback 4.32
Terry McLaurin Washington Redskins Wide Receiver 4.35
Marshon Lattimore New Orleans Saints Cornerback 4.36
Bradley Roby Houston Texans Cornerback 4.39
Eli Apple New Orleans Saints Cornerback 4.4
Devin Smith Dallas Cowboys Wide Receiver 4.41
Gareon Conley Oakland Raiders Cornerback 4.44
Ezekiel Elliott Dallas Cowboys Running Back 4.47
Malik Hooker Indianapolis Colts Safety 4.47
Vonn Bell New Orleans Saints Safety 4.51
Nate Ebner New England Patriots Safety 4.53
Malcolm Jenkins Philadelphia Eagles Safety 4.53
Noah Brown Dallas Cowboys Wide Receiver 4.55
Kurt Coleman Buffalo Bills Safety 4.55
Michael Thomas New Orleans Saints Wide Receiver 4.55
Rod Smith Tennessee Titans Running Back 4.6
Damon Webb Tennessee Titans Safety 4.62
Carlos Hyde Houston Texans Running Back 4.66
Jerome Baker Miami Dolphins Linebacker
Marcus Baugh Carolina Panthers Tight End
Michael Bennett IV Atlanta Falcons Defensive Tackle
Joey Bosa Los Angeles Chargers Defensive End
Nick Bosa San Francisco 49ers Defensive End
Taylor Decker Detroit Lions Offensive Tackle
Pat Elflein Minnesota Vikings Guard
Johnathan Hankins Oakland Raiders Defensive Tackle
Dwayne Haskins Washington Redskins Quarterback
Jeff Heuerman Denver Broncos Tight End
Cameron Heyward Pittsburgh Steelers Defensive Tackle
Jalyn Holmes Minnesota Vikings Defensive Tackle
Sam Hubbard Cincinnati Bengals Defensive End
Cameron Johnston Philadelphia Eagles Punter
Jamarco Jones Seattle Seahawks Offensive Tackle
Dre'Mont Jones Denver Broncos Defensive End
Michael Jordan Cincinnati Bengals Guard
Demetrius Knox Seattle Seahawks Guard
Darron Lee Kansas City Chiefs Linebacker
Tyquan Lewis Indianapolis Colts Defensive End
Corey Linsley Green Bay Packers Center
Raekwon McMillan Miami Dolphins Linebacker
Jake McQuaide Los Angeles Rams Long Snapper
Andrew Norwell Jacksonville Jaguars Guard
Mike Nugent New England Patriots Place kicker
Billy Price Cincinnati Bengals Center
Isaiah Prince Miami Dolphins Offensive Tackle
Ryan Shazier Pittsburgh Steelers Linebacker
John Simon New England Patriots Defensive End
Nick Vannett Pittsburgh Steelers Tight End
Adolphus Washington Miami Dolphins Defensive Tackle

 

[Dr_Alan_Grant]

OSU good. Got it.

 

[CatColumbia]

Yes.

 

[WestCoastCornhusker2]

OSU good. Got it.

Some people here that know more about football than me were convinced we would beat OSU.

 

[otismotis08]

I see you conveniently left out the 40 time for Cameron Johnston.

 

[Dr_Alan_Grant]

Some people here that know more about football than me were convinced we would beat OSU.

Pretty sure I came off as an asshat. Didn't exactly mean to be. They are certainly on another level.

I had a fools hope that we could win. Unfortunately we hadn't shown any reason we should have.

You are also absolutely right in that if we want to consistently compete for division titles with OSU, our talent needs to dramatically improve. (including speed).

 

[WHCSC]

Should just start recruiting all track guys

 

[JohnRossEwing]

Anyone know if OSU is good?

 

[WestCoastCornhusker2]

Anyone know if OSU is good?

I see you conveniently left out the 40 time for Cameron Johnston.

He's even one of the fastest punters.

For whatever it’s worth, Johnston ran a 4.92 40-yard dash, making him among the fastest punters at the event. He measured 5’11 and 194 pounds with a 31-inch arm length.

 

[Bugeater]

Some people here that know more about football than me were convinced we would beat OSU.

“What are those people, on dope?” Mr. Hand.

 

[Bugeater]

OSU players in the NFL:

Player Team Position 40 time
Kendall Sheffield Atlanta Falcons Cornerback 4.26
Ted Ginn Jr. New Orleans Saints Wide Receiver 4.28
Parris Campbell Indianapolis Colts Wide Receiver 4.31
Curtis Samuel Carolina Panthers Wide Receiver 4.31
Denzel Ward Cleveland Browns Cornerback 4.32
Terry McLaurin Washington Redskins Wide Receiver 4.35
Marshon Lattimore New Orleans Saints Cornerback 4.36
Bradley Roby Houston Texans Cornerback 4.39
Eli Apple New Orleans Saints Cornerback 4.4
Devin Smith Dallas Cowboys Wide Receiver 4.41
Gareon Conley Oakland Raiders Cornerback 4.44
Ezekiel Elliott Dallas Cowboys Running Back 4.47
Malik Hooker Indianapolis Colts Safety 4.47
Vonn Bell New Orleans Saints Safety 4.51
Nate Ebner New England Patriots Safety 4.53
Malcolm Jenkins Philadelphia Eagles Safety 4.53
Noah Brown Dallas Cowboys Wide Receiver 4.55
Kurt Coleman Buffalo Bills Safety 4.55
Michael Thomas New Orleans Saints Wide Receiver 4.55
Rod Smith Tennessee Titans Running Back 4.6
Damon Webb Tennessee Titans Safety 4.62
Carlos Hyde Houston Texans Running Back 4.66
Jerome Baker Miami Dolphins Linebacker
Marcus Baugh Carolina Panthers Tight End
Michael Bennett IV Atlanta Falcons Defensive Tackle
Joey Bosa Los Angeles Chargers Defensive End
Nick Bosa San Francisco 49ers Defensive End
Taylor Decker Detroit Lions Offensive Tackle
Pat Elflein Minnesota Vikings Guard
Johnathan Hankins Oakland Raiders Defensive Tackle
Dwayne Haskins Washington Redskins Quarterback
Jeff Heuerman Denver Broncos Tight End
Cameron Heyward Pittsburgh Steelers Defensive Tackle
Jalyn Holmes Minnesota Vikings Defensive Tackle
Sam Hubbard Cincinnati Bengals Defensive End
Cameron Johnston Philadelphia Eagles Punter
Jamarco Jones Seattle Seahawks Offensive Tackle
Dre'Mont Jones Denver Broncos Defensive End
Michael Jordan Cincinnati Bengals Guard
Demetrius Knox Seattle Seahawks Guard
Darron Lee Kansas City Chiefs Linebacker
Tyquan Lewis Indianapolis Colts Defensive End
Corey Linsley Green Bay Packers Center
Raekwon McMillan Miami Dolphins Linebacker
Jake McQuaide Los Angeles Rams Long Snapper
Andrew Norwell Jacksonville Jaguars Guard
Mike Nugent New England Patriots Place kicker
Billy Price Cincinnati Bengals Center
Isaiah Prince Miami Dolphins Offensive Tackle
Ryan Shazier Pittsburgh Steelers Linebacker
John Simon New England Patriots Defensive End
Nick Vannett Pittsburgh Steelers Tight End
Adolphus Washington Miami Dolphins Defensive Tackle

So what you’re saying is, Nebraska should offer all tOSU recruits? I’m for it.

 

[TheBeav815]

And by "could be" we mean it will be.

 

[Capiche]

As an OSU fan the big difference I see between the two programs is at the line of scrimmage. We have more athletic linemen on both sides of the ball. Give Frost another couple of years to recruit those types and I think you will see vast improvement in the quality of play.

 

[ssmill777]

As an OSU fan the big difference I see between the two programs is at the line of scrimmage. We have more athletic linemen on both sides of the ball. Give Frost another couple of years to recruit those types and I think you will see vast improvement in the quality of play.

As much as I want to believe that, there hasn't been much proof of that yet, although we have some good young talent with a lot of stars.

 

[WestCoastCornhusker2]

As much as I want to believe that, there hasn't been much proof of that yet, although we have some good young talent with a lot of stars.

I'm thinking how bad do our new young athletic lineman have to be to not able beat out these guys getting manhandled and being too slow.

 

[Sinomatic]

I agree with Capiche, years for the line is more the problem.

 

[BartonHusker]

The more Bryce Benhart’s and Turner Corcoran’s we land, the better the offensive line will get. If you have a whole line with guys of their level, you get tOSU’s line.

Heck I’m very excited about the future of Jurgens, Piper and Conn as well. Even Lynn might turn into something? Teddy Prochazka is intriguing but he is a 2021 kid and needs plenty of physical development still (luckily he has time).

Problem for the team right now, every guy I just listed are either red-shirting or not on campus yet outside of Jurgens. We will see what guys like Benhart bring very soon.

 

[WestCoastCornhusker2]

The more Bryce Benhart’s and Turner Corcoran’s we land, the better the offensive line will get. If you have a whole line with guys of their level, you get tOSU’s line.

Heck I’m very excited about the future of Jurgens, Piper and Conn as well. Even Lynn might turn into something? Teddy Prochazka is intriguing but he is a 2021 kid and needs plenty of physical development still (luckily he has time).

Problem for the team right now, every guy I just listed are either red-shirting or not on campus yet outside of Jurgens. We will see what guys like Benhart bring very soon.

What about guys are thought were very athletic for lineman like :
OL: Jimmy Fritzsche
Brant Banks
Matt Anderson
Ethan Piper
I'm not sure how athletic Corcoran and Conn are.


DL: Ty Robinson (not sure on athleticism)
Tate Wildman
Casey Rogers
Jahkeem Green
Nash Hutmacher
Blaise Gunnerson
Ben Stille has some athleticism for DT/DE.



I guess, i'm disappointed at least Wildman and Rogers can't crack the lineup on the DL, our starting DL is just not getting off blocks, if not, they're poorly coached.

 

[RedCap]

OSU players in the NFL:

Player Team Position 40 time
Kendall Sheffield Atlanta Falcons Cornerback 4.26
Ted Ginn Jr. New Orleans Saints Wide Receiver 4.28
Parris Campbell Indianapolis Colts Wide Receiver 4.31
Curtis Samuel Carolina Panthers Wide Receiver 4.31
Denzel Ward Cleveland Browns Cornerback 4.32
Terry McLaurin Washington Redskins Wide Receiver 4.35
Marshon Lattimore New Orleans Saints Cornerback 4.36
Bradley Roby Houston Texans Cornerback 4.39
Eli Apple New Orleans Saints Cornerback 4.4
Devin Smith Dallas Cowboys Wide Receiver 4.41
Gareon Conley Oakland Raiders Cornerback 4.44
Ezekiel Elliott Dallas Cowboys Running Back 4.47
Malik Hooker Indianapolis Colts Safety 4.47
Vonn Bell New Orleans Saints Safety 4.51
Nate Ebner New England Patriots Safety 4.53
Malcolm Jenkins Philadelphia Eagles Safety 4.53
Noah Brown Dallas Cowboys Wide Receiver 4.55
Kurt Coleman Buffalo Bills Safety 4.55
Michael Thomas New Orleans Saints Wide Receiver 4.55
Rod Smith Tennessee Titans Running Back 4.6
Damon Webb Tennessee Titans Safety 4.62
Carlos Hyde Houston Texans Running Back 4.66
Jerome Baker Miami Dolphins Linebacker
Marcus Baugh Carolina Panthers Tight End
Michael Bennett IV Atlanta Falcons Defensive Tackle
Joey Bosa Los Angeles Chargers Defensive End
Nick Bosa San Francisco 49ers Defensive End
Taylor Decker Detroit Lions Offensive Tackle
Pat Elflein Minnesota Vikings Guard
Johnathan Hankins Oakland Raiders Defensive Tackle
Dwayne Haskins Washington Redskins Quarterback
Jeff Heuerman Denver Broncos Tight End
Cameron Heyward Pittsburgh Steelers Defensive Tackle
Jalyn Holmes Minnesota Vikings Defensive Tackle
Sam Hubbard Cincinnati Bengals Defensive End
Cameron Johnston Philadelphia Eagles Punter
Jamarco Jones Seattle Seahawks Offensive Tackle
Dre'Mont Jones Denver Broncos Defensive End
Michael Jordan Cincinnati Bengals Guard
Demetrius Knox Seattle Seahawks Guard
Darron Lee Kansas City Chiefs Linebacker
Tyquan Lewis Indianapolis Colts Defensive End
Corey Linsley Green Bay Packers Center
Raekwon McMillan Miami Dolphins Linebacker
Jake McQuaide Los Angeles Rams Long Snapper
Andrew Norwell Jacksonville Jaguars Guard
Mike Nugent New England Patriots Place kicker
Billy Price Cincinnati Bengals Center
Isaiah Prince Miami Dolphins Offensive Tackle
Ryan Shazier Pittsburgh Steelers Linebacker
John Simon New England Patriots Defensive End
Nick Vannett Pittsburgh Steelers Tight End
Adolphus Washington Miami Dolphins Defensive Tackle

People might as well get over us EVER having the same level of talent as Ohio State. It ain't gonna happen unless Ohio State really screws up big time.

Now that doesn't mean we can't ever win. It means we have to outsmart them in coaching, scheme and/or player enthusiasm/commitment. Osborne knew he'd never have equal talent to those top programs in the middle of a hotbed for talent, so he emphasized other things.

 

[-LVhusker-]

No 40 time listed for Ryan Shazier. I doubt he’s under 25 seconds.

 

[Huskred01]

I disagree. I thought we looked faster than OSU just a few weeks ago.

 

[Dean Pope]

People might as well get over us EVER having the same level of talent as Ohio State. It ain't gonna happen unless Ohio State really screws up big time.

Now that doesn't mean we can't ever win. It means we have to outsmart them in coaching, scheme and/or player enthusiasm/commitment. Osborne knew he'd never have equal talent to those top programs in the middle of a hotbed for talent, so he emphasized other things.

It's a fool's errand to look at the method's of Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State and say "Gee we should just do that." It would be nice if more fans would realize that half the time stars do not matter. Just because Bama is winning with the can't miss four/five star guys doesn't mean we should rejoice when we sign a four star who was amazingly available late in the recruiting cycle and criticize the staff for signing anyone below four stars.

 

[wolve1972]

Yeah, speed is a big thing and OSU has a ton of it but the big difference is DEPTH. Their starting defense is going to get gutted this year by the NFL draft but anyone want to bet against next year's version being very good - especially as the year goes along.

 

[WestCoastCornhusker2]

It's a fool's errand to look at the method's of Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State and say "Gee we should just do that." It would be nice if more fans would realize that half the time stars do not matter. Just because Bama is winning with the can't miss four/five star guys doesn't mean we should rejoice when we sign a four star who was amazingly available late in the recruiting cycle and criticize the staff for signing anyone below four stars.

Isn't that what Frost is doing? He's not doing anything different with a niche